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Old 12-18-2013, 08:28 PM   #1526
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I think it's been longer than that. The S197 was a pretty significant improvement itself, the last Mustang I think qualifies as a ****box is the SN95. In any case Ford has made incredible strides with the Mustang, and it's fair now to call it a competitive car at a worldwide level.
Performance-wise, even the GT was pretty much a joke until the suspension tuning and Coyote hit, IMO. It was a V8-growling boulevard cruiser. Now it's starting to give serious sports cars fits. It's a drastic change.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:44 PM   #1527
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Well, not with you driving.
I'm planning to hit VIR again this spring. Come out, so i can embarras you show you how bad i drive.

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Here ya go.

It's gonna be a beast, methinks. Oh how far we've come from the ****box Mustang of 4 years ago.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:47 PM   #1528
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I'm planning to hit VIR again this spring. Come out, so i can embarras you show you how bad i drive.
I'm only kidding. All the respect in the world getting out there and actually doing what everyone else lies about doing on the internet.

All about smiles, not that having a bad-ass car doesn't bring smiles too.
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:35 PM   #1529
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I'm planning to hit VIR again this spring. Come out, so i can embarras you show you how bad i drive.



nice
do you know which event you are going to try to make?
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Old 12-19-2013, 01:37 AM   #1530
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I'm only kidding. All the respect in the world getting out there and actually doing what everyone else lies about doing on the internet.

All about smiles, not that having a bad-ass car doesn't bring smiles too.
I'm really not a great driver, you still need to come down. VIR is a riot as long as your brakes are up to par.

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do you know which event you are going to try to make?
No idea honestly. Zone2pca, chinmotorsports, tarheelbmw and one other i think have spring events. I have zero experience with any of them.

You planning on going?
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Old 12-19-2013, 01:35 PM   #1531
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Performance-wise, even the GT was pretty much a joke until the suspension tuning and Coyote hit, IMO. It was a V8-growling boulevard cruiser. Now it's starting to give serious sports cars fits. It's a drastic change.
From 2011 and up the Mustang GT (with Brembo package) has been the best performance/dollar bargain in the world. Randy Probst had a GT nipping at the heels of an M3 around the Streets of Willow for Motortrend.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...m3_comparison/
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:39 AM   #1532
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From 2011 and up the Mustang GT (with Brembo package) has been the best performance/dollar bargain in the world. Randy Probst had a GT nipping at the heels of an M3 around the Streets of Willow for Motortrend.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...m3_comparison/
Did you misunderstand my post?
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:32 AM   #1533
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Did you misunderstand my post?
Sounds to me like he's just agreeing with you. I know that's hard to fathom on this forum.
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:51 AM   #1534
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I dont think he realized Coyote = 2011 GT.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:11 PM   #1535
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WTF all this BMW I6 DI talk is making me miss my freakin' N54.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:18 PM   #1536
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I'm hoping they offer like $10k rebates on them before the S550's come out...

Speaking of S550's, I was looking at some shells in the body shop today and that trunk is gonna be s m all.
You do realize your're dating yourself with a Cannonball reference like that. Five more years and you'll have to get a Corvette.
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Old 12-20-2013, 11:37 PM   #1537
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Here ya go. It's gonna be a beast, methinks. Oh how far we've come from the ****box Mustang of 4 years ago.
lol at ****box.
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Old 12-21-2013, 11:46 PM   #1538
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You do realize your're dating yourself with a Cannonball reference like that. Five more years and you'll have to get a Corvette.
I'll take a C7 Corbette...
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:11 AM   #1539
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I'll take a C7 Corbette...
While the C-seben Corbette is a bery nice behicle, I still behemntly bouch for the balue the C6 and actually prefer to dribe one ober this newest bersion.
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Old 12-23-2013, 02:31 PM   #1540
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While the C-seben Corbette is a bery nice behicle, I still behemntly bouch for the balue the C6 and actually prefer to dribe one ober this newest bersion.
Ay sus, dat wan!
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Old 12-23-2013, 03:10 PM   #1541
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While the C-seben Corbette is a bery nice behicle, I still behemntly bouch for the balue the C6 and actually prefer to dribe one ober this newest bersion.
Someone done stoled your "b" key?

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Old 12-27-2013, 03:05 PM   #1542
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This is going to be on of the cars on my short list when I get a new vehicle in about a year since I am a fan of 2 door coupes.
Seems like it could be a good vehicle at a good price, much better in every way than the ugly and hard to see out of Camaro.
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Old 01-07-2014, 04:54 PM   #1543
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Default SYNC AppLink Launching with Mustang Gives Drivers Control of New Mobile App Features

Found this today on one of the new Mustang forums. Click through for the full press release.

http://www.at.ford.com/news/cn/Pages/ALMustang.aspx

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LAS VEGAS – When the all-new Ford Mustang goes on sale later this year, the next-generation SYNC® AppLink™ system will give drivers easier access to new features from many of their favorite mobile apps while on the go. The new Mustang will be the first model in North America to feature the simpler menus, enhanced voice control and other new capabilities of Ford SYNC AppLink.
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  • Simpler in-vehicle menus and controls so drivers can launch apps on their mobile device more quickly by pressing the SYNC voice button on the steering wheel and just saying the name of the app without having to say the command “Mobile applications” first
  • Apps can get access to a variety of real-time vehicle data such as speed, acceleration, odometer and location that can be used by the connected app to further customize and personalize the user experience. For example, access to the in-vehicle GPS signal can enable more precise and accurate location-based services than phone sensors
  • A more consistent user experience due to voice pass-through capability, which enables developers to use the on-device or cloud-based voice recognition systems to evaluate commands given by the driver. This means drivers can use the same set of voice commands to control the app when connected to the vehicle as they would when not connected to the vehicle
  • Notifications that can be read aloud to drivers as they come in without ever touching the phone. Best of all, alerts are available anytime a mobile device is connected to SYNC AppLink, even if the app is not currently active or the driver is listening to the radio
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Old 01-09-2014, 03:08 PM   #1544
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Despite being an IT guy/tech nut, I don't know how to feel about these systems. On one hand I love them, because they are really pretty awesome and convenient. On the other hand, smartphone advancement is just so rapid and fluid; I dislike the concept of having this kind of tech in products like cars and smart TVs that are meant to run for 6-10+ years. Even putting aside the fact the software will invariably be quickly outdated, even the hardware standards are moving quickly; USB to Thunderbolt recently in Apple's case, advancing Bluetooth and NFC standards, etc. There are potential future format source issues that will compound it too; Pandora may still exist in six years but if they switch the audio streaming format, will your otherwise capable Pandora app no longer be able to decode it since the onus is on the carmaker to provide firmware updates? In many cases the hardware standards are backwards compatible, but there are real potential issues here where someone will buy a car secondhand in six years and the nice shiny digital dash will do **** all with their new phone.

Particularly problematic where some of these modern nav systems are meant to pull data through the smartphone. It raises questions like how KBB and NADA will value used cars when half of the included onboard systems' and app features that make up a higher trim level are obsolete and nonfunctional. This is made even more poignant since a lot of cars with these systems often have an integrated dash with no DIN slot to replace them. I feel like the solution would be to have auto manufacturers make an agreement to utilize an standardized OS, beneath the shell/UI of their respective ICE systems, so some level of uniformity would exist so that at the very least the application layer software can be standardized. Good luck getting that to happen I suppose.

Maybe I'm just overthinking it.

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Old 01-09-2014, 03:31 PM   #1545
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I don't think you are over thinking it. Your points are quite valid.
BUT… I think (and hope) what we are looking at here are API's, hooks and general code modularity that will allow the software to be updated/adapted for quite some time… as long as the bluetooth standard doesn't get phased out and the apps don't grow beyond the processing power of the head unit etc. As for processing power… well often its just there to provide overhead for the code bloat/inefficiency that comes with trying to get software to market quickly. Look at game consoles for instance. Usually as the next gen consoles are coming out, the previous gen games are just starting to get fully optimized and make full use of the previous gen processing power. Point being, as long as the software is somewhat "open" and can continue to be optimize, the hardware life can get stretched fairly far. If your interface is a wireless standard and not some proprietary cable… you are even better off. Unless of course you are planning for obsolescence
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Old 01-09-2014, 05:52 PM   #1546
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Give me android head units Ford, enough of this sync garbage.
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Old 01-09-2014, 06:03 PM   #1547
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Give me android head units Ford, enough of this sync garbage.
Screw that. Give me a big dumb capacitive touch screen, amplifier, and speakers, and let my phone handle the heavy lifting.
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:46 PM   #1548
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Give me android head units Ford, enough of this sync garbage.
No.

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Screw that. Give me a big dumb capacitive touch screen, amplifier, and speakers, and let my phone handle the heavy lifting.
Yes. This is how it should be accomplished. Just let my phone output video and take in touch input from the bigger screen while doing the processing and handling apps etc.
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I think Chevy got that covered.
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:32 PM   #1550
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Sounds to me like he's just agreeing with you. I know that's hard to fathom on this forum.
Ha ha you nailed that one on the head. I just backed up his post with the motortrend reference.
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