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Old 06-22-2012, 02:54 PM   #276
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Yeah, I did the same thing in April when my low light came on the first time. Most people are only going to read one side of the stick unless they know to read both sides.
Ive never done this but ive always had a problem reading my dipsticks (have to look for the oil sheen) Wonder if painting it white would make it easier. or painting it half white so there is some contrast
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Old 06-22-2012, 02:59 PM   #277
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Will you be installing a Fumoto valve when you change your oil?
no. not for now. going to attempt to do it without a jack or ramps, but we will see. clearance is almost as bad as my wife's prius for getting the drain plug out easily with the pan in place.

in the long run, maybe. i know people love the things, but i also like the idea of the tried and true old technology even if it's a little messier.
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Old 06-22-2012, 03:12 PM   #278
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no. not for now. going to attempt to do it without a jack or ramps, but we will see. clearance is almost as bad as my wife's prius for getting the drain plug out easily with the pan in place.

in the long run, maybe. i know people love the things, but i also like the idea of the tried and true old technology even if it's a little messier.
Let me know how the clearance thing goes, with the car not jacked up. I'm trying to decide between a Fumoto and a top-side oil extractor. My goal is to do oil changes with the car on the ground. If the Fumoto (with a tube connected to the nipple) works, then that would be my first choice. But if there's not enough clearance under the car, then an extractor might be my choice.

With the oil filter on top, doing an oil change without ever touching the ground does have a certain appeal....
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Old 06-22-2012, 03:20 PM   #279
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Let me know how the clearance thing goes, with the car not jacked up. I'm trying to decide between a Fumoto and a top-side oil extractor. My goal is to do oil changes with the car on the ground. If the Fumoto (with a tube connected to the nipple) works, then that would be my first choice. But if there's not enough clearance under the car, then an extractor might be my choice.

With the oil filter on top, doing an oil change without ever touching the ground does have a certain appeal....
there is value in looking at the bottom of the engine and even doing a little cleaning while you are underthere.
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Old 06-22-2012, 03:27 PM   #280
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there is value in looking at the bottom of the engine and even doing a little cleaning while you are underthere.
Understood. I would do that when rotating my tires or doing brake work. I don't think I'd need to do that during oil changes too.
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Old 06-22-2012, 04:43 PM   #281
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Let me know how the clearance thing goes, with the car not jacked up. I'm trying to decide between a Fumoto and a top-side oil extractor. My goal is to do oil changes with the car on the ground. If the Fumoto (with a tube connected to the nipple) works, then that would be my first choice. But if there's not enough clearance under the car, then an extractor might be my choice.

With the oil filter on top, doing an oil change without ever touching the ground does have a certain appeal....
i can tell you right now, that it is possible to change the oil without lifting the car with the following experience/caveat/method:

- break the seal/loosen the drain plug (1/4 turn?) so that you can then loosen by hand.
- place the pan underneath the drain plug
- there should then be enough space to squeeze your hand between the drain plug and pan to "spin" it loose.

i do this all the time with my wife's prius which has less clearance than the Impreza. the downside is there is no easy way to "extract the plug" without making a big mess, so i just spin it and it falls into the drain pan. i then retrieve the drain plug when pouring the oil into jugs for recycling.

i think this is going to be the same issue with the Impreza in my preliminary check of space for me to put my hand between the pan. there is more clearance than the prius, but not that much more. one thing i'll try this weekend is to drive onto 2x4s to get an extra 1.6" which i think may be enough which is a cheap/easy solution to get myself enough clearance for my hand to loosen the bolt and pull it off without having it fall into the drain pan.
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Old 06-22-2012, 05:52 PM   #282
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I hate to be blunt but it appears you are a very naive person. You've made numerous calls to SOA and to more than one dealer so your story is out there. I use the word "naive" because the fact that your story is so well known makes your stories on here very easy to find. You can bet that SOA and at least one of the dealers (and/or their regional offices) have memberships on this forum. When you talk crap about them and highlight what they most likely consider vehicle abuse they know about it and will be able to link your stories to your reports and will be able to find your name. With that in mind it doesn't matter how tactful you appear in phone conversations to them they already have you flagged as a problem customer.

I hope you are able to get the problems worked out and hope you're happy with Audi if you take that route. I really hope you come to realize that actions (I.e. slander posts and self reported vehicle abuses) have more potential to hurt you than to help you and can/will be used against you if the slandered individuls choose to use them.
Yeah, he's getting worked up and maybe making too big a deal out of an undocumented issue, but him posting it umpteenth times here, as well as telling how he drove it hard isn't going to be officially noted (I think the timing is curious though, between hard drive and faulty sensor, which is what it sounds like to me). It may be on someone's mind at the dealership, but I think SOA wouldn't blacklist him or void his warranty for admitting to driving like a dweeb from the coast. We've all done that i'm sure. I don't even think they could legally hold it against him for operating the vehicle within its design parameters. I also think that accusing him of slander for talking about the dealership giving him crap service is the same as the dealership inviting him to fill out a survey, then blacklisting him for a poor review. Like on Amazon, when I try to leave low marks I have to go through a rigamorale about contacting the vender to see if we can reach an understanding. WTF: I didn't like the service and I'm providing a review not for the vendor's satisfaction, but to publicly warn other customers that this seller has the potential to suck. I don't have to give the seller any benefit of the doubt if I don't want. I am not obligated, the way some ebay vendors write in their listings, to give five star marks if I feel I was treated poorly, nor do I have any obligation to let the dealer try again. That's putting too much responsibility for a vendor's service on the customer. The dealership, too, should just take it like a man, and make it right with 79, regardless of the burden. Refund his money, get him a cab to (eeeww) Audi. Car dealers too put too much emphasis on their reviews. I think if they don't like the reviews they deserve, they should change their behavior, not say a customer is unreasonable. But 79, you do need to chill, dude. We don't know what you may have actually written on that survey, that in hindsight you may regret, and we don't know how squeaky your cog has been (ie. squeaky cog gets the grease?). I think it sounds like forces are distancing themselves from you because you're too outspoken. It has been suggested in this thread, and elsewhere apparently, that diplomacy on your part, at least until the problems are documented, will aid your cause. But I don't have a huge investment like a car pissing me off, like you do. Take a deep breath. Believe it all works out if you let it. SOA could give F-all about screwing you over, so it'll end well, if you let it. Good luck.
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Old 06-22-2012, 06:27 PM   #283
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I think that what ammo_umb was inferring is that without too much effort the user name on a forum and be tied to an actual person. I wonder what the RPM's were when the car hit 130MPH. Above, at, or under red-line? I'm not one that will try to replicate his folly - just to satisfy my curiosity.

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Old 06-22-2012, 06:39 PM   #284
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I was stationed in Europe for a total of 7 years and lived there for another 3 so I feel confident in saying that European cars aren't the answer to your problems. Most European cars use small displacement engines (you don't need a big engine to go fast) with low compression. They do this for a reason, if you want good fuel economy and want to be able to keep up on the autobahn/autostrada your engine is going to have to be able to rev high for long periods of time. Low compression (aka loose) engines used allow them to do this because they rev high and don't generate as much heat. High compression engines create more friction because of tight cylinder/ring clearances and can't rev as high and create more heat.

If you want to go to Audi then go for it but don't be surprised if it also drinks oil...

As far as SOA using your posts about driving at high speeds against you goes it could happen. If tests prove that your engine needs to be replaced and they want to get in depth information about why your engine failed they could look at what whether or not your high speed run could have caused or contributed to the failure. They would have to prove it beyond reasonable doubt but they may try and may be successful.

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Old 06-22-2012, 06:49 PM   #285
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They didn't do anything more than check the oil level , which I could have done myself , but it all has to be documented. They will fully drain the system to get a more accurate reading at the end of the 3 1200 mile cycles. If they have to top off the oil at anytime. That is noted on the paper work. I was just saying 5qt in the sense that the stick still read full. I don't know about the dipstick being incorrect but I think there's an issue with the sensor. Time will tell
Furiousd, glad to hear no sign of oc yet, knock on wood.
Thank you for sharing and keep us updated.
I wonder who was the third unusual OC and what's going on with his vehicle.
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Old 06-22-2012, 07:10 PM   #286
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Wasn't redlined. I didn't have THIRTY miles of road. More like 15.
I haven't slandered anyone if all I've done is state what has happened. Its not like I've said they're sacrificing babies to beelzebub.
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Old 06-22-2012, 07:23 PM   #287
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Furiousd, glad to hear no sign of oc yet, knock on wood.
Thank you for sharing and keep us updated.
I wonder who was the third unusual OC and what's going on with his vehicle.
There would have to be 2 more. I never voted in that poll
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:12 PM   #288
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There would have to be 2 more. I never voted in that poll
I didnt vote either because i cant be sure if i am or am not consuming oil beyond the break in point. I wouldnt want to post in several places stating that i am and then go to the dealership complaining about a problem that could possibly not exist. Who knows what that would do. Asking for test and having them waste peoples precious time all because i was assuming the worst case scenario
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I didnt vote either because i cant be sure if i am or am not consuming oil beyond the break in point. I wouldnt want to post in several places stating that i am and then go to the dealership complaining about a problem that could possibly not exist. Who knows what that would do. Asking for test and having them waste peoples precious time all because i was assuming the worst case scenario
It would probably get you black balled at the dealer and put on SOA's ****list!
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:28 PM   #290
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They would have to prove it beyond reasonable doubt but they may try and may be successful.
I have to believe this data is stored in the car's computer memory, kind of like a plane's black box.
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:07 PM   #291
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Do they sell this car in Germany?? What if one of these frail, fragile, poor little cars was driven on the Autobahn?? 130 for a ten seconds isn't going to hurt anything. God forbid anyone ever try a 1/4 mile pass in one! Racing the car and repeated hard use would count as severe, but going fast isn't abusing your car.
Some guy earlier mentioned his S2000 doing 133. Did that car burn oil?
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Ahhhhhhhhhh, what a nice place Mastro Subaru is! Like night and day compared to the ever-changing staff at my local dealer. They gave me a beautiful new OB as a loaner, and are going to address all the issues. Turns out they get a lot of folks from other dealers, who want QUALITY service. I just wish I'd went to Mastro sooner, but soa insisted upon resolving it at BB.

I finally got up close and looked at a new BRZ. Wow what a sweet little coupe.
And wow- what a professional and coureous staff at Mastro! Very very helpful!!!!
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Ahhhhhhhhhh, what a nice place Mastro Subaru is! Like night and day compared to the ever-changing staff at my local dealer. They gave me a beautiful new OB as a loaner, and are going to address all the issues. Turns out they get a lot of folks from other dealers, who want QUALITY service. I just wish I'd went to Mastro sooner, but soa insisted upon resolving it at BB.

I finally got up close and looked at a new BRZ. Wow what a sweet little coupe.
And wow- what a professional and coureous staff at Mastro! Very very helpful!!!!
Great to hear. Keep us posted on everything.
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Ahhhhhhhhhh, what a nice place Mastro Subaru is! Like night and day compared to the ever-changing staff at my local dealer. They gave me a beautiful new OB as a loaner, and are going to address all the issues. Turns out they get a lot of folks from other dealers, who want QUALITY service. I just wish I'd went to Mastro sooner, but soa insisted upon resolving it at BB.

I finally got up close and looked at a new BRZ. Wow what a sweet little coupe.
And wow- what a professional and coureous staff at Mastro! Very very helpful!!!!
Awesome! I bought my Impreza from a further dealer because of their customer-oriented staff. After my VW grief, I was willing to travel to get that.

Good luck!
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Do they sell this car in Germany?? What if one of these frail, fragile, poor little cars was driven on the Autobahn?? 130 for a ten seconds isn't going to hurt anything. God forbid anyone ever try a 1/4 mile pass in one! Racing the car and repeated hard use would count as severe, but going fast isn't abusing your car.
Some guy earlier mentioned his S2000 doing 133. Did that car burn oil?
I doubt you blew your motor at 130, especially if you weren't redlining. I think you'll discover (totally uninformed, here, but...) nothing's wrong with the car (knock on wood). There's no way in hell Subaru could identify someone's complaint in these forums, unless, of course, you were the only car bought at the dealer, but then there is no legally binding way they could hold what was said on a forum against you, given the inherently anonymous nature of forums, and the incredibly prohibitive legal costs of subpoenaing NASIOC records, the dealership, 79's IP, etc, etc. They'll replace his sensor. 20k miles from now, he'll be rolling around with no worries. We do know however, that Veronica from BB did drop in to essentially warn us all that dealerships watch what's said about them. Still nothing they can do, except observe the rules of servicing a car they sold. Personally, I would never buy a new car, unless it could be easily serviced. 79 bought his at the only Subaru dealership around, and that's his decision, which in hindsight wasn't a good one. The autobahn/autostrada systems in Europe don't demand you go fast. In fact, a fun feature of driving in Germany, for instance, is sitting in a right-hand lane and not only watching, but sensing FAST cars coming up behind you in the left lane then flying by. Most stretches of the freeways are in fact speed regulated, and while 150 seems fast, it's KPH, not MPH. Generally you're going the same speed as here in the States. Autobahn driving is overrated and overstated, I think.
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Ahhhhhhhhhh, what a nice place Mastro Subaru is! Like night and day compared to the ever-changing staff at my local dealer. They gave me a beautiful new OB as a loaner, and are going to address all the issues. Turns out they get a lot of folks from other dealers, who want QUALITY service. I just wish I'd went to Mastro sooner, but soa insisted upon resolving it at BB.

I finally got up close and looked at a new BRZ. Wow what a sweet little coupe.
And wow- what a professional and coureous staff at Mastro! Very very helpful!!!!
Good luck! Hopefully everything gets dealt with and you can go back to loving the car like you did when you first got it.
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I have german friends and when I visited there, I think I remember germany having speeds posted in mph. Anyhow, I remember riding in LOTS of cool little cars we can't get here. My friend Bianca, well she topped out her VW Lupo on the Autobahn, and I remember lots of folks haulling butt on it . All I'm sayin is I can't be the only one who's driven a 2012 impreza north of 100. But like I said 99.9% of my driving is under 60 mph. There isn't anywhere I know of in my county that has a speed limit higher than 55.
That ride back from the beach was literally about 65 miles, 10 or so of which are essentially flat and straight and almost zero potential for a ticket.
Damn it feels good to have my car in good hands. And Mastro WANTS to do an oil consumtpion test next oil change!! Ahhhhhh, now time to enjoy a weekend of rainy relaxing weather.
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79,
Good to hear that you finally got your car to a service dept that you have more confidence in, I hope it all works out for you!

Please note that my previous posts were more advice than anything. In todays society anything you say can be used against you and writing something could be used as well. I was simply trying to get you to comprehend the fact that people in general will treat you with the same respect (or disrespect) that you display to them. It's tough to be a nice guy when the fecal particles are hitting the oscillating vanes but it will usually get you farther than shutting the people you are communicating with down with displays of negative emotions.

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The autobahn/autostrada systems in Europe don't demand you go fast. In fact, a fun feature of driving in Germany, for instance, is sitting in a right-hand lane and not only watching, but sensing FAST cars coming up behind you in the left lane then flying by. Most stretches of the freeways are in fact speed regulated, and while 150 seems fast, it's KPH, not MPH. Generally you're going the same speed as here in the States. Autobahn driving is overrated and overstated, I think.
I've ridden on the autobahn from "West Germany" to Berlin (in a relatively new diesel Golf), and in the unregulated stretches what I saw were most cars driving between 100-120 kph which works out to 62-75mph.

In the 'fast lane' an occasional BMW or Mercedes would jet by going 100mph+, but otherwise it was not much different than a typical american highway.

Although Americans would love to pretend otherwise, people driving average cars don't normally drive 100mph+ on the autobahn any more than they do in the states. Certainly most drivers in small 4 cylinder cars were not driving 100mph+ for long stretches.

You'll need a better excuse if you think the 2.0i should be considered an autobahn passing car or should be driven 130mph. You may need friends in law enforcement, also.
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