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Old 02-01-2013, 03:38 AM   #2701
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I am pretty sure in the manual it tells you to check your oil with every fill up. A bit overkill IMO.
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:36 AM   #2702
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Not sure why Zeeper keeps following this thread when he clealy is biased against "the oil consuming consiracy"...but whatever. He should just ignore this entire thread to be honest.

I wonder that if under warranty you don't refill your oil until your oil change is up.....how long the engine would last?
Where does it say you are responsible for the oil staying in the engine? Just being stupid, I know...but they think we are anyhow, don't they?

We have 80k+ on our 2007 2.5i and it runs great. I'm mad that I don't even like the new Imprezas anymore regardless of the fact they may/may not burn oil. I like having AWD but seeing as that in Florida you don't really NEED it...I'm wondering what car I would like if I had to choose right now...coming up pretty clueless.

I did want a BRZ...but that has the oil burner engine no? Maybe a used Genesis Coupe? Ehh.... 350Z? Not sure...
I follow the thread because there is occasionally something informative here (Search for Rexygirls posts, for example, if you want to read something informative), unlike your post which really said nothing other than:
  • you ponder about not refilling the oil when it gets low to force the engine to seize (note: won't be covered under warranty, you must maintain the car as stipulated in the owners manual which includes adding oil if, say, the low oil light illuminates)
  • you don't like the redesigned impreza now (that you don't own and apparently don't plan to).

    Now that is useful information that added to everyones understanding of the new impreza oil consumption issue!

I find it better to ignore useless posters than threads here, so I will add you to the list! Thanks for playing.

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Old 02-01-2013, 08:46 AM   #2703
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:04 AM   #2704
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I wonder that if under warranty you don't refill your oil until your oil change is up.....how long the engine would last?
Where does it say you are responsible for the oil staying in the engine? Just being stupid, I know...but they think we are anyhow, don't they?
That's an idiom called "Cutting off your nose to spite your face." The owner will end up the big loser. Buy a jug of oil or buy a new engine? Decisions decisions......
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:22 AM   #2705
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Not sure why Zeeper keeps following this thread when he clealy is biased against "the oil consuming consiracy"...but whatever. He should just ignore this entire thread to be honest.
For nothing else there's entertainment value to reading 79's conversation with himself on here. Never seen someone quote himself so often. Also this can be informative for some, at least every 20 posts or so can be. Also, I'm hoping to see an outcome. Sounds like engines are being replaced for some with accurate testing.

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We have 80k+ on our 2007 2.5i and it runs great. I'm mad that I don't even like the new Imprezas anymore regardless of the fact they may/may not burn oil. I like having AWD but seeing as that in Florida you don't really NEED it...I'm wondering what car I would like if I had to choose right now...coming up pretty clueless.

I did want a BRZ...but that has the oil burner engine no? Maybe a used Genesis Coupe? Ehh.... 350Z? Not sure...
Good news is you'll get at least another 80k miles + out of that car. But I wouldn't let the few # of cars consuming excessive oil deter you from this engine. Without getting blasted for throwing out an estimate, the percentage is low. Very low. & if that's the way you look at it every single car out there has potential to behave this way too, but a vast majority don't.
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:43 PM   #2706
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so randomly looking through the thread. I dont see alot of 2013 in here. i see little but i guess time will tell.
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:25 PM   #2707
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For nothing else there's entertainment value to reading 79's conversation with himself on here. Never seen someone quote himself so often. Also this can be informative for some, at least every 20 posts or so can be. Also, I'm hoping to see an outcome. Sounds like engines are being replaced for some with accurate testing.


Good news is you'll get at least another 80k miles + out of that car. But I wouldn't let the few # of cars consuming excessive oil deter you from this engine. Without getting blasted for throwing out an estimate, the percentage is low. Very low. & if that's the way you look at it every single car out there has potential to behave this way too, but a vast majority don't.
The only reason I'd "quote myself" would be that I'm often misquoted.
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:46 PM   #2708
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An informative read. Take into account first year depreciation, as the last couple paragraphs explain. "if you plan on keeping it or buy it used, the cost to own and operate a mercedes isnt really much different than a non-premiuim car."
I've noticed Volvos and Benzes a couple years old that werent out of reach financially.

But enough for now, I'm waiting to see what summer brings, and then I'll make a determination.
I don't know how they figure. They cost more new, they cost more used, and parts cost more than a "non premium" car.

Sure, you can get a used Benz for the price of a new "non premium" car, but used is used and with it comes the uncertainty of what the previous owner did to the car, and I guess to some, it's worth it for the emblem on the hood.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:25 PM   #2709
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Just considering the options i may have.
Lots of folks have suggested a used WRX, but with its maintenanve and my leeriness of subaru thats a less appealing option than a 2010 c-series that looks brand new and has been well cared for.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:12 AM   #2710
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Sure, you can get a used Benz for the price of a new "non premium" car, but used is used and with it comes the uncertainty of what the previous owner did to the car, and I guess to some, it's worth it for the emblem on the hood.
I understand it costs a C-Note (oops) G-Note just to pull it into the dealer's service department...

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Old 02-02-2013, 01:24 AM   #2711
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Even if you do the work yourself, the parts are more expensive for MB versus Subaru. You'll wish you kept the Impreza and added a quart or two every oil change!
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:19 AM   #2712
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Even if you do the work yourself, the parts are more expensive for MB versus Subaru. You'll wish you kept the Impreza and added a quart or two every oil change!
Earlier in this thread, I calculated that adding 1 qt of oil every 1500 miles would cost an extra $40/year. So 79 already knows that the expense of owning an oil consuming Impreza isn't a big deal. He's just angry that he should need to add oil to a young car from a reputably reliable brand.

Can't say I blame him there. But you're right--if it was my car, I'd add the oil as needed, keep a quart in the trunk, and not worry about it. I suspect that 79's car is otherwise going to give him many years of dependable service. To help confirm this, I might send an oil sample into Blackstone just to make sure they don't see anything unusual. And now that we're hearing of Subaru replacing engines, I'd let the dealership do a proper consumption test to see if I qualify.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:11 AM   #2713
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I dont see how the things gonna last like you say....
As to the "c-note", well have you looked at the prices for service at a subaru dealer?? Its 70-90 for an oil change with an fb car. they want a hundo just to drain the rear end and refill it.
All new cars are expensive to buy and maintain. If I'm gonna have yo pamper this thing and haul around extra oil, hmmmm that just doesnt sound too thrilling.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:15 AM   #2714
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And I AM getting a proper consumption test performed- AT MY NEXT SERVICE VISIT.
1950 miles, and I've only burned amost a quart.
So stop incinuating that I'm not doing ANYTHING. I'm just trying to be a bit patient and see what my oil useage does.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:56 AM   #2715
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I understand it costs a C-Note just to pull it into the dealer's service department...
Yep! I got rid of my 2011 Jetta TDI for that very reason...every 40k service was around $800 and I traded it in at 16 months with 44k miles so that money goes quick!
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:57 AM   #2716
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Even if you do the work yourself, the parts are more expensive for MB versus Subaru. You'll wish you kept the Impreza and added a quart or two every oil change!
Meant to quote this for my previous reply,
Not about the c-note
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:04 AM   #2717
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Also, again, its not the 7.99 a quart for the oil that is a factor at all. Its the very fact that my car I bought new even needs this.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:20 AM   #2718
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Earlier in this thread, I calculated that adding 1 qt of oil every 1500 miles would cost an extra $40/year. So 79 already knows that the expense of owning an oil consuming Impreza isn't a big deal. He's just angry that he should need to add oil to a young car from a reputably reliable brand.

Can't say I blame him there. But you're right--if it was my car, I'd add the oil as needed, keep a quart in the trunk, and not worry about it. I suspect that 79's car is otherwise going to give him many years of dependable service. To help confirm this, I might send an oil sample into Blackstone just to make sure they don't see anything unusual. And now that we're hearing of Subaru replacing engines, I'd let the dealership do a proper consumption test to see if I qualify.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:38 AM   #2719
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I got the dealer to take the car and run some tests, they put a DYE in the oil to see if it's leaking into another part of the motor or if it's actually burning it. They said after a few 100 miles bring it back and they are going to use the Ultra Violet light and see if they find anything. So they changed the CamShaft Sensors and replaced some seals and they cleaned any oil residue from the leak, and now so far no oil level light & no oil on any part the outside of the motor. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Wish me luck guys!

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Old 02-02-2013, 09:49 AM   #2720
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I dont see how the things gonna last like you say....
As to the "c-note", well have you looked at the prices for service at a subaru dealer?? Its 70-90 for an oil change with an fb car. they want a hundo just to drain the rear end and refill it.
All new cars are expensive to buy and maintain. If I'm gonna have yo pamper this thing and haul around extra oil, hmmmm that just doesnt sound too thrilling.
Yep, I blew it. I meant G-Note.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:54 AM   #2721
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Emotional thinking and logical thinking are parallel lines, they don't cross.
Logical thinking is not subjective or opinionated either. (e.g. "drive reasonably")
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:00 AM   #2722
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And I AM getting a proper consumption test performed- AT MY NEXT SERVICE VISIT.
1950 miles, and I've only burned amost a quart.
Forget the doughnuts this time just be polite, precise and persistent. Your car certainly appears to be burning what most would consider an unacceptably high amount that is not common to most '12 Imprezas.

Have had 2 oil changes with 0-20 so far ( both times the dealer overfilled by a high amount and I had to ask them to drain some ) but luckily the oil has stayed near the Full line and only seems to start dropping a little as it nears the 6250 mile oil change interval.

This dropping near 6000 miles seems normal with some makes using light Fully synthetic oils and certainly true with my now old 5spd '04 Ford Fiesta using 5/30 Synth and its motor still runs like new with 60,000 mostly city miles on it.


Check out the UKs 2012 Survey results Subaru is rated at number 5 most reliable make with VW in 20th.
http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/what...1st-6th/263555
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:44 AM   #2723
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Yeah, but until I burn more than 1.1 quarts per 1200 miles, its a normal functioning engine as far as Subaru is concearned. That is why I am so aggrivated... I'm burning a high amount regularly, but not "enough".
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:53 AM   #2724
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Comgrats to gregorz- on the new engine. I'm very interested to see how the new one goes!
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:03 PM   #2725
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Earlier in this thread, I calculated that adding 1 qt of oil every 1500 miles would cost an extra $40/year. So 79 already knows that the expense of owning an oil consuming Impreza isn't a big deal. He's just angry that he should need to add oil to a young car from a reputably reliable brand.

Can't say I blame him there. But you're right--if it was my car, I'd add the oil as needed, keep a quart in the trunk, and not worry about it. I suspect that 79's car is otherwise going to give him many years of dependable service. To help confirm this, I might send an oil sample into Blackstone just to make sure they don't see anything unusual. And now that we're hearing of Subaru replacing engines, I'd let the dealership do a proper consumption test to see if I qualify.
I hear you, I would be upset as well. I know it's not about the $40 year for oil, but with any car you are not guaranteed to not have oil consumption problems or any other issues for that matter. This is especially true with a used car as they may be selling it because of problems - just like 79 is doing.
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