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Old 05-20-2012, 09:25 PM   #1
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Default Team CNOEVO 2006 STI Hill Climb Build

I have been asked by a few people to start a build thread so here it is.

A little background. I bought this car brand new in 2006 and started autocrossing it with less 500 miles on the odometer. I competed locally in AS for two years then spent three years building and competing in BSP locally, regionally and finally last year went to nationals. Autocross is a lot of fun but I wanted more (speed, mods) and then when I found out my wife was pregnant I realized I wouldn't be able to spend 3 to 4 weekends a month for 8 months a year out travelling and racing. So I decided if I was going to race less I should focus on what I enjoy the most - HILL CLIMBS!!!!!!

With the car in Street Prepared trim I was able to set a lot records. Actually ever hill I went to I set the record for my class. For those that don't know, hill climbs are hard and here in the northwest it is not common to go out your first year at a hill and set a record - no matter what the record. Last year I was consistently improving as a driver and was considered a top contender at each race for king of the hill award (this is the award for fastest car/person up the hill no matter what class). My last race of the year I was top door slammer (this is the second fastest car up the hill and must have a drivers door that opens and closes). My goal is to be consistently the king of the hill.

To be king, you don't build for class. Our local regional club, NHA (Northwest Hillclimb Association), created a class for such a task - HCP (Hill Climb Prototype). Essentially the only rule is it has to be safe - everything else is open. So far we only have one car competing in the class officially and the car is nuts. I have been this car at one hill climb and it was hard. I have actually beat ever car I have ever competed against in a hill climb - but I want to do it consistently.

So with no rules in mind we had to form a plan.

Step 1: Weight - our goal is to get the car light without spending a lot of money on lightweight parts. So far we have stripped the interior and gutted the door, hood, and the carbon fiber truck (which I got for $100). Pinned the hood and trunk. Used dzus fasteners for the rear doors, front and rear bumper. Removed both bumpers. I might be forgetting something.

Step 2: Areo - I just received my Kongition wing and all I can say is WOW!!! I hope I can get him to make me a front splitter if not I have already started on one myself. We will be making a rear diffuser and some other parts.

Step 3: Power - Plan now is to do some minor changes to my motor for this season and go all out this winter. I have been talking to Micah from 3MI Racing about the motor, got a twin scroll setup from AFI turbo, probably going to run a GTX30R, V-Mount and I am sure some other things.

I know I am missing some of the plan and I can post more about what we have already done if people are interested.

I will add more but here are some pictures

My car started out blue but I totally got screwed by a body shop who did a crappy flat black paint job.


This is a couple years old.


Here are a few subaru's at a hill last year. I am in the far back


This is the same race I believe as the shot above.


Here you can see the cage and the gutted interior.


Here is our secret sauce. We have special fuel that allows us to make some great power (better than C-16) and at more than half the cost of C-16.


My Kongition wing. This wing is amazing!!! I can't explain how happy I am with this wing.


more to come...
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:27 PM   #4
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AWESOME. I though you'd never do it again
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Ya I didn't think I would either but the people have spoken...haha
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Old 05-21-2012, 10:27 PM   #10
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I'm on here now ;-)
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:04 PM   #11
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Getting ready for Cascade Lakes hill climb so I was watching some old videos. Here is my BSP record run last year. My car broke before my first run on the second day so I only had two runs. My goal this year is to go 7 seconds faster - which would be the fastest ever up that hill.



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Thinking about trying out these tires for track days. Anyone try these out yet? http://www.ventustd.com/
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I'd like to say hi from another hillclimber. It's an addiction that seem's to be life long.

I never seem to see much written about the events on the west coast? I have been interested and have been keeping my eye out for talk about the events. There was a fellow from the PHA hillclimb series that came out and ran with you guys and had nothing but good things to say (and took some King of the hill wins). So, I have been thinking of coming out and trying some in the next few years.
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I'd like to say hi from another hillclimber. It's an addiction that seem's to be life long.

I never seem to see much written about the events on the west coast? I have been interested and have been keeping my eye out for talk about the events. There was a fellow from the PHA hillclimb series that came out and ran with you guys and had nothing but good things to say (and took some King of the hill wins). So, I have been thinking of coming out and trying some in the next few years.
Nice to meet you. Yes, after my first hill climb I was addicted for life. I mean look what I did to my brand new STI with less than 50,000 miles.

I think I heard about your friend and am sad I never raced with him. Will he or you make it to any races this year? I am only doing four as it sits right now - baby girl due in August.
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I'm not sure if i will make it out this year or not. All US hillclimbs are on my radar and i would love to hit most of them at one point or another.

Congrats on the baby coming! I have 2 young ones myself and i kno how hard it can be to get to events after they are born.
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Getting ready for Cascade Lakes hill climb so I was watching some old videos. Here is my BSP record run last year. My car broke before my first run on the second day so I only had two runs. My goal this year is to go 7 seconds faster - which would be the fastest ever up that hill.


Cascade Lakes 2011 BSP Record 113 run - YouTube
You loose a rad hose or something at the end? Nice run! Wish we had hillclimb's in our region. Too much red tape in Southern California to hold events like this unfortunately.

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I actually just emailed you back and look what thread I found
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You loose a rad hose or something at the end? Nice run! Wish we had hillclimb's in our region. Too much red tape in Southern California to hold events like this unfortunately.

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The oil feed lines for the turbo cracked. After that weekend we replaced them with braided lines.
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I actually just emailed you back and look what thread I found
Ya I figured people might find this interesting. It will be a lot more interesting next year when I have your motor in my car!
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Nice to see another hill climber as there are very few of us.
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Nice to see another hill climber as there are very few of us.
Yes, very few. I wish some TA teams would come to a hill... would love to run against them on a hill and see how I stack up.
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The weekend before last we were at an event on a mini track doing some shake down on the car and broke the rear end. Dropped it off to get repaired and here is the picture PRERacing posted.

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So last week after the first hill of the season, decided I need to install the twin scroll setup. Ordered a T4 twin scroll rotated GTX3076R. Knew I needed injectors but wanted to see if I could sell mine first. Sold mine the day before the install date so over night shipped some DW 2200s.
Showed up at PRE on Wednesday morning and took the old stock turbo setup off, go to install the new setup and it won't clear the Cosworth oil pan.... crap.

So now my car sits as I ponder my next step. I could put it back together, but I want that extra power and don't want to pay to put it back together just to take it out this winter to do the motor. I know I am going to buy a dry sump this winter, but again don't want to pay to install it now to pull the motor this winter.

So now I decided that I am not going to wait until this winter to do the motor.
So here is my choices on the short block? Feedback is appreciated.

Use my current short block option 1: (just an idea of mine)
- simply replace the rods and not push the turbo/power levels (not really an option but a thought)
Sell nothing
Use my current short block option 2: (PRE suggestion based on my feedback)
- Pistons: CP 10:1 pistons that are 2mm shorter and stock 99.5mm bore
- Rods: Carrillo rods 2mm longer (I believe the PRO-SA)
- Crank: Scat/US Crankshafts 79mm crank
- Reuse current Darton sleeves
Sell what I can (probably only my stock STI crank and Cosworth pistons - maybe get $500 back between the two)
New short block option 3: (#MI suggestion based on my feedback)
- Pistons: 3MI Racing 10:1 pistons that are 2mm short and 4" bore (that's 101.6mm right Micah?)
- Rods: 3MI Racing Rods 2mm longer rod
- Crank: Nitrated 08 STI crank
- New block with new Darton sleeves
Sell my complete short block (not sure if anyone would want a darton sleeved block with Cosworth pistons but stock rods and crank - maybe get $1500 but thats doubtful)


I am leaning towards doing option 3 no matter what and also doing option 1 (or 2). Just having a hard time deciding as this will be expensive and I don't want to do it again. I built my motor for BSP the winter before last (about 15 months ago) and that was spendy ($10k or so) and now I feel like it was a waste of $10k since I am doing another build. Granted I did race the car for a full season an 4 or so this year.
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Thought everyone might enjoy some in car and top of car video of my mishap at a hill climb about 6 weeks ago.
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Thought everyone might enjoy some in car and top of car video of my mishap at a hill climb about 6 weeks ago.
2012 Cascade Lakes Hill Climb Day 2 Run 3 - Robert's oops - YouTube
Who organizes these races? Do they have a web site?

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