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Old 05-15-2012, 03:02 PM   #76
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Finally found a place to cut the legacy key. unfortunately it is too late for the switchblade as I already hacked the valet key and expoxied it in. results aren't spectacular so looking to get another switchblade shell.
You shouldn't have to epoxy anything. The roll pin holds mine firmly in place.

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Xluben, I'd def be interested in a couple shells as well, let me know if you need any help with this deal. The switchblades are very nice quality as well.
Will do. I'm still working on the details.

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This is a reliable source for the correct 11/12 legacy key for us 11/12 wrx/sti guys. Ebay is not reliable as I now have been sent the 10 legacy key advertised as the 11 twice. This place is a bit pricey but you will get the correct key pretty quickly.

http://www.remotesremotes.com/product-p/j30.htm
Good find. I agree that eBay is a crapshoot. I might have to re-think my pricing.

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why aren't you guys just buying the legacy keys from the dealer? subarugenuineparts and fredbeanparts both have them in stock and they're both vendors supporting this forum; seems like a no brainer to me.
How much are they? I think the main reason is that they go for ~$25 on eBay and they're $60 from the website linked above, and probably $100(?) from the dealer?
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Old 05-15-2012, 03:04 PM   #77
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Was unaware that both of those places sold them.......

I didn't have any hand files so I did the filing down with a dremel and i couldn't do it well enough with my cutting bit to put that groove in. Should have just waited until I found a place to do the cut, but it's all good. My switchblade has a few imperfections around the keyring loop anyways.
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Old 05-15-2012, 03:10 PM   #78
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You can find the key from Genuine parts for 65. Good deal there as well, just didn't find it on their site earlier without the part number in hand. Just search this in the part number box 57497AJ10A
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Old 05-15-2012, 03:11 PM   #79
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Odd, I couldn't find it on their either. Links don't work on SubaruGenuineParts (a big downside, IMO). Having to re-search for every part every time is a big enough pain that I usually just avoid it.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:30 PM   #80
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How much are they? I think the main reason is that they go for ~$25 on eBay and they're $60 from the website linked above, and probably $100(?) from the dealer?
$65 from FredBeans: http://www.fredbeansparts.com/index....n-one-key.html

$57 from SubaruGenuineParts: http://www.subarugenuineparts.com/pr...oducts_id=1834

The one on SGP.com appears to be a different version, however, it is the same part number.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:32 PM   #81
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Those look like standard keys rather than the laser cut type.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:32 PM   #82
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$65 from FredBeans: http://www.fredbeansparts.com/index....n-one-key.html

$57 from SubaruGenuineParts: http://www.subarugenuineparts.com/pr...oducts_id=1834

The one on SGP.com appears to be a different version, however, it is the same part number.
Neither of those are 2011 Legacy keys, so they won't work with this thread writeup.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:40 PM   #83
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If you go to the subaruparts sites and go to the OEM catalog then search using the part number for the 2011 Legacy Key, it will come up.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:40 PM   #84
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If you go to the subaruparts sites and go to the OEM catalog then search using the part number for the 2011 Legacy Key, it will come up.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:43 PM   #85
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Neither of those are 2011 Legacy keys, so they won't work with this thread writeup.
Ah, ok. I see the difference now. I am trying to make one of these for my 05 Legacy (I'll need one of those keys I linked), and I was assuming it was the same.

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If you go to the subaruparts sites and go to the OEM catalog then search using the part number for the 2011 Legacy Key, it will come up.
https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/oe_parts_cat.html

part number search on the right side.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:46 PM   #86
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so, in order for me to get mine to work (non laser cut style), I'll have to cut and trim the key to fit like the OP did. I was hoping it would be just a simple buy the switchblade, swap internals, i'm good.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:46 PM   #87
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$66 and no photo? I'd be hesitant. I wouldn't buy any key unless it has the part number and photo. eBay has shown that there are a lot of little variations, and not all of them work.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:48 PM   #88
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so, in order for me to get mine to work (non laser cut style), I'll have to cut and trim the key to fit like the OP did. I was hoping it would be just a simple buy the switchblade, swap internals, i'm good.
Unless you can get a blade cut, then you have to modify your key blade to fit the switchblade housing.
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Old 05-15-2012, 04:56 PM   #89
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Unless you can get a blade cut, then you have to modify your key blade to fit the switchblade housing.
the valet key seems to be a good source since it's a 3rd key (if you still have your spare).

Is there instructions floating around on programming the 2011 remotes? what are the metal tags on my spare key - one has a letter then a number then another says "security ID" and a 5-digit number.
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:00 PM   #90
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the valet key seems to be a good source since it's a 3rd key (if you still have your spare).

Is there instructions floating around on programming the 2011 remotes? what are the metal tags on my spare key - one has a letter then a number then another says "security ID" and a 5-digit number.
The valet key is an OK option, but it has a slightly different cut so it will not open the glove box or trunk. I used the valet key, but I would probably suggest using one of the normal keys. Since it is likely becoming your "main" key, why would you want to use one with limited abilities? Once you complete the work you still end up with the same number of keys you started with, so the valet key can still be used as the valet key. It's not like you "gain" something by using the valet key as the donor.

The instructions are linked in one of my first posts. The number needed for the programming is inside on a sticker on the circuit board. The numbers on the metal tags are for getting new keys cut. They don't matter for the remote.
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:00 PM   #91
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the 1 locksmith that i found that might be able to cut the keys quoted $65 to do so. so much for a budget mod
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:04 PM   #92
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I paid 30 today to get mine done. Well worth it IMO, will be going back once the switchblades are available again. Look around, there are small guys out there with capabilities to cut the sidewinder keys, just have to find them. In Boston there should be a bunch
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The valet key is an OK option, but it has a slightly different cut so it will not open the glove box or trunk. I used the valet key, but I would probably suggest using one of the normal keys. Since it is likely becoming your "main" key, why would you want to use one with limited abilities? Once you complete the work you still end up with the same number of keys you started with, so the valet key can still be used as the valet key. It's not like you "gain" something by using the valet key as the donor.

The instructions are linked in one of my first posts. The number needed for the programming is inside on a sticker on the circuit board. The numbers on the metal tags are for getting new keys cut. They don't matter for the remote.
Perfect, thanks. I've been searching and I must have skipped right over the obvious place for them.. Good point on the valet key - I forgot about the glove box/trunk.

Now for a quick question.. The Key specs for the 2011 Legacy key were listed as this:

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Part Number 57497AJ10A
FCC ID of CWTWB1U811
But the FCC ID on both of my FOBs for my 2011 WRX Premium is: CWTWB1U819

Are these FCC IDs different across the board or does the first post have an incorrect FCC ID for the 2011 WRX keyfob
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The FCC ID in the original post is for the 2011 Legacy key (the one you need to buy). The FCC ID you listed for the 2011 WRX is correct.
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oh, ok. I was under the assumption that the FCC ID had to be the same. Now I understand! lol.
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Old 05-16-2012, 11:02 AM   #96
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2011 WRX + 2011 Legacy Key = No box and your OEM remotes work
2011 WRX + 05-09 Legacy Key = Yes box and your OEM remotes don't work
Lets just forget that second one, it could be done theoretically with much pain and custom wiring and would be pointless when the new Legacy key is a direct swap.

The difference here is the 08-10 Impreza, that is the one that needs the keyless unit swapped (and hence my DIY for that). 11-12 owners have it much easier.

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oh, ok. I was under the assumption that the FCC ID had to be the same. Now I understand! lol.
Yeah the FCC ID gets confusing quick ;-) There are keys with different FCC IDs that will swap, and there are keys with the SAME FCC ID that *will not* swap.

The FCC ID is just something that any maker of radio equipment has to register with the FCC for the transmitter. It only lays out the general form factor and frequency. Beyond that Subaru can change the operation, encoding, or anything that affects compatibility without applying for a new ID. On the other hand if they change the shape of the key they have to get a new FCC ID. Ok that is probably more than anyone wants to know...
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Very cool, thanks for the detailed writeup!
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:33 PM   #98
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2011 WRX + 2011 Legacy Key = No box and your OEM remotes work
2011 WRX + 05-09 Legacy Key = Yes box and your OEM remotes don't work

Hey thanks a lot.. I really would like to do this considering I wouldn't have to get a new box and my OEM remotes would work.. this sounds awesome...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Remote-Flip-...45854510709979

would this shell work for this project? I can tell its a bit different. If not I am willing to purchase a shell when whoever gets it in bulk
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Just ordered a 2011 Legacy key - just need to track down the flip-case now.
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Just ordered a 2011 Legacy key - just need to track down the flip-case now.
Where did you order your key from?
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