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Old 05-09-2012, 10:01 AM   #1
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Well I'm going to finally give my car a full detail. I know what order I want to go in, but am not sure on what speeds to set the PC at.

The process I'll be using is:

-Rinse
-2-Bucket Wash
-Clay
-Polish w/Mezerna SL 1500 (I'm guessing at speeds from 5k-6k with an Orange Uber Pad)
-Polish w/Mezerna SF 4000 (I'm guessing at speeds from 3k-4k with a Green Uber Pad)
-Seal w/Mezerna Power Lock (I'm guessing at speeds from 2k-3k with a Black Uber Pad)
-Finish with some quick detailer

Please verify that these speeds/pads are correct, and also if the Power Lock is an actual replacement for wax or do I need to buy wax as well?

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Old 05-09-2012, 01:34 PM   #2
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Maybe this has already been covered..?
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:53 PM   #3
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It's been awhile since I polished, but those speeds seem high. TBH, i was doing a white car which is supposed to be the easiest color to work on. Keep the speeds low, when you polish, you're removing paint!
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:30 PM   #4
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Actually those speeds are good I would actually raise the speed on the finish polish you want the higher speed when polishing so you can generate some heat to actually be able to do paint correction otherwise it wouldn't do much!
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:45 PM   #5
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Well I'm going to finally give my car a full detail. I know what order I want to go in, but am not sure on what speeds to set the PC at.

The process I'll be using is:

-Rinse
-2-Bucket Wash
-Clay
-Polish w/Mezerna SL 1500 (I'm guessing at speeds from 5k-6k with an Orange Uber Pad)
-Polish w/Mezerna SF 4000 (I'm guessing at speeds from 3k-4k with a Green Uber Pad)
-Seal w/Mezerna Power Lock (I'm guessing at speeds from 2k-3k with a Black Uber Pad)
-Finish with some quick detailer


TIA!
These are Porter Cable Dual-Action rpms, so they are correct. Not to be confused with rpms on a rotary non-oscillating machine.

For Sf4000, you should go within ranges of 4k-5k and then after you have worked down the polish, go at a lower speed 3k-4k to restore the gloss. High speed = more abrasive, less glossy. Lower speed= less abrasive, more glossy.


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Actually those speeds are good I would actually raise the speed on the finish polish you want the higher speed when polishing so you can generate some heat to actually be able to do paint correction otherwise it wouldn't do much!
He won't be producing so much heat or any heat at all with a DA polisher... It will mostly depend on his pad and polish/compound choice.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:05 PM   #6
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....I would echo pretty much what pho said. I do most of my correction between 5-6 even on my Flex 3401 DA. I'll sometimes back down the speed while using less pressure for final polishing depending on the scenario.

I will add that you typically want to use a lower speed as you stated for an LSP (last step product; wax/sealant). ....and yes, Power Lock is a stand alone LSP just like a wax, other sealants, etc.

Something I would strongly suggest is that you tape off (using painters tape) a ~1'x1' section on a panel to test your pad/product combinations there before committing to the entire vehicle (making sure to inspect your progress often under adequate lighting). If you get your process dialed in on your test panel first, you will have a much better idea of how much time, effort and the results you can expect when you do the rest of the car. ....you will save yourself a lot of time and frustration.
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:30 PM   #7
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Ah, thanks Pho and Kean. However, I am still unsure of my pad choices. Can anyone chime in for that?

Clarification:
Swirl Removal (4-5k rpms)
Finishing Polish (3-4k rpms)
Power Lock (2-3k rpms)
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:04 PM   #8
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Your pad choice seems correct. But there can also be a lot of variations to use, depending on the paint condition. Start with a less aggressive pad choice for your procedure and do a test panel, like Kean said by taping off so you can do a 50/50 before and after test, then see if that is the finish you are trying to achieve. If it requires heavier cut or polishing, then go with another pass on the same combo. If it is still not what you are looking for, then move up to the next pad, one at a time repeating the testing process. After you have selected the right combo, then take it on the whole car.

It saves time to do a test panel to get the finish you want, then to go all out on the car with your first choice..... THEN figure out thats not what you want and have to do the whole thing again.
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:35 PM   #9
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Yeah, I'll definitely do that. Thanks for the help everyone, I'll post pictures of my findings.
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:56 PM   #10
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i clicked on this thinking you meant wheels... smh
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:03 PM   #11
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You should check out detailedimage.com. They have an awesome detailing guide. I bought a buffer, compounds, and pads from them and my car looks sikkkk.
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