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Old 12-19-2012, 03:59 PM   #576
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I think you said logs were acceptable?
Here's the baseline for my WRX. Just shifting normally... no powershifting for me.

Vehicle: 2012 Subaru WRX
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50-100MPH: 9.5 - 9.6sec

I know it's nothing impressive to you guys, but I'm interested in seeing how much of a difference stage 2 (and so on) will make with my own driving style.
I think it may be a little slow cause you're using the 91 octane map on 93 octane fuel
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:58 AM   #577
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Great time! Have any video? What numbers did it do on the dyno?

550-640 wheel HP on those passes. 660 wheel HP at 30 psi.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:05 AM   #578
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I think it may be a little slow cause you're using the 91 octane map on 93 octane fuel
I was running the 93 octane map initially, and it seemed fine... however, I monitored it for a bit and it seemed that the quality of gas is quite inconsistent between brands here. I plan on going back to the 93 map soon, and then I'll just stick to the big brand gasoline.
(I think it was the Stop and Shop 93 octane that was terrible )
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:09 AM   #579
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Suspension looking pretty darn good. good job!
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:49 AM   #580
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Vehicle: 2011 WRX
Motor: Stock---To be built this yer
Turbo: Stock
Boost:20 PSI
Transmission:Stock
Redline:7500
Upgrades: Perrin TMIC, ID1000's, Cobb intake, GS AOS, GS EBCS, Forge BPV, Invidia DP to open 3in resonated pipes.
Weight:3500
DYNO: 345/400tq
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:23 AM   #581
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That 75000 redline must be fun
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:28 AM   #582
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And 400ftlb on the stock turbo!
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:33 AM   #583
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That 75000 redline must be fun
Thinking the same thing bahaha honestly I was expecting a faster time if those numbers are anywhere near legit and if he was able to get the weight down to 3000 with the driver and passenger in there... Which is probably very optimistic haha
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:35 AM   #584
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Thinking the same thing bahaha honestly I was expecting a faster time if those numbers are anywhere near legit and if he was able to get the weight down to 3000 with the driver and passenger in there... Which is probably very optimistic haha
That's actually one of the fastest stock turbo times I've seen.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:12 PM   #585
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400wtq is definitely possible on the vf52...there are plenty of guys making higher than that with a few more lbs of boost. hell, there are guys making close to 400wtq on the later model TD04's with good fuel and an aggressive tune.


...now...keep in mind that even though they are seeing high wtq, these things fall off VERY quickly. so around town it and stoplight to stoplight, it would feel REALLY fast, but in something like 50-100mph pulls or mid-high rpm roll racing, it will feel pretty slow.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:19 PM   #586
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So are we talking e85 or c16? On a stock motor... I want to know so i can do the same!
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:20 PM   #587
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E85 will get you there...obviously, there are better fuels out there than E85 from a pump, but it will definitely get you there if you are willing to push the tune hard enough
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:52 PM   #588
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I am sorry on the weight I am not sure and it seemed to be average I suppose it is closer to 3500, the numbers are legit, the fuel is E85 and there are plenty stock 2011 turbo's making these numbers. I am not planning on the turbo or engine lasting, it is fun. I was the only person in the vehicle on a very hot and humid night.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:53 PM   #589
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Local E85 has consistently been E83-86, I test it in a controlled laboratory setting on a monthly basis.
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:04 PM   #590
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I wish e85 was more common here...
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:15 PM   #591
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it is more expensive, but it can be ordered and delivered by the barrel...just fyi...
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:27 PM   #592
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400wtq is definitely possible on the vf52...there are plenty of guys making higher than that with a few more lbs of boost. hell, there are guys making close to 400wtq on the later model TD04's with good fuel and an aggressive tune.


...now...keep in mind that even though they are seeing high wtq, these things fall off VERY quickly. so around town it and stoplight to stoplight, it would feel REALLY fast, but in something like 50-100mph pulls or mid-high rpm roll racing, it will feel pretty slow.
I made 448WTQ on my vf39 on e85 @25psi.
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:44 PM   #593
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2005 wrx sedan

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Catless invidia up and downpipe
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stock intake, inlet and tgvs
E75 not E85
Sti Mikey Tuned
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larger than stock tires 235/45r17

PPG Close ratio 5 speed. They are similar to RA's. 2 shifts 50-100

Time 6.5-6.6

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Old 12-20-2012, 05:10 PM   #594
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I made 448WTQ on my vf39 on e85 @25psi.

Thats pretty awesome tq! Your dynograph shows exactly what I was talking about with the tq falling off. I love setups like this around town and autocrossing on a really tight course where you don't really get alot of time to put down higher mph numbers, but in top end style racing and driving (50-100mph runs), this is going to be less than ideal. Notice your peak number is at about 3800rpm, and then by 4800rpm, tq has dropped almost 75 ftlbs, then by 5800rpm it has dropped about 100 more ftlbs, and then by redline you probably will have dropped another 100 ftlbs (can't tell because the run stops at like 6300rpm). So total, between 3800rpm and 6600rpm, you are seeing a total drop of 250-275 ftlbs.


I am not saying any of this to bag on your setup in any way...I myself have a TD04 2.5L so...I am just as bad if not worse off than these kind of setups, and like I said, these types of setups feel AMAZINGLY fast in day to day driving. I am more just stating this stuff for the people who don't know this already, to better help them make their decisions and parts selections.

Here is a video of a 2.5L TD04 running 91oct that made 191whp/351wtq, but notice how the curve looks on the graph...also notice that that peak number comes by 2500rpm ...


no graph on this one, but same type setup but made 237whp/391wtq...so a much more aggressive tune compared to the first video.

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Old 12-21-2012, 08:45 AM   #595
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What you guys are talking about is exactly why I want a new turbo and an engine, max boost is at 3300 rpm. The car takes off like a rocket and looses a whole lot past 80.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:30 AM   #596
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I totally agree on this. A VF (or even TD04) on E85 is incredibly fun around town. There is so much punch between 3k and 4k. But once you get up to higher speed and higher RPM it falls off hard. It all comes down to preference.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:14 AM   #597
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I could deff get it into the 6's not sure how far into the 6's though. will give another crack at it soon! need a gopro lol
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:58 AM   #598
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Thats pretty awesome tq! Your dynograph shows exactly what I was talking about with the tq falling off. I love setups like this around town and autocrossing on a really tight course where you don't really get alot of time to put down higher mph numbers, but in top end style racing and driving (50-100mph runs), this is going to be less than ideal. Notice your peak number is at about 3800rpm, and then by 4800rpm, tq has dropped almost 75 ftlbs, then by 5800rpm it has dropped about 100 more ftlbs, and then by redline you probably will have dropped another 100 ftlbs (can't tell because the run stops at like 6300rpm). So total, between 3800rpm and 6600rpm, you are seeing a total drop of 250-275 ftlbs.


I am not saying any of this to bag on your setup in any way...I myself have a TD04 2.5L so...I am just as bad if not worse off than these kind of setups, and like I said, these types of setups feel AMAZINGLY fast in day to day driving. I am more just stating this stuff for the people who don't know this already, to better help them make their decisions and parts selections.

Here is a video of a 2.5L TD04 running 91oct that made 191whp/351wtq, but notice how the curve looks on the graph...also notice that that peak number comes by 2500rpm ...

192 WHP / 351 WTQ - 2010 Subaru Forester XT - COBB Tuning Plano - YouTube

no graph on this one, but same type setup but made 237whp/391wtq...so a much more aggressive tune compared to the first video.

237 WHP/ 391 FT/LBS- 2010 Subaru Forester XT- COBB Tuning Surgeline - YouTube
That was my setup from 3 years ago LOL..you might want to look at my time now. I have one of the fastest street subaru's on the list
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:00 PM   #599
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That was my setup from 3 years ago LOL..you might want to look at my time now. I have one of the fastest street subaru's on the list
Im coming after you lol
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That was my setup from 3 years ago LOL..you might want to look at my time now. I have one of the fastest street subaru's on the list
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Im coming after you lol
I wish my speedo was working . My setup is not even close to being max out. I probably have another 70-100whp on the table. I just don't want to blow it up .
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