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Old 10-05-2013, 11:02 AM   #4201
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Yeah. I'm trying to decide if I'll continue filling w/ 5.3 qts. That's what I've been doing for all of my changes, which has worked well for me.
Same, but I will probably try 5.1.
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:13 PM   #4202
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Yeah. I'm trying to decide if I'll continue filling w/ 5.3 qts. That's what I've been doing for all of my changes, which has worked well for me.
I think I'm just going to change my oil with a 5 quart jug and not even bother with the .1. To me its almost pointless to measure out and add the extra .1 quart. I'm sure being .1 quart low isn't going to harm anything.
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Old 10-05-2013, 07:06 PM   #4203
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I think I'm just going to change my oil with a 5 quart jug and not even bother with the .1. To me its almost pointless to measure out and add the extra .1 quart. I'm sure being .1 quart low isn't going to harm anything.
True, it is only 3oz, or 0.5% less
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:04 AM   #4204
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So I just finished checking the oil level and it's probably close to a quart over filled. I don't know what's so hard about measuring out 5.3 quarts. I'm not too concerned about it at the moment, but I hope they didn't do it on purpose so as to try and hide any potential additional consumption.
Congrats on getting the car back! I've been away a while.
Yes its very VERY annoying that these "highly skilled/trained" "technicians" are so bad at changing oil. They either can't read or they are overfilling on purpose.
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:14 AM   #4205
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I think I'm just going to change my oil with a 5 quart jug and not even bother with the .1. To me its almost pointless to measure out and add the extra .1 quart. I'm sure being .1 quart low isn't going to harm anything.
Me too. I've gone through one extra qt in my first 3 changes so it's hood timing to try 5 qts even.

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Old 10-08-2013, 01:19 PM   #4206
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Good news bad news on the Oceanguy's front - good news is that it failed their oil consumption test and they are ordering the parts for repair. Bad news is it failed their oil consumption test and will take a hit with carfax and the new car purchase experience with Subaru has been marred... We'll see what they offer in the way of an extended warranty or something else. In my situation, the vehicle didn't make it through the first oil fill before needing some added and the consumption increased over time as I suspected it would. I guess that is why you buy things with a warranty in the first place but it sure does suck when you have to use it.
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:24 PM   #4207
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Good news bad news on the Oceanguy's front - good news is that it failed their oil consumption test and they are ordering the parts for repair. Bad news is it failed their oil consumption test and will take a hit with carfax and the new car purchase experience with Subaru has been marred... We'll see what they offer in the way of an extended warranty or something else. In my situation, the vehicle didn't make it through the first oil fill before needing some added and the consumption increased over time as I suspected it would. I guess that is why you buy things with a warranty in the first place but it sure does suck when you have to use it.
That really sucks man. I definitely feel your pain. Hope it doesn't take nearly as long for them to fix you car as it did mine. Also, don't be afraid to ask for some goodwill compensation for your troubles.

On the plus side, my experience in dealing with SOA throughout this whole ordeal has be a positive one. It has given me renewed faith in the Subaru brand and their willingness to keep their customers satisfied.

Hope everything goes well for you. Good luck.
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:50 PM   #4208
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On the plus side, my experience in dealing with SOA throughout this whole ordeal has be a positive one. It has given me renewed faith in the Subaru brand and their willingness to keep their customers satisfied.
Now you see, this is what I like to hear. If you had these problems with most European brands (especially German), you'd be told that the problem is your fault, and that the best solution is to either buy a new car or go eff yourself.
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Old 10-09-2013, 10:20 AM   #4209
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That really sucks man. I definitely feel your pain. Hope it doesn't take nearly as long for them to fix you car as it did mine. Also, don't be afraid to ask for some goodwill compensation for your troubles.

On the plus side, my experience in dealing with SOA throughout this whole ordeal has be a positive one. It has given me renewed faith in the Subaru brand and their willingness to keep their customers satisfied.

Hope everything goes well for you. Good luck.
I hear you - except, I almost hope it does take as long... then it would fall into an automatic lemon situation in PA. It is now an extra car in the household now so we were likely selling so I really wonder how much of a hit it takes. I was not comfortable selling it privately knowing of the issue. Even with the warranty, I wouldn't want to be on the buying end only to go through this. Funny thing is that my wife has loved the car since day one (I mentioned prior her first car was a subie) and now she has fallen out of love. Amazing what happens when you spend countless trips to the dealership with an oil light on will do to you. All in all, I am glad I spoke with the right people to get it resolved. I switched dealerships due to things said to me as if I were a 16 year old kid not knowing the difference between the dip stick and the gear shifter... The new dealership has been very helpful and actually compassionate which can go a long way. When I shopped for it originally, I was so put off by the sales department I went elsewhere - their service department is great though. Something I put so little into the decision because I wrench my own vehicles. I never expected to have to go through this part but so it goes - hopefully, a happy ending.
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Old 10-09-2013, 12:00 PM   #4210
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Hope it all works out for you. One would never expect troubles with a new vehicle. I like to wrench on my own stuff as well, they said I like knowing I have new things too I will not need to wrench on. When that happens I turn sour pretty quick. Should my subie start burning oil, I'm pretty sure I'll be over Subaru pretty quickly.
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Old 10-09-2013, 01:19 PM   #4211
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good news is that it failed their oil consumption test and they are ordering the parts for repair.
Any chance they mentioned what those parts were?
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Old 10-10-2013, 06:14 PM   #4212
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Id bet its the rings. and thats all.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:49 PM   #4213
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Id bet its the rings. and thats all.
It'll prob depend on what they find when they tear into the engine. At least that's what happened in my case.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:19 PM   #4214
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Yeah but they made this new tsb to save from having to actually replace the engines like they did with yours.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:22 PM   #4215
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FWIW statement was made in response to "what parts they ordered".
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:08 PM   #4216
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I just checked my oil after putting about 500 miles on the new engine and the oil level looks to be in the same exact place! Still way too high (about 1 quart over), but good news nonetheless. Hoping this trend continues.

I also want to note that I've been driving a good deal more aggressive then I did when I broke in the original engine. Still not reving over 4000 rpm, but not pussyfooting it like before.
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Old 10-14-2013, 04:41 PM   #4217
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Any chance they mentioned what those parts were?
I was going to call the service manager to have a conversation of the exact plan of action. I have been out of town and busy with a few other things (had a chance to see the PSU Michigan game). I hope to call tomorrow and will be happy to report back. I will request a copy of the TSB but last time I asked a dealership for one, they made up some story that they were unable to... we'll see how it goes and I will reserve judgement.

Forgot to ask for TSB - was told it is just updated rings and is scheduled for the end of the month.

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Old 10-17-2013, 06:15 PM   #4218
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Just checked my oil level after putting 1000 miles on the new engine. It's approximately 1/4 to 1/3 quarts lower then when I checked it after getting it back. I'm not overly concerned at the moment, but a little disappointed. I guess I'll just chock it up to the new parts breaking in and keep a close eye on it.

On the positive side, my mileage has been better than it was before getting the new short block and heads.
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:32 PM   #4219
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Some consumption is normal during break-in. Definitely keep an eye on the level though

Improved mileage sounds like a bonus to me.
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Old 10-18-2013, 06:27 PM   #4220
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Just checked my oil level after putting 1000 miles on the new engine. It's approximately 1/4 to 1/3 quarts lower then when I checked it after getting it back. I'm not overly concerned at the moment, but a little disappointed. I guess I'll just chock it up to the new parts breaking in and keep a close eye on it. On the positive side, my mileage has been better than it was before getting the new short block and heads.
I don't think you should worry too much. When I got my short block replaced I also was down about .4 of a litre in 1000km of driving. I haven't had any consumption since then(3-4 months ago) I would blame it on parts breaking in.
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Old 10-25-2013, 10:04 PM   #4221
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I spent some time today on the phone with my local dealership trying to get some answers about the TSB for the rings. I got some answers, but I am not sure if there are factual as the dealership was starting to get short tempered with me by the end of the call.

All I wanted to know was whether or not my car could be in the group that was effected, and if so, how much oil it had to burn via the TSB standard to get work done if I chose to go that route. They said even with the TSB it is still 1qt in 1000 or 1200 miles, basically what the owners manual says. Again, not certain if this is actually true, but its what they told me.

My car was manufactured 7/12, so according to the TSB my car could qualify (I know it said not all vehicles prior to this date are effected). I gave them the last 8 digits of my vin and they told me my car was not effected by the bad ring problem, although they could not give me any other reason than "thats what it says on the computer". They claimed my car has the updated rings despite its build date. He did mention that there is a certain vin range that is not effected, I cant remember if it starts or finishes with DH025244(last 8 of vin).

Just thought I would share the info I got with anyone who was curious like me. My car is not burning a ton of oil right now, but it is burning some.
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:03 PM   #4222
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Well my low oil light just came on
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13005k to be exact

I use Mobil 1 and a wix filter, I changed my last one at 7500k so not sure why it would consume that much oil.
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Old 10-27-2013, 03:04 PM   #4223
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Well my low oil light just came on
2013 Impreza sport cvt.
13005k to be exact

I use Mobil 1 and a wix filter, I changed my last one at 7500k so not sure why it would consume that much oil.
1qt in 5500 miles? That seems reasonable
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Old 10-27-2013, 03:15 PM   #4224
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I've been changing 3K - 3500K miles using RP and Roki filters. The cars been on the road a lot last couple months traveling, and had 2200 miles on change before trip to Denver. Decided not to change oil, but did change filter ( thanks to the ingenious location of our filters) and now I'm changing at 7286 miles on this oil change ( with filter change at 2200) and I'm not a drip below it was before driving to Denver. I drive it hard sometimes, and elevation runs it harder than I'd normally drive everyday at 1200'. I'm either lucky my car seals well, or fairly hard driving allowed it to really break in. Either way, at 16,XXX miles I've not seen a bit of oil loss.
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Old 10-27-2013, 03:17 PM   #4225
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5.3 is full
And when the light come on I believe it's 3.2
So maybe 2qts.
I did do some heavy mountain driving with about 1,000lbs of extra weight.
So maybe it burned a little more oil.
Just gonna refill it with 2qts and change it in about 1500k
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