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Old 08-24-2002, 01:22 AM   #1
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Default my 2.2 motor comes monday and i just cant wait

i bought a 2.2 legacy turbo block from irvine subaru and it comes monday. i should have next day shipped it so i could stare at it. i just felt like sharing.
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Old 08-24-2002, 01:24 AM   #2
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What year is it?


Advantages?

(Probably posted before...displacement etc...) but ,, too many things to search for!


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Old 08-24-2002, 01:30 AM   #3
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Sweet how much was it with shipping?
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Old 08-24-2002, 03:30 AM   #4
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Right on dude, I love a happy ending, thanx again for the bar.

Peace, Jefe'
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Old 08-24-2002, 11:29 AM   #5
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the block is out of a 1991-1994 turbo legacy. its a 2.2 liter block and is a closed deck. with shipping and the entire gasket kit it was $1347. with out the gasket kit it was $1197.
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Old 08-24-2002, 11:45 AM   #6
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Why do you need the gasket kit?
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Old 08-24-2002, 12:51 PM   #7
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Yes, why couldn't you use your old head gaskets.
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Old 08-24-2002, 12:52 PM   #8
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Yes, why couldn't you use your old head gaskets.
Bigger cylinders + closed deck = different gasket.
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Old 08-24-2002, 12:58 PM   #9
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Sweeet dude, How much power are you looking at?
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Old 08-24-2002, 01:08 PM   #10
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um, assuming this is going in his WRX he better not be using the legacy turbo heads.

he's going to be in for a surprise if he does... they SUCK compared to WRX heads.

you need gaskets alright but I'd go for WRX head gaskets.
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Old 08-24-2002, 01:21 PM   #11
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on a similar but different subject....

Anybody know of some ripper scooby strokers. Crazy Rex hybrids, or is the 2.2L the way to go...

This might have been folk lore, but it comes from a trusted source (old school car guy). He was telling me about the dune buggy guys taking the J-spec STi EJ20TTs and carburating them with bigger turbos, running them on alchol and all kinds of crazyness. He said they were dynoing at like 700-800HP. Thats just baddass. That much HP from a little 2.0/2.2 scubadoob engine, that impresses me even though I already know the power of the Rex.

For the record the guy thought my rex was pretty gay until he realised what it was. Then he's like "whoa, thats that full blown rally car huh?, I didn't know it came in a wagon, bad ass!"
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Old 08-24-2002, 01:56 PM   #12
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Good luck! That thing is gonna be way bad ass. Will you still be running FMIC?
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Old 08-24-2002, 04:04 PM   #13
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i am running the wrx heads. extrude hone is going to extrude hone the intake manifold, heads and then port match them. irvine subaru is supplying all of the head components as well as taking care of any machine work that is necessary. my tvg will be removed and i will be running a new revised link ecu. the block will stay at 2.2 liters of displacement and be fitted with forged pistons and rods. the pistons and rods are going to be moly and tin coated along with the valve train moly coated. the turbo that will be used is going to be a t-66 ball bearing turbonetics turbo with a p trim. turbonetics stated that 700 flywheel horse needed a t66 p tirm for 700 horse or a t-66 q trim for 550 horse. i decided to go with the larger turbo, though adding lag. nitrous oxide will assist for lag.
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Old 08-24-2002, 07:21 PM   #14
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I curios why you're going to upgrade the rods to forged when it appears that they are already? You may already know but there are a couple of guys with the same setup. HOK, Imprezinator, Adamrs, and Player who's running a stroked 2.2 ->2.4. I think there's more and I don't think any of them are using WRX heads. I asked about the gaskets, because I've talked with a few people about the swap and they never mentioned the gaskets being changed. Although, I believe they're all using the EJ25 SOHC heads. Oh and what tranny do you plan on upgrading to? Good luck and this engine will be a monster.

http://www.sdsefi.com/air17.html

FWIW: I think it was Alex who mentioned there can be issues with the bearings on these motors, because they're Phase I blocks. When it's open you may want to check on that, because it would be a biotch if those failed.
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Old 08-24-2002, 08:53 PM   #15
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I want to hard core pimp my scoob. I wish I had a trust fund or something. Oh the speeds I would hit in my ZZZZZZZZ wagon.
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Old 08-24-2002, 09:04 PM   #16
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seven 881:

the factory pistons and rods in the ej22 legacy block are not nearly as strong as i need. there are many people using the same block with different heads and crankshafts. the popular ej22 block with ej25 crank is used alot. i am personally not very fond of it. i prefer the factory 2.2 crank. as far is bearings go, i am leaving irvine subarus technitians to take care of any problems. also many people are using the 2.5 heads, i am using my wrx heads because of cost and their design. i am going to use the "unbreakable mrt dogbox gearset" with a custom machined tailshaft.

the project will be completely done by january 1st 2003.
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Old 08-24-2002, 09:29 PM   #17
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Hey I have some EJ20 Legacy heads. Maybe we can work something out.
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Old 08-25-2002, 02:56 AM   #18
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i already have ej20 heads.
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Old 08-25-2002, 03:00 AM   #19
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Have fun Might want to think about SOHC EJ25 heads as I think they are the best flowing heads Subaru makes. Could be wrong though. If not, I KNOW that the EJ25 cams are larger than the EJ20 (USA-Spec) cams so you might want to think about them. You will enjoy the setup very much!

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Old 08-25-2002, 03:06 AM   #20
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PS: a couple quick points about Extrude hone.

to make things short and easy, after you get the heads back from extrude hone, make sure you use a cartridge roll (or some sand paper) to rough up the surface of the intake ports on the heads. just trust me. the extrude hone process cause a VERY smooth finish on the intake ports that doesn;t allow for very good atomization and "swirl" of the intake charge.

Although I like the concept of Extrude Hone (and by the way, they own the patent to the process so you have to get it done through them at inflated prices) A good port and polish job is a lot cheaper and every bit as effective for a forced induction setup.

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Old 08-25-2002, 03:10 AM   #21
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who can you recommend to do the head work. will i be fine with my ej20 heads even though there is a 2.5 mm difference with the diameter of the cylinder and the diameter of the head?
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Old 08-25-2002, 03:13 AM   #22
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who can you recommend to do the head work. will i be fine with my ej20 heads even though there is a 2.5 mm difference with the diameter of the cylinder and the diameter of the head?
Your heads will work fine. However, I;m not sure of the combustion chamber size of the EJ20 heads vs. the EJ22T or EJ25 heads. If the combustion chamber is smaller on your heads, it could bump the compression ratio up a bit. It would be good for you to find the combustion chamber volume of your heads vs. the combustion chamber volume of the EJ22T and ej25 heads. You don;t want to find that you are running 11.0:1 with your heads on the EJ22T block (which I seriously doubt you are). I think Kostamojen has all the specs on the cylinder head cc's but I could be wrong. I will look for it.

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Old 08-25-2002, 03:16 AM   #23
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thanks for the info. keep me posted on the sizes.
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Old 08-25-2002, 03:16 AM   #24
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Here is the page I was talking about. I have to give credit to WAC for this, not Kostamojen
http://wac.addr.com/auto/obs/turbo/ejcalcs.html

unfortunatly, I don;t see the EJ20 heads on this page but if you find the Combustion chamber cc's, you can calculate the compression ratio

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Old 08-25-2002, 03:23 AM   #25
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it gives alot of info, unfortunately he hasn't got the info on the new wrx heads.
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