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Old 09-21-2012, 08:18 PM   #1251
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does Subaru even sell 0w30? I can't help but wonder what is going on now!
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:36 PM   #1252
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Well....some years of cars are just big mistakes....this could be the big, BAD year of Subaru when people look back...who knows? The swicth to the 2.0 may have bene a major downfall.

Only time will tell.
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:46 PM   #1253
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googled the S0A868V9300 and all Russian websites for some reason...got one page translated and looks lile 0W20 oil.
http://translate.google.com/translat...ed=0CEIQ7gEwBQ
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:14 PM   #1254
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yeah thats all I could find too. But with the way the techs were talking, I'm fairly certain they have some kind of 0w30. idk... they"re great folks over there, this has to be some snafu.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:20 PM   #1255
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Well....some years of cars are just big mistakes....this could be the big, BAD year of Subaru when people look back...who knows? The swicth to the 2.0 may have bene a major downfall.

Only time will tell.
yep.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:28 PM   #1256
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well i just got word from the dealer, it apparently was a clerical error, and 0w20 WAS used.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:44 PM   #1257
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I just had my oil changed after 3k of hard running with no consumption at all. I plan on leaving this oil in for around the next 5-7k. Mobil 1 0w-20 advanced fuel economy(green top)
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:33 PM   #1258
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Just had my oil changed. No issues at all. I have discovered some rattles though and found them now i need to find a way to fix them. (might take me 15 min and the use of some free supplies hanging around my apartment.
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:27 PM   #1259
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Checked my dipstick cold this morning. Scribed a line where its sitting now, about half inch over. So what I'm gonna do is measure the diastance between the factory marks, and when my oil has dropped by THAT much, I'll let them know it's lost 1.1 quarts.
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Old 09-22-2012, 03:30 PM   #1260
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What ever happened to overfilling the engine being bad?
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:20 PM   #1261
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What ever happened to overfilling the engine being bad?
Is it worse than running out of oil? Nope
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Old 09-23-2012, 12:35 AM   #1262
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Overfilling the oil can lead to the oil foaming, which can lead to low oil pressure and destroyed main bearings, and more.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:57 AM   #1263
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dealer generally fill my '12 with 5 qts (0.3 qt below factory recommendation) when I have oil changed. due to oil consumption problem, they're now doing the oil consumption test and is now overfilling to the tune of 5.5 qts.
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Old 09-23-2012, 12:02 PM   #1264
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With the stories of dealers overfilling, underfilling, filling with who knows what viscosity, and charging $80 for an oil change, it sounds like people should just change their own oil.

This is one of the easiest cars in the world to change oil on. It's cheaper, you can fill it with exactly 5.3 quarts of 0W20, and you'll know what represents "full" on the dipstick with certainty. Buy your crush washers and oil filter from the dealer, your oil from wherever 0W20 is on sale, keep your receipts, and enjoy your piece of mind.
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Old 09-23-2012, 12:34 PM   #1265
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Buy your crush washers and oil filter from the dealer, your oil from wherever 0W20 is on sale, keep your receipts, and enjoy your piece of mind.
Or buy a Fumoto valve so that you don't need a wrench while you're under the car (and don't need to worry about eventually stripping the threads on your aluminum oil pan), get the version of the valve that has a nipple (F-108N) so that you can control the flow with a tube (which also makes it easier to grab an oil sample for a Used Oil Analysis, if you're so inclined), and buy the Subaru oil filters on eBay in a multipack for $7 each.

But I agree with the peace of mind and control that doing your own oil changes provides.
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Old 09-23-2012, 12:49 PM   #1266
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Or buy a Fumoto valve so that you don't need a wrench while you're under the car (and don't need to worry about eventually stripping the threads on your aluminum oil pan), get the version of the valve that has a nipple (F-108N) so that you can control the flow with a tube (which also makes it easier to grab an oil sample for a Used Oil Analysis, if you're so inclined), and buy the Subaru oil filters on eBay in a multipack for $7 each.

But I agree with the peace of mind and control that doing your own oil changes provides.
Fumoto valves look interesting, I'm sure they work great, but I could see them being blamed for something were I ever to have a warranty claim related to oil. You shouldn't have a problem stripping the oil pan if you use crush gaskets and only tighten till you can feel them "crush".

My dealer here charges about $7 for the oil filter, so I just pick it up from them and grab a free pop, some chips, and a granola bar while I'm there.
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:02 PM   #1267
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I mainly like the flow control that a Fumoto provides. But I agree that following a standard oil change process is easy enough.
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:25 PM   #1268
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Full mark when cold. check it when you havent driven the car in 3-4 hours. Mine does that too and then its exactly at the full mark when i do it when cold.
Thanks to your pedantism, I let it cool for 20 full hours. Outside temp. at time of reading: 13C (or 55F)


Same thing, as you can see.
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Old 09-23-2012, 04:17 PM   #1269
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There are two sides of the dip stick. Side that faces the back of car and side that faces front of car. The side that faces the back is the side i read from. The other side tends to give higher readings.

Did my own oil change at 3000 miles. The front of the car was on rhino ramps. I waited until the oil pan was no longer dripping anymore oil before filling it exactly 5.3 qts. Drove the car for about 2 miles after oil/filter change and then check again after it cooled down overnight at the same garage level spot, dipstick side facing back of car shows level at exactly full dot.
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Old 09-23-2012, 05:37 PM   #1270
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Never had an oil problem till mine was waaay over-filled.
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:26 PM   #1271
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Didn't you remove the oil not too long after it was filled?
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:25 AM   #1272
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These cars, at least a 97 lgt, will run at least 3 qaurts low, maybe more. Just thought I would add that in here.

Had a buddy that had a cam seal slide out of the head and was supper low on oil. Light didn't come on till there was no oil to make pressure. Which I swear would be around quart
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:31 AM   #1273
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I don't think it is fair to say that all Subarus consume oil. My '05 STi consumed ~1 qt every 2000 miles. My '08 STI doesn't consume any, and neither does my '12 Impreza.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:41 AM   #1274
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That's what TWO dealers have told me...
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:52 AM   #1275
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That's what TWO dealers have told me...
OK, but as a member of this forum, you know better than to believe them.

I'm surprised that Mastro would tell you this.
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