Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Thursday April 24, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Subaru Models > Impreza Forum

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-24-2012, 01:44 PM   #1301
saabarupp
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 189032
Join Date: Sep 2008
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Pittsburgh
Vehicle:
2007 Sti Ltd 413/800
'12 Impreza Sport Ltd DGM

Default

Overfilling oil can blow a head gasket, which could result in oil consumption and/or coolant consumption. Two things you seem to be complaining about. Coincidence?
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
saabarupp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 01:50 PM   #1302
79letour
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 302570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: dear old dixie
Vehicle:
2013 XV
DGM!

Default

Hmmm why not?? Makes more sense than having to buy a rwd or a turbo model to have fun.
79letour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 02:04 PM   #1303
auskip07
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 315643
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Atlanta Ga
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Sedan
DGM 5mt

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by saabarupp View Post
Overfilling oil can blow a head gasket, which could result in oil consumption and/or coolant consumption. Two things you seem to be complaining about. Coincidence?
Explain, How does oil cause head gasket issue?
auskip07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 02:22 PM   #1304
sgoldste01
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 322264
Join Date: Jun 2012
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Webster, NY
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Sp 5sp
Obs Blk Prl/Drk Gray Mtl

Default

If Subaru brought a turbo model to the USA, it would be a turbo-diesel.
sgoldste01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 02:30 PM   #1305
79letour
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 302570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: dear old dixie
Vehicle:
2013 XV
DGM!

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by saabarupp View Post
Overfilling oil can blow a head gasket, which could result in oil consumption and/or coolant consumption. Two things you seem to be complaining about. Coincidence?
Idk... It isn't really acting like a HG is blown. Thar would be a lot more drastic. I'm not seeing any evidence of it in the oil and haven't overheated yet, at least as far as I can tell.
I think the ring seal isn't good and there's a coolant leak. Just what I suspect. Who knows.
79letour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 02:42 PM   #1306
subypete
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 324361
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Northern California
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Sport
ICM 5MT

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeeper View Post
So you go to the dealer, the tech overfills the crankcase, you point it out, and what do you think will happen next:


3-5 out of 45,000+ sold sounds like a normal rate of issues for any car manufacturer, and probably for any complicated consumer product.
.

I wouldn't say only 3-5, there maybe more because not everyone comments here in this thread or are members of NASIOC
subypete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 02:43 PM   #1307
79letour
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 302570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: dear old dixie
Vehicle:
2013 XV
DGM!

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sgoldste01 View Post
If Subaru brought a turbo model to the USA, it would be a turbo-diesel.
Well- there IS the WRX.
I think you may have missed my point. If I walk into a Subaru dealer, the only sporty options are the wrx or brz. If I want two doors I have to give up the awd and cram into a brz. What would be so wrong with an n/a two door that's a bit sportier than the standard grocery-getter?
No- its wrx, brz, or four door gas "sipper".

Last edited by 79letour; 09-24-2012 at 03:18 PM.
79letour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 02:57 PM   #1308
79letour
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 302570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: dear old dixie
Vehicle:
2013 XV
DGM!

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by subypete View Post
I wouldn't say only 3-5, there maybe more because not everyone comments here in this thread or are members of NASIOC
Yeah, I've seen at least three to five in the newbies n faq"s section that haven't posted here.
I mean, its not like EVERY owner who's got problems is posting in THIS thread. This thread isn't even a poll!!!
79letour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 03:07 PM   #1309
djbono
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 208098
Join Date: Apr 2009
Default

around 4 or 5 are complaining in the Montreal subaru club forums. (Bear in mind it's a forum mostly for (censored) those who own modded WRX or other futilities. There aren't many owning brand new cars in there, even less "simple" imprezas. So I'd say the figure is still quite alarming.
djbono is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 03:39 PM   #1310
Zeeper
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 299286
Join Date: Oct 2011
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Albany NY
Vehicle:
2012 Sport 5MT
Green/Silver

Default

I don't know, if my new impreza was using oil I would probably google it, the typical Subaru owner is probably more internet savvy than the average consumer, do you think they would find this thread?

Let me Google That For You

And that brings up lots of things, if you put in "2012 Impreza Oil Consumption" this post is the 2nd link.

Either way, this post is in the top three, and either way, 79 is now internet famous!

Last edited by Zeeper; 09-24-2012 at 03:46 PM.
Zeeper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 04:13 PM   #1311
79letour
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 302570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: dear old dixie
Vehicle:
2013 XV
DGM!

Default

Thanks, Zeeper. Ummm I think
At least I'm not Tosh.o "famous" lol. Gotta love the power of the net.
But I still think the folks on here and other forums are only a handful of the oil consumption casses.
79letour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 04:51 PM   #1312
79letour
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 302570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: dear old dixie
Vehicle:
2013 XV
DGM!

Default

Imo, most people who have oil consumption who AREN'T members of a forum, probably aren't worried about joining, and chiming in. They most likely take it to their dealer, call soa, don't like what they hear, and trade it off (as at least two or three have here). I'm just not in a position to do that. And to be honest, it really isn't cool that subaru isn't stepping up to the plate on this. I have always had sort of "bad luck" with purchases. I've bought lemon Smith & Wessons a few times, and man was I ever flamed for speaking ill of S&W on their forum. But the guns were JUNK. I WOULD be the guy who waits till he can afford a nice new subaru, and its the year the company seems to have qc popping up.
I would have bought a used subaru, but they are hard to find used around here. Just a few old beaten up OB's. And a used one was damn near the same price as a new one. Upon doing some Google work of my own, it seems there's no shortage of clean, low-mile, used 2012's. I kinda wonder why I've rarely ever seen a Sube for sale with less than 200k on it. I wonder if people who are used to Subaru quality are less than pleased with their oil-drinkers.
79letour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 05:02 PM   #1313
79letour
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 302570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: dear old dixie
Vehicle:
2013 XV
DGM!

Default

When I first started seeing the dipstick level dropping after the dealer oil change at Bill Bryan, when I google subaru oil consumption, one of the first hits was from the Forester forum. There was a really long thread peppered with complaints of oil consumption with the new fb.
That was after I had called soa and the dealer and refused to accept their dismissive attitude about the matter. I have never been unreasonable to soa, and never demanded anything. I was PROMISED lots of things, and none of them came to fruition.
79letour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 05:14 PM   #1314
saabarupp
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 189032
Join Date: Sep 2008
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Pittsburgh
Vehicle:
2007 Sti Ltd 413/800
'12 Impreza Sport Ltd DGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by auskip07 View Post
Explain, How does oil cause head gasket issue?
The excess oil can cause excess pressure in the case. If the PCV system is not sufficient to vent the pressure, a gasket (possibly, but not necessarily the head gasket) might take more pressure than it was designed for.
saabarupp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 05:25 PM   #1315
auskip07
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 315643
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Atlanta Ga
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Sedan
DGM 5mt

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by saabarupp View Post
The excess oil can cause excess pressure in the case. If the PCV system is not sufficient to vent the pressure, a gasket (possibly, but not necessarily the head gasket) might take more pressure than it was designed for.
i would guess the oil pan gasket. before PCV or AOS systems it was common for engine's to "weep" near the gaskets from excess build up of pressure in the crankcase.

Head gasket will let go for other reasons not associated with Oil.
auskip07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 06:50 PM   #1316
79letour
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 302570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: dear old dixie
Vehicle:
2013 XV
DGM!

Default

Doing some google searching, I typed in "impreza oil consumption" and found a guy on "car talk" saying he burned a quart every two thousand miles, and folks telling him it was "normal".
Then I found this spot-on review of the 2012 impreza

http://missouriwhitewater.org/uiefor...&ThreadID=5162

Wish I'd had that review to google when I ordered my Impreza. Sounds like a bigger problem than just a few nasioc'ers...
79letour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 07:28 PM   #1317
jr0bb5
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 315353
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: MA
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Sp Prem
5MT OBP/DGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 79letour
Imo, most people who have oil consumption who AREN'T members of a forum, probably aren't worried about joining, and chiming in. They most likely take it to their dealer, call soa, don't like what they hear, and trade it off (as at least two or three have here). I'm just not in a position to do that. And to be honest, it really isn't cool that subaru isn't stepping up to the plate on this. I have always had sort of "bad luck" with purchases. I've bought lemon Smith & Wessons a few times, and man was I ever flamed for speaking ill of S&W on their forum. But the guns were JUNK. I WOULD be the guy who waits till he can afford a nice new subaru, and its the year the company seems to have qc popping up.
I would have bought a used subaru, but they are hard to find used around here. Just a few old beaten up OB's. And a used one was damn near the same price as a new one. Upon doing some Google work of my own, it seems there's no shortage of clean, low-mile, used 2012's. I kinda wonder why I've rarely ever seen a Sube for sale with less than 200k on it. I wonder if people who are used to Subaru quality are less than pleased with their oil-drinkers.
You took the words right out of my mouth 79. The percentage of people that post in forums like this that own '12 Impreza's are just a tiny fraction of people that bought one. Most owners will probably never even know about NASIOC never mind post something here. I'm willing to bet almost anything that there are at least several hundreds, if not thousands of reported oil consumption concerns out there.

Last edited by jr0bb5; 09-24-2012 at 07:47 PM.
jr0bb5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 08:35 PM   #1318
auskip07
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 315643
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Atlanta Ga
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Sedan
DGM 5mt

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jr0bb5 View Post
You took the words right out of my mouth 79. The percentage of people that post in forums like this that own '12 Impreza's are just a tiny fraction of people that bought one. Most owners will probably never even know about NASIOC never mind post something here. I'm willing to bet almost anything that there are at least several hundreds, if not thousands of reported oil consumption concerns out there.
"If" they have a problem. Regardless of the people that wont get on NASIOC the amount of cars to problem cars on this site should be representative of the overall average or it may be worse on this site because people are quicker to look for outlets to vent frustrations than modify this type of vehicle.
auskip07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 08:43 PM   #1319
djbono
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 208098
Join Date: Apr 2009
Default

Indeed, but it's kinda hard to estimate the amount of members that own 2012 Imprezas....
I'm with 79 on this, just like my own similar analysis mentioned earlier regarding the Montreal subaru club forums.

Very rare are the ppl that would join such a forum just to say "Hey, I just bought a 2012 imp. and I'm happy".

--
I joined when I got my 09 because I wanted to buy things off the buy&sell section - and I didn't go anywhere shouting about my car that I was perfectly happy with.
--
Having said that, we could pry the forum admins to start asking new members / existing members (by a mandatory questionnaire upon login, and have it re-asked each year) to list the subi they own. Only then will we be able figure out the %age of 2012 Imps that exhibit this catastrophic thirst for oil. (or any other issue on any other model)

Last edited by djbono; 09-24-2012 at 08:45 PM. Reason: last sentence completely unreadable. Not sure it's better now though.
djbono is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 09:27 PM   #1320
FourOhFour
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 309509
Join Date: Feb 2012
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by djbono View Post
Very rare are the ppl that would join such a forum just to say "Hey, I just bought a 2012 imp. and I'm happy".
Hey, I just bought a 2012 imp and I'm happy.

(for varying definitions of "just")

(except I miss keyless ignition. And an instrument panel that isn't bright at night even at the dimmest setting. And silently sneaking up behind oblivious people in parking lots. But hey, if these are my biggest complaints, I'm happy.)
FourOhFour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 09:39 PM   #1321
sgoldste01
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 322264
Join Date: Jun 2012
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Webster, NY
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Sp 5sp
Obs Blk Prl/Drk Gray Mtl

Default

I join forums for research purposes. This forum is largely where I learned what I needed to know about swapping my HU.

So I didn't join to complain about a problem. I joined to learn.
sgoldste01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 10:02 PM   #1322
djbono
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 208098
Join Date: Apr 2009
Default

Well great, thanks now with your two symptom-less posts, we now have a better understanding of the proportion of lemons vs. non-lemons.

(That's assuming that after sneaking up behind people in a dark alley, you've taken the time to check your fuild levels and that they're ok)

-- also - if I hadn't asked, we would never have known in this thread (unless you posted in one of the 52 previous pages, I don't remember each member who posted) that you had a symptom-less 2012 imp.

Last edited by djbono; 09-24-2012 at 10:07 PM. Reason: do I need one ?
djbono is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 10:22 PM   #1323
WStrembitsky
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 323877
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza Limited
DGM

Default

Hey, I just bought a 2012 Impreza and I'm happy!
WStrembitsky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 10:59 PM   #1324
John451
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 321966
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Sydneys South, Australia
Vehicle:
2012 Impreza 2.0i H
Black Pearl

Default

Vehicle wise I'm happy so far with this car, have had my Impreza CVT ( Build date 20th Jan 2012 ) 4 months and had them do a Oil change at 1000kms which they overfilled by 15mm, even after they said they emptied some it was still 10mm over. Still after another 4000+ kms my level is still 10mm over and have not lost any coolant.

Only thing I'm curious about is on every cold start at any ambient temperature after 20 seconds it blows a visible light grey smoke for about 30-40 seconds then stops, it smells a little and not sure if oil or just rich from fuel but will ask them next service.
John451 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 11:00 PM   #1325
nels0300
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 331332
Join Date: Sep 2012
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Minneapolis
Vehicle:
2013 Sport 5sp
DGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 79letour View Post
Imo, most people who have oil consumption who AREN'T members of a forum, probably aren't worried about joining, and chiming in
I'd imagine most people period aren't members of an auto forum, especially NA Impreza owners, so I'm not sure how anyone can draw any conclusions about the extent of oil consumption issues with the 2012 Impreza based on reading forums.
nels0300 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Are there any DIY independent fog lights write ups yet for 2012 impreza sports? JDMSTA Electrical & Lighting 59 07-21-2013 08:04 AM
2012 Impreza 2.0i Mobil1 oil filter model # jr0bb5 Service & Maintenance 27 01-04-2013 05:18 PM
('11+) OC interval and the first oil change on 2012 Impreza 2.0 Oceanguy Impreza Forum 80 11-18-2012 12:56 PM
My Oil Light is Flickering and I have No Leak??? kakarotoni Newbies & FAQs 39 08-16-2012 10:36 AM
('11+) 2012 Impreza High beams = Low beams lighting Jmzda Impreza Forum 28 06-01-2012 12:14 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.