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Old 05-11-2012, 09:44 AM   #51
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This seems to be a case by case thing with Subaru dating back at least to the introduction of the WRX in 2001. I was threatened with denial for "Spirited Driving" in 2003 on a 2.5 Rs that's transmission was crunching between 4th and 5th. They based it on tire wear.

It seems like they backed off that kind of threat/action for many years. Now, unfortunately, I am hearing of many and more "abuse" denials.

As far as returning your car to stock. If they see excessive tire wear, they will look to see if certain nuts, bolts, whatever have been removed and replaced. IF they suspected that you have been tampering with certain parts of the engine they can use that and the tire wear for suspected abuse.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:56 AM   #52
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I'm fully aware of what a lean condition can do and most of us know it's not advisable to run an intake on these cars without some sort of tuning. However, there is no mention of a cracked ringland. Subaru is telling him it was a spun bearing. Also, no where in this thread does the OP mention he let the oil get low. He merely stated his car consumed 4QTs of oil in 5K miles. The car obviously has an oil consumption problem.
Hello? Are you mental? For one they stated the mods broke the car which is true. Yes he said it consumed 4 quarts in 5k, that's some serious damage. There had to be a point where he randomly checked his oil (probably when the oil light flickered when stopping or turning slowly) that he realized he should check his oil. I see it all the time.
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As far as returning your car to stock. If they see excessive tire wear, they will look to see if certain nuts, bolts, whatever have been removed and replaced. IF they suspected that you have been tampering with certain parts of the engine they can use that and the tire wear for suspected abuse.
Even the old guys can see this when returned to stock. It's always easy to spot. Usually if the customer is nice and not someone demanding something people may tend to over look something. You start acting up then ok time to look over the car again.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:13 AM   #54
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Who you calling Old!?!?
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:16 AM   #55
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Who you calling Old!?!?
You know the old guys who try to back their way out of doing engine jobs because all they can do is maintenance work.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:32 AM   #56
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Hello? Are you mental? For one they stated the mods broke the car which is true. Yes he said it consumed 4 quarts in 5k, that's some serious damage. There had to be a point where he randomly checked his oil (probably when the oil light flickered when stopping or turning slowly) that he realized he should check his oil. I see it all the time.
No, I'm not mental. It probably has something to do with the fact that I do litigation support.

4qts in 5K miles is a lot, but is still within the acceptable range per Subaru. Their OC threshold is more than 1qt every 1k miles, after break in. Regardless, I've never had a motor consumed that amount of oil and most every motor I've heard of that consumes a lot of oil tends to die an early death...like this one.

Just like Subaru, you're making very broad assumptions about the OP. You do not know if he let the oil get so low that the motor spun a bearing or if he continously added oil and kept it at a safe level.

Once again, an intake, even on the stock tune, is not going to spin a bearing Same goes for a catback. Worn tires don't indicate abuse either, especially since the tires provided on the STI have a low wear rating and are typically worn out in 15-20K miles, just most other high performance tires on the market. Hell, most 911s eat through their rear tires in less than 10K miles. That's not abuse. That's completely normal. Last time I checked, going around turns is not abusive to the chassis other than the tires themselves. Subaru acts these cars aren't capable to handle sprited driving.
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I bought my STI CPO from a Subaru dealer with the intake already on it, and the car was and is under warranty. This is another case of the dealership/SOA identifying abuse and using aftermarket parts as an excuse. Bad deal? Maybe. Justified? Maybe. Regardless, it's hard to tell by reading about it on a forum what actually happened.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:32 PM   #58
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How do these type of arguments continue to come up? We all know the cliche "you got to pay to play" ... we know it because it is true.

We all know that if you mod your car with anything that requires a tune (DP/Intake/Turbo etc), there is a solid chance engine warranty claims will be denied by the dealer.

I get that some of you guys are just saying that you don't believe the OP's mods could have caused the issue he's having .. but none of us really know the deal here. All we know is that Subaru basically saw some mods on the car, and feel he beat on the car, which caused the problem .. and with an issue like a spun bearing I tend to agree with them. I'm trying not to make assumptions about the OP, but an intake on a turbo car with no tuning? Come on .. even the slightest amount of research would tell you that's a bad idea. I don't know if that contributed to his spun bearing, but it's a dumb move regardless.

Warranties protect you against issues related to the manufacturer or manufacturing process. Once you make a major change to the vehicle, and on a turbo car an intake is major, you put that warranty at risk.

It's been said a billion times on car forums all over the world, if you care about your warranty leave your car stock ... period. If you choose to mod for power, then don't cry about denied warranties if stuff breaks.
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Old 05-11-2012, 05:34 PM   #59
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No, I'm not mental. It probably has something to do with the fact that I do litigation support.

4qts in 5K miles is a lot, but is still within the acceptable range per Subaru. Their OC threshold is more than 1qt every 1k miles, after break in. Regardless, I've never had a motor consumed that amount of oil and most every motor I've heard of that consumes a lot of oil tends to die an early death...like this one.

Just like Subaru, you're making very broad assumptions about the OP. You do not know if he let the oil get so low that the motor spun a bearing or if he continously added oil and kept it at a safe level.

Once again, an intake, even on the stock tune, is not going to spin a bearing Same goes for a catback. Worn tires don't indicate abuse either, especially since the tires provided on the STI have a low wear rating and are typically worn out in 15-20K miles, just most other high performance tires on the market. Hell, most 911s eat through their rear tires in less than 10K miles. That's not abuse. That's completely normal. Last time I checked, going around turns is not abusive to the chassis other than the tires themselves. Subaru acts these cars aren't capable to handle sprited driving.
So I'm looking at it as subaru would, logically. You're saying I'm assuming that he never topped it off. To me I look at it this way prove to me that you kept oil in the car. If you can't then piss on you. I can't say that I've seen to many spun bearings come in for wrx's since they went to the different bearings and nitride crank that weren't neglected. I don't know what's so hard for you to grasp. When you run lean and damage pistons to cause blow by and then one day you check your oil and out of 4.5-4.75 qts of oil you are missing 4 qts then you easily damage bearings. While you may believe otherwise I've seen these same types of people when it starts tapping they add brand new oil to their car. Believe me it's easy to tell. So go ahead and stick up for the guy but his story has holes in it and he doesn't seem to bright so I'm on the dealers side here. If you're dumb enough to throw on a cai then you shouldn't get a free engine.
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How do these type of arguments continue to come up? We all know the cliche "you got to pay to play" ... we know it because it is true.

We all know that if you mod your car with anything that requires a tune (DP/Intake/Turbo etc), there is a solid chance engine warranty claims will be denied by the dealer.

I get that some of you guys are just saying that you don't believe the OP's mods could have caused the issue he's having .. but none of us really know the deal here. All we know is that Subaru basically saw some mods on the car, and feel he beat on the car, which caused the problem .. and with an issue like a spun bearing I tend to agree with them. I'm trying not to make assumptions about the OP, but an intake on a turbo car with no tuning? Come on .. even the slightest amount of research would tell you that's a bad idea. I don't know if that contributed to his spun bearing, but it's a dumb move regardless.

Warranties protect you against issues related to the manufacturer or manufacturing process. Once you make a major change to the vehicle, and on a turbo car an intake is major, you put that warranty at risk.

It's been said a billion times on car forums all over the world, if you care about your warranty leave your car stock ... period. If you choose to mod for power, then don't cry about denied warranties if stuff breaks.
Generally the poor people who can barely afford their car they just bought bitch and cry about getting denied when they were at fault. These are usually dumb people as well who just buy **** for their car without doing research what what can be done with it. Unibomber organized all these nice write ups with links basically telling you what you need to do. People who just click and buy get no sympathy from me. I still research everything I'm looking to buy even if I'm positive I'll be ok.
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How? Think of it this way, it's already known that the pistons aren't the best with a factory tune.
And who's fault is this?

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Yet you flamed me the other night for wanting to flash my car with an OTS Cobb Stage 1 tune (even threaten to report me), and I wasn't even going to run a CAI.



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And who's fault is this?



Yet you flamed me the other night for wanting to flash my car with an OTS Cobb Stage 1 tune (even threaten to report me), and I wasn't even going to run a CAI.



You're a tool.
Who's the homo now? Searching my posts and following me thread to thread. Seems like someone is obsessed with me. Give it up guy.

To answer your question. It's subaru's fault. But for one you knew it had this problem before you bought the car and you bought it anyway so half the blame is on you for letting them get away with it. That being said they have a warranty so when they crack you get a new piston. Now you want to change the tune and if you have an issue you're going to try to cover it up. That's committing fraud. So you're openly admitting that you have a plan to commit fraud?

To your second comment. I didn't flame you at all. All you do is lurk in these threads (you don't even venture into other sections much) and spout off at the mouth about how you're going to reflash your car and commit fraud so subaru covers it under warranty. It doesn't matter that you're not running a CAI you're still changing the parameters of the ecu. Where I come from that voids the warranty. I don't care what people do to their cars but if you are going to be a *** and spout off like you are to me then of course I'll report you. Like I said their search should be pretty easy. You haven't been here as long as me but when the 02 and 03's first came out they took to youtube at autox video's and drag video's to not peoples cars. Enjoy your bill.
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I didn't start driving a WRX until 2005, but Subaru has never been a very mod friendly manufacturer as long as I've owned one.

Knowing that, I still bought another one because I just love the cars. And also knowing that, I choose to put power mods in it knowing that I will be responsible for the repairs if my mods cause something to go out. It's not a big deal, and if you cannot afford repairs then don't mod ... it's really that simple.

It doesn't take much browsing here to see that there are tons of people that simply cannot grasp this basic fact. Those same people then break their cars, and want advice on how to "trick" Subaru to fix their car for them when Subaru had nothing to do with the failure in the first place. This is why you guys get flamed from members here. Your modding your car knowing it will void your warranty, and then coming here to cry about it voiding the warranty. It simply defies common sense.

Here is my last piece of advice in this thread. If you choose to mod, be honest with your dealer about it if stuff breaks. You might be surprised to find that they are willing to work with you to keep you happy, and they will treat you much better knowing your honest with them ... as you would want them to be with you. Sure, it will likely still cost you some money to fix, but they may give you a discount or something depending on the dealer. And even if they don't work with you, be a man and take responsibility for your actions.
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:05 PM   #64
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I didn't start driving a WRX until 2005, but Subaru has never been a very mod friendly manufacturer as long as I've owned one.

Knowing that, I still bought another one because I just love the cars. And also knowing that, I choose to put power mods in it knowing that I will be responsible for the repairs if my mods cause something to go out. It's not a big deal, and if you cannot afford repairs then don't mod ... it's really that simple.

It doesn't take much browsing here to see that there are tons of people that simply cannot grasp this basic fact. Those same people then break their cars, and want advice on how to "trick" Subaru to fix their car for them when Subaru had nothing to do with the failure in the first place. This is why you guys get flamed from members here. Your modding your car knowing it will void your warranty, and then coming here to cry about it voiding the warranty. It simply defies common sense.

Here is my last piece of advice in this thread. If you choose to mod, be honest with your dealer about it if stuff breaks. You might be surprised to find that they are willing to work with you to keep you happy, and they will treat you much better knowing your honest with them ... as you would want them to be with you. Sure, it will likely still cost you some money to fix, but they may give you a discount or something depending on the dealer. And even if they don't work with you, be a man and take responsibility for your actions.
Well put. I've spun bearings and broke transmissions. What do I do? I laugh and fix it. Guess some people are just to poor to fix what they brought on themselves.
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These stories make me hold off on wanting to stage 2 my wrx.
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These stories make me hold off on wanting to stage 2 my wrx.
Ummm - yeah if you can't afford to fix what breaks. I'd think you'd swear off Stage 2 if wanting to keep warranty w/o hassle....
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Who's the homo now? Searching my posts and following me thread to thread. Seems like someone is obsessed with me. Give it up guy.
Your quote...

"All you do is lurk in these threads (you don't even venture into other sections much)"

Who's following who squealer? You searched my past posts first...pot, kettle. You really need to get over yourself...you're only a legend in your own mind.

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To answer your question. It's subaru's fault. But for one you knew it had this problem before you bought the car and you bought it anyway so half the blame is on you for letting them get away with it. That being said they have a warranty so when they crack you get a new piston. Now you want to change the tune and if you have an issue you're going to try to cover it up. That's committing fraud. So you're openly admitting that you have a plan to commit fraud?
So everyone who buys a Cobb AP will at some point be possibly committing fraud then, huh? Just pointing out what a hypocrite you are telling people to get a tune if they run a CAI.

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I don't care what people do to their cars but if you are going to be a *** and spout off like you are to me then of course I'll report you. Like I said their search should be pretty easy. You haven't been here as long as me but when the 02 and 03's first came out they took to youtube at autox video's and drag video's to not peoples cars. Enjoy your bill.
Who the hell do you think you are anyway? Too bad you don't like people talking to you like that...maybe you shouldn't have started this. I just want to let everyone on this web site know you're just a punk a$$ bioch squealer from PA. Thanks for the tips though about not posting up any videos on youtube. Anything else?


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So everyone who buys a Cobb AP will at some point be possibly committing fraud then, huh? Just pointing out what a hypocrite you are telling people to get a tune if they run a CAI.
I dont mean to get technical, but thats essentially saying "I'm 100% pretty sure that I think you dont really know what fraud means. 100% some of the time.

You cant just add the word, possibly, to cover up the chance that someone isnt going to commit fraud with an AP. Then say some guy is 100% a hypocrite. Just sayin.


Also, I'd imagine its close to impossible to commit fraud by saying you have a stock tune when it WAS at a aftermarket tune. Not even considering that your claim would get denied WAY before it even came to an argument of fraud.
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You're a legend
Why thank you. That really means a lot coming from you.

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So everyone who buys a Cobb AP will at some point be possibly committing fraud then, huh? Just pointing out what a hypocrite you are telling people to get a tune if they run a CAI.
No, since you're to stupid to understand it I will just have to explain it to you.

I buy a 2012 sti. I go out an buy a cobb ap to flash my car so I have a better tune. I break a ringland anyway and I go out and buy better pistons and put them in. Big deal. I'm not going to commit fraud and try to get the dealer to fix the car that I broke unless I'm stock and it's a manufacturer defect. You however are poor and can't afford to fix your car so you will attempt to commit fraud against subaru. Hence why you will be reported since you're a douche.

How am I being a hypocrite? Explain it please. If you're going to run a cai you need a tune or you will risk damage just like the original poster in this thread. Never did I say tuning your car is bad. Damn you're dumb.


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Who the hell do you think you are anyway? Too bad you don't like people talking to you like that...maybe you shouldn't have started this. I just want to let everyone on this web site know you're just a punk a$$ bioch squealer from PA. Thanks for the tips though about not posting up any videos on youtube. Anything else?

Who am I? I'm the guy that's screwing your warranty over. I didn't start anything, your lack of financial backing to fix the car you might break did. Cool, let everyone know. I don't hide the fact that I work for subaru. I really don't care what people do to their cars, only **** like you who try and brag about how you're going to commit fraud. Sorry boy start saving. I'll tell you what when your **** blows come on down here and I'll fix your car for half the price your dealer will fix it for.
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I dont mean to get technical, but thats essentially saying "I'm 100% pretty sure that I think you dont really know what fraud means. 100% some of the time.

You cant just add the word, possibly, to cover up the chance that someone isnt going to commit fraud with an AP. Then say some guy is 100% a hypocrite. Just sayin.


Also, I'd imagine its close to impossible to commit fraud by saying you have a stock tune when it WAS at a aftermarket tune. Not even considering that your claim would get denied WAY before it even came to an argument of fraud.
You're not dealing with a smart person.

He claims all he's going to do if his ringlands go is return it to stock and take it to the dealer. That itself is committing fraud. But unfortunately he doesn't realize that the engineers can tell if you were flashed back to stock.
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I dont mean to get technical, but thats essentially saying "I'm 100% pretty sure that I think you dont really know what fraud means. 100% some of the time.
No offense taken. I know full well what "fraud" means. I said "possibly" because chances are not every dealership is going to start hunting around ones ECU if they don't see any "physical" modification like a CAI or downpipe in the case of engine failure. And for the record I never "bragged" about this, I mearly stated it. My issue is with Subaru for the cheap pistons and lean tune. I have no intentions of racing my new STI on the track while under warranty, I'm flashing my ECU to protect against ringland damage from the stock lean tune...on an advertized "performance car".

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You cant just add the word, possibly, to cover up the chance that someone isnt going to commit fraud with an AP. Then say some guy is 100% a hypocrite. Just sayin.
I'm calling the squealer from PA a hypocrite because while flaming me over this, I found threads where Stuipra was telling people to get tunes for modifications. No don't you think these same people will also return to stock before returning to the dealership for warranty work?

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Also, I'd imagine its close to impossible to commit fraud by saying you have a stock tune when it WAS at a aftermarket tune. Not even considering that your claim would get denied WAY before it even came to an argument of fraud.
Agreed. Squealer has taken this whole thing out of context, and has deceided to make this a war with me. My car is going to be a daily driver only while under warranty, my only performace mods will be a CBE and a safer than stock Stage 1 tune to help protect against ringland failure...that's it...I'm not bragging, and I don't consider it "fraud" per sey because I feel the ringlands should not break on an advertized $37,000 "performace car", especially the way I'll be treating it.

And I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.
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You're not dealing with a smart person.

He claims all he's going to do if his ringlands go is return it to stock and take it to the dealer. That itself is committing fraud. But unfortunately he doesn't realize that the engineers can tell if you were flashed back to stock.
You're so retarded it not even funny, and you're a Subaru tech?



I'll add "liar" to your resume as well...squealer boy. Please show me one post where I've stated that I didn't know full well that Subaru if they wanted to could not discover that the ECU has been flashed. I've pointed this fact out in MANY of my posts about this.

Go ahead squealer, find one...I dare you tough guy.
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That does suck but in the end like others have said you put some mods on the car. When you do that you give the manufacturer the green light to deny you. The warranty is for the car the way they built with thier parts. I sell Subarus and drive a modded STI. When a customer buys one from me and starts talking about all the stuff they want to do to the car I tell this up front.
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