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Old 09-21-2012, 10:19 AM   #1226
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I'd LOVE to have a problem-free car. Then I'd be on here discussing mods, and having fun with my car. Its hard to be an enthusiast when the product doesn't live up to the hype.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:33 AM   #1227
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The 11' Forester has the SAME engine. It was the first to get the fb. The Foresters are reportedly burning more than the imprezas. The 2.0 fb is just a sleeved-down version of the Foresters new 2.5.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:53 AM   #1228
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A logical person would realize that if you're being picked on for being a whiner, you should stop whining. Whining more will just get the whiner picked on even more.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:11 AM   #1229
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But I've heard of plenty of instances where people with the outgoing (2.5L) engine are also having oil consumption issues. My friend with a 2011 Forester is going through an oil consumption test right now.
As my above post mentions- that's why I think the problem is bigger. The BRZ can "acceptably" burn a quart in 600 miles.
And on the Toyaota gt86 forum, I read that some fr-s owners are having toyota do consumption tests.
If your 2012 Impreza burns oil, and you start digging, it really looks like there's a bigger problem. These cars have one thing in common- the "f-series" engines.
I'm sure some 2.5 ej owners have oil consumption, but at least theirs can only "acceptably" burn a quart per 3500 miles. Seems suspicious and backward to me.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:28 AM   #1230
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A logical person would realize that if you're being picked on for being a whiner, you should stop whining. Whining more will just get the whiner picked on even more.
Well that doesn't bother me. But when I say "wow these mats are great" and someone responds with personal attacks its just lame. As is people with post counts less than ten casting stones.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:33 AM   #1231
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I still think the problem is the really thin oil. 5w-20 or a 0w-30 would probably work perfectly fine
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:43 AM   #1232
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I agree, but, if I change the viscosity, soa can and will blame it on that.
0w20 is really only made and marketed for fuel economy. Google-ing it brings up a lot of good reading on the subject of THIN oils.
But if *most* of them DON'T burn the 0w20, I want one of THOSE cars!
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:44 AM   #1233
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Just an update - under oil consumption test since last Friday (which was my first service as well).
Just happened to check oil yesterday - it is a good 1/2" ABOVE the high mark. One would assume, when doing a consumption test, that they would fill it to the high mark, no more ?!?!?!


Also - I had never checked the coolant level - yesterday, after it had an hour to cool down, the collant was at the Full mark in the reservoir. Mind you, I did have my service last week. I'll monitor it from now on.

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Old 09-21-2012, 12:30 PM   #1234
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Wow, they really filled that puppy up! Maybe they figured you wouldn't notice any more consumption if they threw in an extra quart.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:37 PM   #1235
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Indeed... I just find that dishonest. Tempting to be as dishonest as they are... (no I won't go that way)
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:47 PM   #1236
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Just an update - under oil consumption test since last Friday (which was my first service as well).
Just happened to check oil yesterday - it is a good 1/2" ABOVE the high mark. One would assume, when doing a consumption test, that they would fill it to the high mark, no more ?!?!?!


Also - I had never checked the coolant level - yesterday, after it had an hour to cool down, the collant was at the Full mark in the reservoir. Mind you, I did have my service last week. I'll monitor it from now on.

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Full mark when cold. check it when you havent driven the car in 3-4 hours. Mine does that too and then its exactly at the full mark when i do it when cold.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:51 PM   #1237
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I still think I'm going to try a 0W-30 for my next oil change. Although Subaru says that the engine was designed specifically for 0W-20 use only, I highly doubt it will cause any harm. If it helps slow the rate of consumption, then I'll be more satisfied than I am now.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:57 PM   #1238
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Full mark when cold. check it when you havent driven the car in 3-4 hours. Mine does that too and then its exactly at the full mark when i do it when cold.
I've never seen my level even close to that high even when I've checked when full and hot. As a matter of fact, I don't recall there even being a difference in my dipstick readings between the engine being hot or cold.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:59 PM   #1239
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Yes, we are all gonna die, DIE I SAY...

If oil burning were more prevalent, more than two or three people would be here posting about it affecting their car. I guess no one else is getting the light, so even if they don't open the hood, it does not seem to be happening?

Puzzling, as you think and exclaim constantly how it is a design or engineering flaw...

Nice theory, though.

Good luck with your Class Action Lawsuit (you discussed hoping that happening somewhere during your 5,000 redundant posts on this thread)...

Orly Taitz is tied up in Kansas (I think), but will probably be available in a couple of weeks.
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:03 PM   #1240
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Yes, we are all gonna die, DIE I SAY...

If oil burning were more prevalent, more than two or three people would be here posting about it.

Nice theory, though. Good luck with your Class Action Lawsuit...Orly Taitz is tied up in Kansas (I think), but will probably be available in a couple of weeks.
Why don't you do everyone a huge favor and not ever post in this thread again. You really are a complete jack-ass. We all know you don't have consumption issues... Well good for you! Now go F off please.

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Old 09-21-2012, 01:07 PM   #1241
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I still think I'm going to try a 0W-30 for my next oil change. Although Subaru says that the engine was designed specifically for 0W-20 use only, I highly doubt it will cause any harm. If it helps slow the rate of consumption, then I'll be more satisfied than I am now.
I totally agree with you. And if, god forbid, I still have this car after the "warranty" is up and all, I will be doing just what you are doing.
We seem to have the same problems with our cars. You're one of the few on here who can relate to the being stuck with an oil burning *new* car.
One of the most encouraging posts on this thread was one you made- you said something like "hell if I were you I'd say f those a-holes" . I was relieved to see that someone else believes in expecting a certain level of quality on a new major purchase.

But while I've got this looooong open case with soa, and a GREAT dealer willing to help me out, I'm gonna just hope for the best. And if I end up stuck with this car, well, I'll probably try 5w30. But I REALLY hope it doesn't come to that.
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:27 PM   #1242
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I totally agree with you. And if, god forbid, I still have this car after the "warranty" is up and all, I will be doing just what you are doing.
We seem to have the same problems with our cars. You're one of the few on here who can relate to the being stuck with an oil burning *new* car.
One of the most encouraging posts on this thread was one you made- you said something like "hell if I were you I'd say f those a-holes" . I was relieved to see that someone else believes in expecting a certain level of quality on a new major purchase.

But while I've got this looooong open case with soa, and a GREAT dealer willing to help me out, I'm gonna just hope for the best. And if I end up stuck with this car, well, I'll probably try 5w30. But I REALLY hope it doesn't come to that.
Well I'm glad I've been able to help in some way. Its been really tough for me not only because this is my first brand new car purchase, but also because I was expecting a lot more from a brand like Subaru. I really want to like this car and Subaru, but all the issues that I have trump the good things that the car has to offer like good MPG and awd... the reasons I bought it in the first place. I'm trying hard not to focus on the bad all the time, but every time I hit a bump and my whole dash rattles, my seat squeaks and my oil light comes on, its hard not to be disappointed.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention the low coolant level, the weird rattling noise from the trans/drivetrain and a ticking sound coming from the engine.

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Old 09-21-2012, 02:53 PM   #1243
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I still think I'm going to try a 0W-30 for my next oil change. Although Subaru says that the engine was designed specifically for 0W-20 use only, I highly doubt it will cause any harm. If it helps slow the rate of consumption, then I'll be more satisfied than I am now.
What about mixing 0w20 with some 0w30? I am at 5000 miles and loosing 1/2 qt per 1200 like you. Plan on doing this but will first check under for any leaks first.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:06 PM   #1244
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Well Zeeper, if it looks like a lemon, and tastes like a lemon....
Take Jrobb's advice!!!
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:13 PM   #1245
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I'm curious to see my dipstick reading after they're done... I'm waiting now. The consumption test doesn't sound promising though. I am supposed to wait till the dipstick is at the LOW MARK to bring it back. It takes around 2k miles for my oil level light to come on.
These consumption allowances stink.
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:39 PM   #1246
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Wellllll... The tech just told me "sorry man, all these new fb and fa engines consume oil. We never had these problems with the old engines". He also told me he put exactly 6 quarts of oil in the car! So I really don't understand how scientific this can be. They told me that I needed to watch the dipstick for when it gets to the low mark. But if it has an extra .75 quart, that kinda ruins the whole test. Not to mention that too much oil may be part of the issue. I guess an extra quart won't HURT but I thought this was going to be more scientific. I did specify that I was concearned that the EXACT proper amount be used.
Well, I'm going to try again to be positive about it. But basically, every subaru tech I've talked to say that starting with the 11 foresters they "hardly ever have cars come in with more than a few quarts in them".
I hope this goes well!
Actuall, I just checked the dipstick... It's a GOOD inch over the full mark!!!!
So the service mgr now has them putting in the right amount. He scribed a new "full" mark waaay up on the dipstick. That's gonna confuse whoever gets my car next. I think after talking to the techs I need to get either a non "f" engined Sube or just get another brand entirely.
So- six quarts will put you an inch +/- above the top mark on MY dipstick
Apparently the tech just didn't know I was getting a consumption test, and was in his words "putting a little extra in because they consume oil".
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:51 PM   #1247
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An old lady's forester has had 3 oil lights and hasn't even hit 7500mi !
Doubt her and hundreds of others are forum members.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:20 PM   #1248
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Wellllll... The tech just told me "sorry man, all these new fb and fa engines consume oil. We never had these problems with the old engines". He also told me he put exactly 6 quarts of oil in the car! So I really don't understand how scientific this can be. They told me that I needed to watch the dipstick for when it gets to the low mark. But if it has an extra .75 quart, that kinda ruins the whole test. Not to mention that too much oil may be part of the issue. I guess an extra quart won't HURT but I thought this was going to be more scientific. I did specify that I was concearned that the EXACT proper amount be used.
Well, I'm going to try again to be positive about it. But basically, every subaru tech I've talked to say that starting with the 11 foresters they "hardly ever have cars come in with more than a few quarts in them".
I hope this goes well!
Actuall, I just checked the dipstick... It's a GOOD inch over the full mark!!!!
So the service mgr now has them putting in the right amount. He scribed a new "full" mark waaay up on the dipstick. That's gonna confuse whoever gets my car next. I think after talking to the techs I need to get either a non "f" engined Sube or just get another brand entirely.
So- six quarts will put you an inch +/- above the top mark on MY dipstick
Apparently the tech just didn't know I was getting a consumption test, and was in his words "putting a little extra in because they consume oil".
If all dealerships around the country are seeing the same thing, SOA probably knows, and i think someone posted a while back and said they are working on a fix for it.
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If all dealerships around the country are seeing the same thing, SOA probably knows, and i think someone posted a while back and said they are working on a fix for it.
Let's hope so! Regardless, I'm pretty sure this will be my first and last Subaru.
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:04 PM   #1250
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WWWWHHHHOOOOAAAAA!!!! Just got home and according to my receipt- THEY PUT 0w30 in!!!!!!
under parts it says 6 quarts 0w30. Unless thats a typo, this is not scientific at all anymore. According to the instructions for the oc test, its supposed to be filled only to the full mark with 0w20, I'm a quarter or maybe even 3/8" over the full mark with what may be 0w30.
the part # on the oil on my invoice is S0A868V9300.
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