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Old 03-10-2013, 06:21 AM   #3051
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Oh, yes! Buy an audi! PLEASE buy an audi!!!

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So, a car that burns oil sucks. especially when the seats are lame and uncomfortable.
The Audi owner reports that his car doesnt burn oil. My ass confirmed the seats dont sound like a broken recliner and they were actually comfy and supportive.
Wow man, thats so laughable. Especially since the Audi has almost 80,000 miles on it. A 2.0 Turbo and 6 speed are pretty sweet too.
ESPECIALLY AFTER OWNING THIS LAME ASS CAR.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:23 AM   #3052
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So, a car that burns oil sucks. especially when the seats are lame and uncomfortable.
The Audi owner reports that his car doesnt burn oil. My ass confirmed the seats dont sound like a broken recliner and they were actually comfy and supportive.
Wow man, thats so laughable. Especially since the Audi has almost 80,000 miles on it. A 2.0 Turbo and 6 speed are pretty sweet too.
ESPECIALLY AFTER OWNING THIS LAME ASS CAR.
Our vw goes through 2-3qts of oil every interval (10k) miles. And that oil is much more expensive than the oil for the Subaru. I havent seen many newer vw gas engines that don't use oil, especially the turbo models, but they have a shorter interval
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:36 AM   #3053
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So, a car that burns oil sucks. especially when the seats are lame and uncomfortable.
The Audi owner reports that his car doesnt burn oil. My ass confirmed the seats dont sound like a broken recliner and they were actually comfy and supportive.
Wow man, thats so laughable. Especially since the Audi has almost 80,000 miles on it. A 2.0 Turbo and 6 speed are pretty sweet too.
ESPECIALLY AFTER OWNING THIS LAME ASS CAR.
What is your point? I can point out the majority of people that own an Impreza that DO NOT have oil consumption problems, and that DO NOT have a broken recliner, that DO think the seats are "comfy and supportive". Are you going to tell anyone to buy an Impreza?

Again, go buy an Audi or VW despite what the owners have gone through issues like you have. Oh wait, you're not going to buy another car right?
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:10 PM   #3054
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Im not alone in my believing the new Impreza is overly-hyped, and has qc standards that are spotty.
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:08 PM   #3055
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Im not alone in my believing the new Impreza is overly-hyped, and has qc standards that are spotty.
Every car is going to have units that have problems, I'm not going to argue that. Your car has some problems which we can all agree with. However what I don't agree with and most car publications don't either is that the car is overly hyped and bad quality (or lack of proper QC). You are basing your experience and the experience of a select few as the status quo, which is not accurate.

I do agree that the MPGs are not as easily achieved with normal driving, however the same is true for my two previous STI's and with many other manufacturers. Not that different from the "norm".
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:11 PM   #3056
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Well I'm not saying that ALL Imprezas suck. But mine sucks, and badly enough that it makes a non-oil-burning-anything seem more appealing.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:18 PM   #3057
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Well I'm not saying that ALL Imprezas suck. But mine sucks, and badly enough that it makes a non-oil-burning-anything seem more appealing.
Understood. I would be pissed if I was consuming at that rate as well. Even though you would be taking a loss on your car, I would still sell it (or trade) if I were you. You seem to be emotionally vested in this car and it isn't worth your health to be so upset about it. Since it appears you may not be meeting the threshold for short block repair, where does that leave you? Even more pissed with a car you don't like. And at that point you will have lost more in depreciation. Basically what I'm getting at is there is a good chance that you will be stuck with this car in it's current state.
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But I took a loss driving it off the lot. I'll at least keep it till the "warranty" is up.

I still havent heard anyone comment on my question about trading for a 2011 similarly equipped.
I'd start a new thread but it would probably just turn into another flame-fest.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:28 PM   #3059
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Understood. I would be pissed if I was consuming at that rate as well. Even though you would be taking a loss on your car, I would still sell it (or trade) if I were you. You seem to be emotionally vested in this car and it isn't worth your health to be so upset about it. Since it appears you may not be meeting the threshold for short block repair, where does that leave you? Even more pissed with a car you don't like. And at that point you will have lost more in depreciation. Basically what I'm getting at is there is a good chance that you will be stuck with this car in it's current state.
The fact that you and so many others are happy and not burning appreciable amounts of oil is another reason I feel so cheated by subaru.
I wanted a new subaru since I started driving. I never owned one because we never had a local dealed and used prices seemed pretty high. In other words, I always wanted one but put it off until my 30's when I can financially handle paying 20k+ for a set of wheels...
It really was/is a letdown. I am a huge fan of Japanese products and even their culture.
I'm such a believer in Japanese made stuff my banjo is even made by the J.A.Pan corporation!
Kawasaki always treated me well, as has Honda. Although I quit caring about Hondas after the 2000's.
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But I took a loss driving it off the lot. I'll at least keep it till the "warranty" is up.

I still havent heard anyone comment on my question about trading for a 2011 similarly equipped.
I'd start a new thread but it would probably just turn into another flame-fest.
The fit and finish of the '11- definitely feels older than the current style. You will have a little bit more grunt than you do with the FB20. I have a friend that has a 2008 Impreza. He is pretty happy with it and hasn't mentioned any glaring issues. I would start by searching NASIOC to see if there are similar consumption problems before doing anything. If you happen to get one that has it, you'll be back to square one.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:35 PM   #3061
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Thats the dilemma. I've got the new-and-improved wonder car, onlu mine has a defective heart, so I don't have that nice "new" car feeling. I basically got one thats not "as good" as yours.
I *really* love the awd.
So maybe an "older" feeling sube is what I need. But man would I ever hate it if it burnt oil.
Fool me once...
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:44 PM   #3062
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I do loathe the fast-and-furious tailights on the '11's bit damn man, I could totally live with that.
Well, starting a consumption test sometime very soon. Hopefully we'll get a major record heatwave and it'll burn up the stuff fast enough. If nothing else, I'll have verified some appreciable amount of consumption and have it on record.
I had to use m1 the last time i topped it off and its been seemingly burning a wee bit slower.
Maybe I'll try out m1 the next time around. Afterall, these arent turbo fj's.
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:12 PM   #3063
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Maybe, after you start your oil consumption test, you should accomplish a few more 120+ MPH romps. That should get the "juices" flowing.

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Old 03-10-2013, 08:13 PM   #3064
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So, a car that burns oil sucks. especially when the seats are lame and uncomfortable.
The Audi owner reports that his car doesnt burn oil. My ass confirmed the seats dont sound like a broken recliner and they were actually comfy and supportive.
Wow man, thats so laughable. Especially since the Audi has almost 80,000 miles on it. A 2.0 Turbo and 6 speed are pretty sweet too.
ESPECIALLY AFTER OWNING THIS LAME ASS CAR.

I wish I could have sold you my A4. That's ok. You'll find out!
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:39 AM   #3065
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No, I won't. I WAS MERELY COMME.TING ON ANOTHER CAR. GET OVER IT.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:43 AM   #3066
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Maybe, after you start your oil consumption test, you should accomplish a few more 120+ MPH romps. That should get the "juices" flowing.

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Highway speeds dont increase the oil consumption. I did a good 110 on the turnpike and it didnt cause any oil lights or drop on the dipstick.
It almost seems like going along in 4th gear at 40mph hypermiling is where it uses the most oil
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:46 AM   #3067
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Another thing that could cause excessive oil loss is a lot of idling, that wouldnt add any mileage to the car but would be using the engine...
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:09 AM   #3068
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I did let SOA know that if I'd known that I was going to be buying an oil-consuming (at $10/qt) rattling seat squeaking ride, I would have saved a ton of money and bought a KIA. I told them that I bought the Sube based on its brand reputation for quality cars that last and retain value. I really don't see this '12 lasting the way the older subes did. My granny's GL wagon went 400k. It ratled and squeaked but she only paid $900 for it.
Seriously though- do any of you ofther 2012 impreza owners have any oil issues???
Hi 79letour, I'm brand-new here..and a brand-new Subaru 'convert' let's say. I'm following your post as it's just like what I'm going through, however, I have not been to the dealer yet. I'm in Canada - Ontario (north of Toronto) and I do mainly highway driving, no major accelaration etc...and when I read your commentary, this is what the dealer said to me from the Maple dealership. In fact, my light comes on only when I am driving then it resets itself. The service mgr said to top it up! and well, I've had to do a bit from time to time, but it's a new vehicle I picked it up in December 2012! light came on as i was driving. Anyway, I curious too..I think it could be a bad sensor.
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If youre having to add oil, its no sensor. Welcome to the oil- burning club, man!
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:02 PM   #3070
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clarification did you check oil level when you got the light or did you just add oil?
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:04 PM   #3071
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Right there with you on this one. First it was the master cylinder. Then it was a recall on something to do with the car's computer programming (ended up getting worse gas milage afterwards) and now it is jumping through hoops trying to get the dealer to 'fix' the oil comsumption issue.

Simply can not believe Subaru is not willing to fix my vehicle. Never in my life have I purchased a brand new car only to have it use/leak/burn oil before I hit 150-200k miles. This will be my FIRST and LAST Subaru.

I am a real estate agent - can you imagine how good this is going to look as I pull into a gas station with clients in my vehicle and tell them they have to wait while I check the oil and put a quart in?

Yeah, right. Now THAT'S a dependable mode of tranportation.

Have requested a meeting with the CUMBERLAND VALLEY MOTOR'S General manager and a SOA rep.

Anyone want to buy a 2012 Subara Impreza with 24k miles on it?
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Right there with you on this one. First it was the master cylinder. Then it was a recall on something to do with the car's computer programming (ended up getting worse gas milage afterwards) and now it is jumping through hoops trying to get the dealer to 'fix' the oil comsumption issue.

Simply can not believe Subaru is not willing to fix my vehicle. Never in my life have I purchased a brand new car only to have it use/leak/burn oil before I hit 150-200k miles. This will be my FIRST and LAST Subaru.

I am a real estate agent - can you imagine how good this is going to look as I pull into a gas station with clients in my vehicle and tell them they have to wait while I check the oil and put a quart in?

Yeah, right. Now THAT'S a dependable mode of tranportation.

Have requested a meeting with the CUMBERLAND VALLEY MOTOR'S General manager and a SOA rep.

Anyone want to buy a 2012 Subara Impreza with 24k miles on it?
I wouldnt think too much of my real estate agent getting gas on my time. Couldnt you have done that before i was in the car?
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Right there with you on this one. First it was the master cylinder. Then it was a recall on something to do with the car's computer programming (ended up getting worse gas milage afterwards) and now it is jumping through hoops trying to get the dealer to 'fix' the oil comsumption issue.

Simply can not believe Subaru is not willing to fix my vehicle. Never in my life have I purchased a brand new car only to have it use/leak/burn oil before I hit 150-200k miles. This will be my FIRST and LAST Subaru.

I am a real estate agent - can you imagine how good this is going to look as I pull into a gas station with clients in my vehicle and tell them they have to wait while I check the oil and put a quart in?

Yeah, right. Now THAT'S a dependable mode of tranportation.

Have requested a meeting with the CUMBERLAND VALLEY MOTOR'S General manager and a SOA rep.

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What us your oil consumption rate?
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I'm anxious to hear if anyone with a replaced shortblock ends up with the same oil consumption...

Sandra- welcome to the dissatisfied owners club.
I was promised a meeting with as soa rep and a dealer rep. It never materialized. Not on my account though, SOA adamantly hides behind their consumption allowances. Even a couple lawyers I've talked to say thats a real bitch of a move by the manufacturer to write it in that its normal to burn up to 1.1 quarts every 1200 miles in any fb-engine sube. Thanks god I dont have a BRZ thats burning oil, as they are "normal and acceptable" to burn 1.1 quarts every 600 miles.
There must be quite a few of us oil drinkers, or I'd think they'd be a lot more proactive in replacing/fixing.
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Right there with you on this one. First it was the master cylinder. Then it was a recall on something to do with the car's computer programming (ended up getting worse gas milage afterwards) and now it is jumping through hoops trying to get the dealer to 'fix' the oil comsumption issue.

Simply can not believe Subaru is not willing to fix my vehicle. Never in my life have I purchased a brand new car only to have it use/leak/burn oil before I hit 150-200k miles. This will be my FIRST and LAST Subaru.

I am a real estate agent - can you imagine how good this is going to look as I pull into a gas station with clients in my vehicle and tell them they have to wait while I check the oil and put a quart in?

Yeah, right. Now THAT'S a dependable mode of tranportation.

Have requested a meeting with the CUMBERLAND VALLEY MOTOR'S General manager and a SOA rep.

Anyone want to buy a 2012 Subara Impreza with 24k miles on it?
I have gotten a few odd looks and even a comment or two from onlookers at the gas station when I check the oil and coolant levels. It definitely kills the "new car" quality feeling when you have the realization that your new $20k+ car burns oil at a very appreciable rate.
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