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Old 05-10-2012, 02:05 AM   #1
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Here's the story -- in short.

My 98 acura died about six months ago after I had gotten a new job -- sweet. Time for a WRX. Bought one. New job is 50 miles out of town, one way. fast forward six months and my new WRX has 13k miles on it and counting.

Now, this is situational as I plan on moving within walking distance of work in the next few weeks and hope to offset my mileage for the remainder of the year.

Needless to say, my front bumper has taken its toll of nicks and dings. Then, today, pulling out of the grocery store parking lot, I hit a huge dip in the road that looked way more shallow than it actually was. Scraped the under / lower side of my bumper enough that I know its there -- and that bugs me.

My question: Once I move I might pony up and pay for a front bumper sand / repaint. Do you think the paint shop will be able to accurately match the color given that the OEM pain job is still fairly new with little to no fading? Its Ice Silver Metallic.

Thanks -- and yes, I know in a year or even less I could very well scratch the bumper again defeating the repaint. Maybe I'm crazy, but it annoys me that my baby is all damaged. Get over it and spend that money on mods?
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:11 AM   #2
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If you take it to a good shop they shouldnt have a problem. When I had to replace a fender on my WRX (WRB) they ended up painting my hood and front bumper to match perfect. Since you have a 2012 it will be much easier since your car wont have paint fade from sun and other crap.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:28 AM   #3
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get over it and spend the money on mods ---> get a front lip to cover it up.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:28 AM   #4
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double post. meh

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Old 05-10-2012, 08:35 AM   #5
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Unless you have the entire car repainted (which is wholly unnecessary) the paint will never match exactly.

From the factory, the bumper covers don't match the car exactly. Why? Bumper covers, like many other components (e.g. seats; interior parts; etc.) are not made by the car maker. Bumper covers are both made and painted to match by that outside manufacturer and then are assembled as a ready-to-go item when it gets to the automaker's factory.

If you choose to have someone effectively fix and retouch the cover, it still won't match and depending on lighting conditions, you will see where the new and original paints are blended.

Don't get me wrong, a good shop can effectively blend the paint with little notice of difference. It's finding a shop that isn't a 'pump and dump shop' is the problem. You'll want a shop that does real custom and restoration work.

I agree however that you can (should) get a lip for the bottom. Trust me, I basically did the same at the underside where you couldn't see it and it bugged me. The lip (if properly fastened with the correct hardware - not sheet-metal screws that so many come with) will take the brunt of the 'abuse'.

Or, if the damage isn't too high-up on the face of the cover, wet-sand it yourself, use OEM touch-up paint and install a lip.

Whatever you choose to do, good luck and I hope you can have the cover repaired to your liking.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:42 AM   #6
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a good shop will be able to get the paint to match with a shade or so, like stated above factory bumpers dont match from the get go simply because they are painted elsewhere, and they are not metal. They are plastic and therefore start life as a different color than metal and that ultimately is the reason for them not matching perfectly. But I mean come on its usually relatively close(Ill admit some factory bumpers are so off in color its crazy) but most of the time its pretty close. Unless you are so acute to a color being a shade or two lighter or darker on a bumper that is usually that way anyhow, you probably wont notice. especially if they are using quality materials who companies do lots of research and have well known matching characterstics. Dupont, basf, sickens, spies hecker etc etc. In my opinion, stay away from any shop that uses Nason, Omni, Sherwin williams as a daily paint used to blend panels and match. Cause they are terrible paints for color matching. I wouldnt reccommend them for all over paint jobs either but that is what they are mostly made for, since they are too volatile and cheapily made to be used for matching.
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:18 AM   #7
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Call local Subaru dealer and ask them who they use for body work.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:36 PM   #8
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Maybe you have a Subaru dealer were your located that has a body shop. My Subaru dealer dose here in IL. Then again i do my own bodywork and painting so i can only say form what i've seen they do good work and then you don't have to run into a body shop that uses crappy paint.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:58 PM   #9
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Yeah I looked at it again today with a clear head and proper light and it's not as bad as I thought initially. It's really the underside of the bumper and barely makes its way to the front (if that makes sense). I think i'll just throw on a front lip and you probably wont' even see it (given the lip is fastened properly)

Thanks for the input everyone.
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Old 05-10-2012, 01:40 PM   #10
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A quality shop will have no problem matching the paint and your bumper should come out looking like new. If the shop you take it to has to blend the fenders and or hood to match the paint they put on the bumper, go somewhere else. Blending is NEVER needed when doing a simple bumper job.

Someone said go to a Subaru dealer that has a body shop. There is absolutely no difference in going to a body shop at a Subaru dealer and going to another quality shop somewhere else. Both shops will be using the same stuff, just because they are in a Subaru dealership doesnt mean they are using some kind of special Subaru paint or will be able to match the paint any better than another shop.

If you do still want to get the work done, do your own research around the area and find one that is reputable and will do what you want. Dont just go to where your local dealer sends you. If the dealership is sending work there, odds are its because that body shop is giving them some kind of kick back.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:30 PM   #11
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I would find a reputable shop that uses PPG. I had my bumper repaint by a shop that uses PPG and paint came out dead on just from using paint code, not to mention that PSM are pretty hard to match. The shop did tell me that PPG was the main provider of all OEM paint.
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Old 05-10-2012, 04:57 PM   #12
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psm is one of the easier colors in my opinion. There is so little amount of other tints that if the shop is using decent product like Dupont, PPG, sickens, spies and the correct value shade sealers.it will match really well. its the shop thats use ****ball paint that causes problems.

and exactly what vlasic said. a good shop is either better or just as good as a stealership. Most independent shops are going to do a better job anyhow since they are not usually as rushed for time like the dealership is. They can buy whatever paint they want, usually its decent stuff. The same paint company that sells to them sells to the independent shops as well. Its just a matter of whether or not each place decides to use the cheap stuff to maximize profit, or to use the good stuff to ensure a proper match and nice finish with good warranties on the product.
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:41 PM   #13
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Depending on the quality of body shop and paint they use. Every brand has good, better, and best color matching and performance. Depending on the color, most places can find a chip from a varient that matches or the best way to ensure match is to BLEND!
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:32 PM   #14
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i would just buy a lip and touchup whatever is visible.
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Old 05-27-2012, 09:59 PM   #15
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Unless you have the entire car repainted (which is wholly unnecessary) the paint will never match exactly.

From the factory, the bumper covers don't match the car exactly. Why? Bumper covers, like many other components (e.g. seats; interior parts; etc.) are not made by the car maker. Bumper covers are both made and painted to match by that outside manufacturer and then are assembled as a ready-to-go item when it gets to the automaker's factory.

If you choose to have someone effectively fix and retouch the cover, it still won't match and depending on lighting conditions, you will see where the new and original paints are blended.

Don't get me wrong, a good shop can effectively blend the paint with little notice of difference. It's finding a shop that isn't a 'pump and dump shop' is the problem. You'll want a shop that does real custom and restoration work.

I agree however that you can (should) get a lip for the bottom. Trust me, I basically did the same at the underside where you couldn't see it and it bugged me. The lip (if properly fastened with the correct hardware - not sheet-metal screws that so many come with) will take the brunt of the 'abuse'.

Or, if the damage isn't too high-up on the face of the cover, wet-sand it yourself, use OEM touch-up paint and install a lip.

Whatever you choose to do, good luck and I hope you can have the cover repaired to your liking.


this is full of misinformation.

the reason that PLASTIC parts don't match from the OEM is because the substrate is different then that of the chassis, thus the solvents evaporate at different rates depending on what substrate the paint is sprayed on. Parts being manufactured elsewhere really doesn't have anything to do with the situation.


you do not need a "custom" shop to effectively make an accurate blend that will be unnoticeable to even trained eyes. we have so many different methods now days to perform accurate blends. rule of thumb, if there is specific damage that is less than 12" away from adjacent panels, we must blend into those adjacent panels. depending on the base coat being applied, I can use products that are essentially midcoast binders, like DBC500 from PPG. this product is essentially a "base coat with no pigment" and is used with a percentage of the original base coat color when blending to prevent mottling, metallic halo's, and makes it even easier to reduce the risk of zebra striping before the fog coat.



I have blended panels on countless cars, including my own. i would put money on it that you, nor anyone else could tell me precisely where the new base begins within the panels.




On another note, If you bring your car to a shop, without specifically requesting them to blend into your hood and fenders while spraying the bumper, they will not.

again, due to the different substrates of the parts, they will simply dead panel the bumper with the closest matching variant of the paint
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Get a CF front lip and call it a day. Whenever mine is scratched up, I just buff/reclear coat it
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From the factory, the bumper covers don't match the car exactly. Why? Bumper covers, like many other components (e.g. seats; interior parts; etc.) are not made by the car maker. Bumper covers are both made and painted to match by that outside manufacturer and then are assembled as a ready-to-go item when it gets to the automaker's factory.
Lol wow you smoking something. The reason why the paint does not lay a perfect match is because of the surface it is being sprayed on. Plastic and metal. Please don't preach if you don't know the correct information.
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The reason why the paint does not lay a perfect match is because of the surface it is being sprayed on.
Correcto-mundo.
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Why not just get a new bumper in a similar or completely different color and work on a body kit?
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The reason why the paint does not lay a perfect match is because of the surface it is being sprayed on. Plastic and metal.
That is a TRUE STORY..
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