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Old 04-11-2013, 09:33 AM   #3451
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Why is there so much vitriol towards 79letour? Anyone else in his shoes would most likely be pissed the $#@# off as well, having spent your hard-earned money on a car to only have a pretty major defect
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:49 AM   #3452
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Thats YOUR conspiracy theory. I never said any numbers, only speculated based on empirical data.
And your mental illness is pretty obvious. obsessive with a superiority complex.
Ypu reming me of the dude in One Hour Photo... Only as a wannabe internet bully.
Here is the thing about numbers: when you write that 14-18% are probably burning oil (This was your guess, based upon 14 people responding on a poll of less than 100 NASIOC members that their car may be consuming oil), it does not take a math degree to figure out that if there are ~85,000 Imprezas on the road your guess means you think that 10,000-15,000 are burning oil.

This poll, by the way, that reached a whopping .12% of Impreza owners, making it statistically insignificant.

I call that exaggeration, and you immediately start in with ad hominem attacks.

Your theory about Consumer Reports is on this thread, you cannot erase it from memory just because it makes you look foolish. You tripled down on it, and spent a day trying to discredit Consumer Reports.

If you cannot remember any of this, you can go back and read your own posts. Maybe you should get high first, it will make it all seem even funnier!
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:59 AM   #3453
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You answered your own question...
"Sheeple" is the key word. And after they recommended it so highly, I really doubt theyre going to go out of their way to tell people it burns oil after so highly endorsing it and causing hard working joes to spend their money on it.
Had to go way back in time to dredge this up (a whole couple of weeks)

Please tell me you still believe Consumer Reports is hiding their knowledge of widespread oil consumption, and recommended the car as a top pick for a second year in a row (despite their test car oil light coming on), to cover it up...
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:25 AM   #3454
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Why do pay any creedence to a publication that doesn't think its odd to add oil to their car.
I never made any claim that the poll was scientific. I didnt start the god damned thing. All I did was point to it.
Why else is it there?
Go attack the guy who made it...
Angelus- thanks, I know Ive shown folks this thread and they seem to echo your thoughts
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:29 AM   #3455
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Here is the thing about numbers: when you write that 14-18% are probably burning oil (This was your guess, based upon 14 people responding on a poll of less than 100 NASIOC members that their car may be consuming oil), it does not take a math degree to figure out that if there are ~85,000 Imprezas on the road your guess means you think that 10,000-15,000 are burning oil.

This poll, by the way, that reached a whopping .12% of Impreza owners, making it statistically insignificant.

I call that exaggeration, and you immediately start in with ad hominem attacks.

Your theory about Consumer Reports is on this thread, you cannot erase it from memory just because it makes you look foolish. You tripled down on it, and spent a day trying to discredit Consumer Reports.

If you cannot remember any of this, you can go back and read your own posts. Maybe you should get high first, it will make it all seem even funnier!
Maybe YOU should get "high", as you take yourself way to seriously, and you need a break- the constant 79letour vigilance has to wear on you after 12-18 solid months
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:40 AM   #3456
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Why do pay any creedence to a publication that doesn't think its odd to add oil to their car.
I never made any claim that the poll was scientific. I didnt start the god damned thing. All I did was point to it.
Why else is it there?
Go attack the guy who made it...
Angelus- thanks, I know Ive shown folks this thread and they seem to echo your thoughts
Because it isn't odd to add oil to an engine....it is odd to add 1qt per 1200 miles. But 1 qt per 2500? Change your interval, did you ever get a UOA done to see if maybe you should be following the severe service schedule?
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:47 AM   #3457
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I do.t have to follow up the severe- Ive never had oil in there more than like 5000 miles.
I don't want to argue, man, its just that us oil burners typically don't really care if the manual says burning any appreciable amount is normal.
We know we have to burn x amount.
Much of the conversation between AFFECTED owners is about oil consumption allowances.
The SAE determines that a quart per 1000 is ok. I wpuld love to find out when and how and why that figure was reached.
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:49 PM   #3458
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Why is there so much vitriol towards 79letour? Anyone else in his shoes would most likely be pissed the $#@# off as well, having spent your hard-earned money on a car to only have a pretty major defect
If others were in his shoes they would have traded the car in or shown a little more interest in investigating the issue at hand, Rather he comes here to complain and argue with little effort towards a real resolution.
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Old 04-11-2013, 01:25 PM   #3459
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I do.t have to follow up the severe- Ive never had oil in there more than like 5000 miles.
I don't want to argue, man, its just that us oil burners typically don't really care if the manual says burning any appreciable amount is normal.
We know we have to burn x amount.
Much of the conversation between AFFECTED owners is about oil consumption allowances.
The SAE determines that a quart per 1000 is ok. I wpuld love to find out when and how and why that figure was reached.
Great, but what have you done personally other than bitch and moan about it?
UOA?
Compression test?
Leakdown test?

I'm not denying the fact that your car is burning/has disappearing oil, but until you do something other than bitch, really no one will care. And at this point I'm not sure anyone will care after all your semantics.

/honest truth

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Old 04-11-2013, 02:00 PM   #3460
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Well. Everything I've done has been well documented and discussed.
Do I need a top of page caption that summarizes every thing I have done and the total failure by soa and bill bryan?
You all know very well that I'm due for a consumption test this summer.
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Old 04-11-2013, 02:10 PM   #3461
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Well. Everything I've done has been well documented and discussed.
Do I need a top of page caption that summarizes every thing I have done and the total failure by soa and bill bryan?
You all know very well that I'm due for a consumption test this summer.
You know my father used to make a list of everything he was going to do that day. My Step mother thought that she would make a list and be as productive but all that list did was show that she really didnt do much.

I have a feeling thats why you wont list what you have done.

I think the list would go like this?

-Take to dealership Get banned from said dealership
-Take to other dealership and bring doughnuts: No real resolution they filled oil to high
-Tried slightly Higher weight oil 5w-30?


The big ones
No compression test
No Oil analysis test
No Leak down test
No dealer done oil consumption test

So anything that would yield useful results hasnt been done.
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:48 PM   #3462
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Well. Everything I've done has been well documented and discussed.
Do I need a top of page caption that summarizes every thing I have done and the total failure by soa and bill bryan?
You all know very well that I'm due for a consumption test this summer.
So either do more testing, document and bring it yourself to SOA, or quit bitching and just update once your consumption test begins.

Anything else you post doesn't make you look better

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Old 04-11-2013, 07:55 PM   #3463
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Well. Everything I've done has been well documented and discussed.
Do I need a top of page caption that summarizes every thing I have done and the total failure by soa and bill bryan?
You all know very well that I'm due for a consumption test this summer.
Consumption test this summer? You call me a liar? You can't even keep your story straight. Again sht or get off the pot.

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I'm starting a consumption test in the next week or so.
Thing is, at 20k++, I put a half quart in two thousand miles ago, and havent lost any yet, so I'm losing confidence that I'll burn "enough''.
And as much as I'd love to, I am not going to be beating the piss out of the car to try and make it burn enough. That might prove to be a bad idea. Besides, theres no guarantee the new shortblock will solve it, and then I will have spent all kinds of time driving to dealers jumping through hoops...
I'm hoping Mastro will have a clean low-mile 5mt 2011 sitting in their used lot, and maybe I'll drive it and see how the seats feel. and how badly it rattles. I have driven a Honda CRX before. and those cars really rattle. But my 2012 Impreza "lol premium" is seriously a loud rattly car.
Will look at the rear hatch this afternoon, Been going over the car this week, cleaning here and there and just keeping it up...
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:09 PM   #3464
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Problem with getting an oil consumption test is that you need a willing dealership. If the dealership believes that they are working with a total a/h, then they may not be very receptive. I haven't seen Rexygirl (maybe misspelled that) around in a while and she was willing to help him out.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:09 PM   #3465
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You guys are hilarious...
What a bunch of lifeless pricks.


BEEN WAITING FOR THE TEMPS TO HIT THE 80'S, AND YOUE HOLY REXYGIRL KNOWS I'M COMING IN, AGAIN WITH DONITS, FOR A CONSUMPTION TEST. I CAN TAKE IT IN ANY TIME BUT I'M ONLY GONNA GET ONE FREE ONE SO I'M LETTING IT WARM UP A BIT.
ST- YOU ARE A TRUTH DISTORTER AND PASSIVE/ACTIVE AGGRESSIVE AGGITATOR WHO DECEITFULLY PRETENDS TO FORGET OFT-SPOKEN TOPICS OF DISCUSSION.
THE ****ING DEALER IS A LONG DRIVE- AND I DO WORK A LOT SO F-OFF IF YOU DON'T LIKE OWNERS TALKING ABOUT SOA'S LESS THAN ACCEPTABLE ANSWERS TO OUR LEGITIMATE CONCEARNS.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:26 PM   #3466
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yeah, grrr, I'm an internet tough guy, grrr.

Keep digging, at this point I don't think anyone gives a **** about you or your car.

If you aren't financially able to sell it at a loss. Perhaps you shouldn't have bought such an expensive car in the first place...it's called living within your means. Yes burning oil sucks, but you don't want to do anything that can help you find a solution.

Carry on

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Old 04-12-2013, 12:21 AM   #3467
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You guys are hilarious...
What a bunch of lifeless pricks.


BEEN WAITING FOR THE TEMPS TO HIT THE 80'S, AND YOUE HOLY REXYGIRL KNOWS I'M COMING IN, AGAIN WITH DONITS, FOR A CONSUMPTION TEST. I CAN TAKE IT IN ANY TIME BUT I'M ONLY GONNA GET ONE FREE ONE SO I'M LETTING IT WARM UP A BIT.
ST- YOU ARE A TRUTH DISTORTER AND PASSIVE/ACTIVE AGGRESSIVE AGGITATOR WHO DECEITFULLY PRETENDS TO FORGET OFT-SPOKEN TOPICS OF DISCUSSION.
THE ****ING DEALER IS A LONG DRIVE- AND I DO WORK A LOT SO F-OFF IF YOU DON'T LIKE OWNERS TALKING ABOUT SOA'S LESS THAN ACCEPTABLE ANSWERS TO OUR LEGITIMATE CONCEARNS.
Oh and this post says you scheduled the consumption test already.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...postcount=3227

Looks like you are caught in your lies again! How can I distort your own words? You're such a winner just like the real Charlie Brown!
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:52 AM   #3468
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Paranoid delusional train wreck. It's tragic & messy but you just can't help but to stand by & watch it all unravel.
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Old 04-12-2013, 06:33 AM   #3469
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Paranoid delusional train wreck. It's tragic & messy but you just can't help but to stand by & watch it all unravel.
Which is why I still subscribe to this thread. There is zero good information, 100% pure entertainment
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Old 04-12-2013, 08:56 AM   #3470
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Oh and this post says you scheduled the consumption test already.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...postcount=3227

Looks like you are caught in your lies again! How can I distort your own words? You're such a winner just like the real Charlie Brown!
You go so far out of your wAy to completely distort the truth douchebag.
Without publishing pms and emails with the dealer I'm working with-
I have been in contact with them and was told to bring it in when I CAN GET THE TIME. AND BEING THAT SUMMER IS BASICALLY RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER I WILL WAIT TILL I GET A LITTLE MORE HELP FROM MOTHER NATURE. I STILL HAVE AN APPOINTMENT. AND AN SOA REP HAS TOLD THE DEALER TO DO A PROPER CONSUMPTION TEST AT MY NEX VISIT AT OR BEFORE 24K.
Man what would you spazzy mongos do without this thread to rag on???
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:02 AM   #3471
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yeah, grrr, I'm an internet tough guy, grrr.

Keep digging, at this point I don't think anyone gives a **** about you or your car.

If you aren't financially able to sell it at a loss. Perhaps you shouldn't have bought such an expensive car in the first place...it's called living within your means. Yes burning oil sucks, but you don't want to do anything that can help you find a solution.

Carry on
Douchebag #2- I live well within my means which is none of your business. I certainly dont need a lecture on economics and standard of living from intwrnet smack talkers and trolls.
I own both my houses outright, and people that take financial losses because of emotion-like hating a car- are the people who piss away money and moan when the bank takes back the house.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:06 AM   #3472
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Back to oil consumption, to quote someone on another forum of non-enthusiasts-
" How many people would buy a certain new car if they were told, up front, to expect to add oil every 2,000 miles ?

Also, what does that do to the resale value of these cars. If I were looking a buying this car, used, and the owner informed me about the oil consumption, I'd pass. I wouldn't buy a 5 year old car with 100,000 miles on it that I knew burned that much oil.

What does the future hold for this "normal" car ? Choose one.
*A -**It will use a quart of oil every 2,000 miles, forever ?
*B -**Oil Consumption will progressively get better until it uses hardly any oil ?
*C -**As the car's engine naturally wears, oil consumption will increase.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:18 AM   #3474
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Douchebag #2- I live well within my means which is none of your business. I certainly dont need a lecture on economics and standard of living from intwrnet smack talkers and trolls.
I own both my houses outright, and people that take financial losses because of emotion-like hating a car- are the people who piss away money and moan when the bank takes back the house.
Blah blah blah.

I don't have time nor desire to search for your posts where you claim to own 2 houses outright with no mortgages, but yet can't sell the car for a small loss or come up with a down payment for a replacement if you were to sell. Instead you just bitch and moan and do nothing at all the improve the situation.
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:51 PM   #3475
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No time or desire to search before making derrogatory and/or judgemental remarks about my personal life? No time to look at what youre claiming or insinuating?
But plenty of time to defame and bash a guy for VOICING HIS DISSATISFACTION WITH A $20,000+ PURCHASE.
If it were a crappy pair of shoes- I'd leave them at the donation drop off of a local thrift store.
I wouldnt be the proud owner of a PAID-OFF $250,000 house and a nice little rental house if I made financial decisions based on emotions.
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