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Old 05-06-2012, 12:16 AM   #1
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Hey, so I have been lurking the section for a while and was wondering the possible ways to polishing a car.

To give content to my question I have a black car in need of TLC.
I start with: I do steps 1.2.4.
1-Hand Wash (turtle soap)
-Rinse
-Dry
2-Clay (Mothers Clay)
-Rinse
-Dry
3-Polish??????? (Buff?) (Corrections?)
4-Wax (Meguires NXT Wax)

I spend hours but the car does not look good especially after a few days when the wax wears, the swirls come in full force. PLEASE help me get this down and any body with recommendations for wax im all ears.

Side note: buffing how could I go about doing this without making more swirls? Is this part of the polish? What products is there to help buff (such as the attachment on drills) In need of guidance thank you guys!
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:41 AM   #2
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Check out detailer's domain in stickies section. There are great advices that will answer your questions.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:39 AM   #3
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I'm assuming you have a buffer, if not go to autogeek.net and check out their dual action polishers. I suggest you buy one of those that come with a rubbing and polishing compound to get you started (those will get the swirls out). If you try and do it with a rotary buffer (which Im assuming you already have) not knowing what you're doing I can almost guarantee you'll burn your paint. Anyways, if you have any other questions let me know I'd be glad to help...
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:21 AM   #4
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I'm assuming you have a buffer, if not go to autogeek.net and check out their dual action polishers. I suggest you buy one of those that come with a rubbing and polishing compound to get you started (those will get the swirls out). If you try and do it with a rotary buffer (which Im assuming you already have) not knowing what you're doing I can almost guarantee you'll burn your paint. Anyways, if you have any other questions let me know I'd be glad to help...
Thank you for the advice, I do have a rotary buffer and I was going to attempt this for the first time. I will not anymore considering the fact that I have no idea what I am doing and do not want to make the paint any worse.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:41 AM   #5
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If you're serious about learning how to do paint correction correctly, go to a junkyard and get a black hood or trunk, to practice on. True correction on a black car, shows how competent a detailer is, in the art of paint correction. Actually, I take that back... it's not an art. It's a craft. Artists have a vision and can execute it without any prior training. A craftsman starts by practicing, and practicing, and practicing, and continues to learn, to make their craft better than anyone else's.

With that said, I'm a Meguiar's purist, as that's essentially the only products I use.

I'd start by washing the car with water and Dawn dish soap. It will strip the wax that's on there currently, and help with the clay process. Then, claybar it while it's still wet, using Dawn (1T per 1qt water) or Optimum No-Rinse (1T per 1qt water) as your lubricant. Then, you need some sufficient lighting to find out the true condition of the paint. I prefer using two sets of 1000W halogen worklights. The sun also works. From there, you can decide if you need to use something REALLY aggressive like M105, or if M205 will be sufficient. With that, then you have a multitude of pad choices, speeds, pressure, and working times. It comes with experience. After that, wipe the whole car down with Isopropyl Alcohol, aka the "IPA wipedown." It will remove any of the oils left over by the correction process, and show the true, finished result. After that, use your wax of choice... I prefer the Meguiar's Ultimate Wax. A little goes a long way. It lasts for a solid 3-4 months, whereas NXT will barely last 2. Plus, it smells like birthday cake batter. I use Meguiar's Ultimate Quick Wax immediately afterwards, to help with dust, and to give that extra little "pop." It takes time to do all of this correctly. For paint correction only, I've had cars where I was done in 6 hours, and some that took 48 hours. It's all about how hard you're willing to work for it, and how the paint cooperates. Subaru paint is REALLY soft, and REALLY thin. It's easy to correct, but it's also easy to burn through it, if you aren't careful.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:50 AM   #6
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:35 PM   #7
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a buffer would help ALOT. you're gnna want to use meguiars swirlx and use that around the car and that should take care most of the swirl marks. if its more severe you want to use the rubbing compound. then apply polish and wax and your car should look amazing!!
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:00 PM   #8
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if you really don't want swirls, especially on black subaru paint, just go through touchless washes. I go through one by my house like once every 2 weeks and my car stays clean and swirl free. Unless you're really anal about having your car 100% spotless and 100% fee of dirt, which i am not. Just some food for thought
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