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Old 10-29-2012, 10:08 AM   #1726
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Yup. It was the same on my VW TDI. So a proper brake flush includes the clutch's hydraulic line too.
Ah ha... ya learn something new every day. This is good info to know, thank you!
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:21 AM   #1727
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Cool. I'll do the brake fluid flush at 21k, when I change the oil next. Going to saee about those ebc pads too. And the ss braided lines.
At 400+ miles now, still lookin good on the dipstick readings.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:29 PM   #1728
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I have driven cars with 200k+, 15+ years old and never been flushed and never had issues. Even in -30f temps. I will probably do this car as it is the first brand new car I've ever driven. Might do our jetta soon too since the clutch shares the reservoir(as does my impreza) but i have never bled a clutch
I confess I haven't flushed the brake lines anywhere near the recommended intervals, and I've never had a problem. But the same could be said for not wearing a seat belt.

Now that I have the tool to do this myself, I'll be doing it more often. The Mityvac makes it pretty easy and quick to take care of this, costs about what a shop would charge for one brake fluid job, and by doing it myself, I know it's done right. I'm sure there are competing products that are good, if not better, but the Mityvac is what I have and can give a good reference.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:38 PM   #1729
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That's what I'm talkin about- no one can do it as well as you can!
I love my MityVac!
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:58 PM   #1730
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Give them time.
I gave Consumer Reports a few days, and they in turn named the 2012 Subaru Impreza as one of their most Reliable cars (Recommended buy, Small Car category):

http://money.cnn.com/gallery/autos/2...le-cars/5.html

Should keep the resale value high, but probably indicates they are not aware of any widespread oil consumption issues.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:33 PM   #1731
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Driving around on my new 2012 Impreza 2.0I Stick 5 Door Hatch, at 2500 Miles Low Oil Light turned on. I checked it out and had to add 1.5 Qts of oil to the car. now again at 3900 miles i check my dipstick and its lower then the first dot for low oil. Light didnt turn on. I added 1 Qt and now its fine. I have no leaks... Does that mean its Burning oil? I broke the car in pretty much right...What should i do now? Do i Have a lemon?
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:41 PM   #1732
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Driving around on my new 2012 Impreza 2.0I Stick 5 Door Hatch, at 2500 Miles Low Oil Light turned on. I checked it out and had to add 1.5 Qts of oil to the car. now again at 3900 miles i check my dipstick and its lower then the first dot for low oil. Light didnt turn on. I added 1 Qt and now its fine. I have no leaks... Does that mean its Burning oil? I broke the car in pretty much right...What should i do now? Do i Have a lemon?
I think you should contact the dealer and have this documented.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:45 PM   #1733
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Damn, I'd think someone as old as you would be a bit more perceptive of time, Zeeper. I didn't mean give them two days. I meant give them a year or so. They obviously haven't spoken to the service managers at florida dealers.
But believe me Zeeper- we get your point. We all know full well that your pampered, low-mileage, geezer-mobile hasn't used any oil yet. Great!
Now the rest of us have been left with non-answers by soa, denial, lies, etc. This thread is for us to comiserate and to discuss what is a very REAL problem for us.
Why don't you go enjoy your car, and put some real miles on it.
I've done everything I can possibly do to put a damn band aid on this pos.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:59 PM   #1734
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Driving around on my new 2012 Impreza 2.0I Stick 5 Door Hatch, at 2500 Miles Low Oil Light turned on. I checked it out and had to add 1.5 Qts of oil to the car. now again at 3900 miles i check my dipstick and its lower then the first dot for low oil. Light didnt turn on. I added 1 Qt and now its fine. I have no leaks... Does that mean its Burning oil? I broke the car in pretty much right...What should i do now? Do i Have a lemon?
After considerable research this thread is the most up to date discussion of the topic that I could find.

Did you just join NASIOC after finding this discussion via google?

There are an unknown number of Impreza's that have oil consumption issues (I think a small percent, 79 thinks hundreds or thousands...)

Make sure Subaru knows that you have one of them.

I recommend that you bring the car to the dealer to document the issue and follow their suggestions. Request and actually follow through with whatever oil consumption test they want to run.

Since running low on oil is a bad thing, I would check it frequently and top it off unless the Subaru tech tells you not to (for example, if they are running a consumption test).

It is unlikely that they will Lemon Law the car unless it consumes more oil than specified as normal in the Owners Manual. However, the more sane and calm you stay, and persistant, the more likely Subaru will remediate the problem for those with cars that consume oil.

Or you can be like 79, and get kicked out by the original dealer, brag about driving the car 130mph, insult the second dealer that offers to help, and switch to a non-approved weight oil after deciding not to follow through on the oil consumption test (all on a public forum that he knows one of the dealers has representatives reading). Not a smart strategy.

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Old 10-29-2012, 06:33 PM   #1735
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Once again, with Rove-like efficiency, you come in with an elowuently stated argument in which you TWIST the facts, distort statemnts I've made, and go out of your way to find ways of insulting me for my misfortune of having an oil burning pos.

The "consumption test" was NOT one. The tech said after the service "it didn't say anything about a consumption test". I measured 6.25 quarts a thousand miles later. Over filling a quart+ isn't a consumption test. And since it consumed about a third of a quart (I guess, who knows if the gauge stays the same that high on the dipstick) I decided to try a thicker oil. It says in the manual that 5w30 CAN be used.

There are also some owners who post every so often in the newbies section with oil consumption. And they DO continue to trickle into this thread as well. Add in all those who have never even poped the hood open, and that's quite a few more than zeeper will believe.

And for the record- it was Mastro who insulted ME, zeeper. You ****ing follow this thread like its your personal mission in life you know god damned well how THAT scenario played out. Lemme sum it up for those who may be misled by your arrogant, douchebag remarks. I showed up, at their urging, after a pleasant visit before to fix the seat. Pleasant correspondance happened between myself and Mastro. We had a great relationship as far as dealers go. Io showed up with dunkin donuts. Then they informed me that ALL "f" engined Subarus consume oil, blah blah, etc. The service mgr and I looked at my dipstick and scribed a mark where the oil was filled to. It was approximately 1 1/4" OVER the full mark. They drained it down a half inch from there, and just wanted me gone. That's not a consumption test.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:27 PM   #1736
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Now its my TPMS light!!!
Lol just had my first run-in with this feature of the car. I pulled my Victor dial pressure gauge and three corners read 26, one read 27. So I inflated them to 32psi and after several miles, it went off. We just had our first real cold snap. Its a blistering 60F out lol. I guess I've been so occupied with the oil, coolant, general upkeep, etc. I'm going to check every couple weeks from now on.
In about 20k, I need to start thinking about what tires to put on.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:03 PM   #1737
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Now its my TPMS light!!!
Lol just had my first run-in with this feature of the car. I pulled my Victor dial pressure gauge and three corners read 26, one read 27. So I inflated them to 32psi and after several miles, it went off. We just had our first real cold snap. Its a blistering 60F out lol. I guess I've been so occupied with the oil, coolant, general upkeep, etc. I'm going to check every couple weeks from now on.
In about 20k, I need to start thinking about what tires to put on.
Fill your tires with nitrogen. It then should not fluctuate with temp.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:54 PM   #1738
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I dont ever think ive seen anyone make such a big deal out of their tires being low on pressure because of the temperature drop.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:57 PM   #1739
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I dont ever think ive seen anyone make such a big deal out of their tires being low on pressure because of the temperature drop.
I don't think he was making a big deal about it. Just making a comment about it since he was pre-occupied with other more important matters.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:16 PM   #1740
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He, along with zeeper just like to exaggerate and/or twist my words.

I wasn't trying to make a big deal, hence the lighthearted post. I feel pretty dumb for not checking. I guess I was fooled by the "nitrogen fill". I was told they held pressure better than air. With all the dealer visits, there's no telling if nitrogen was ever even in my tires. Will try that stuff again when I get new tires. We have a setup at work we use when the boss is fishing for the day.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:20 PM   #1741
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Actually, there are lots of people on various forums/threads who have made a big deal of tpms lights. Go find your tailpipe, auskipo
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:21 PM   #1742
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I don't think he was making a big deal about it. Just making a comment about it since he was pre-occupied with other more important matters.
well when he posts it like this.....

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Old 10-29-2012, 10:31 PM   #1743
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Wow jesus h christ, get a sense of friggin humor, flyboy. Did you miss the thread's title? And little "lol" after the post you quoted?? It was meant to be a moment of humor and realization that I'd neglected to check something.
Go drink a beer, smoke some grass, or huff some glue, whatever you like, but lighten up man.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:31 PM   #1744
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I'll spring for an analysis of the 5w30 in 6500 miles, since this will be the first time I'll have had the chance.

On another note- I may start another thread, but does anyone know if the ebc green pads for 2011 brakes will work on the 2012? When I try searching, it never specifically says that they'll fit 2012's. I want to see if they'll provide a little more bite, maybe a little more dust. When these rotors are worn out, I'll go with some good aftermarket ones and some ebc red's.

I ran EBC greens with new rotors on my Outback. Much LESS stopping power for street driving. Might work well if you track them and get them hot.
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The age of the brake lines have nothing to do with the firmness of the pedal.
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The brake lines are so new that i dont believe you will get much more firmness out of the brake pedal from the new lines. (which is all they provide)
With your intent to say that SS braided lines do not have an advantage over stock new OEM lines. I disagree. I can attest that they have a direct impact on the firmness of the pedal regardless if the line age. My '05 and '08 were fitted with low miles <10K. I feel an improvement mostly at half to full braking.
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Once again, with Rove-like efficiency, you come in with an elowuently stated argument in which you TWIST the facts, distort statemnts I've made, and go out of your way to find ways of insulting me for my misfortune of having an oil burning pos.

The "consumption test" was NOT one. The tech said after the service "it didn't say anything about a consumption test". I measured 6.25 quarts a thousand miles later. Over filling a quart+ isn't a consumption test. And since it consumed about a third of a quart (I guess, who knows if the gauge stays the same that high on the dipstick) I decided to try a thicker oil. It says in the manual that 5w30 CAN be used.

There are also some owners who post every so often in the newbies section with oil consumption. And they DO continue to trickle into this thread as well. Add in all those who have never even poped the hood open, and that's quite a few more than zeeper will believe.

And for the record- it was Mastro who insulted ME, zeeper. You ****ing follow this thread like its your personal mission in life you know god damned well how THAT scenario played out. Lemme sum it up for those who may be misled by your arrogant, douchebag remarks. I showed up, at their urging, after a pleasant visit before to fix the seat. Pleasant correspondance happened between myself and Mastro. We had a great relationship as far as dealers go. Io showed up with dunkin donuts. Then they informed me that ALL "f" engined Subarus consume oil, blah blah, etc. The service mgr and I looked at my dipstick and scribed a mark where the oil was filled to. It was approximately 1 1/4" OVER the full mark. They drained it down a half inch from there, and just wanted me gone. That's not a consumption test.
I can only wonder why Maestro decided that the option of helping you was less attractive than trying to get you out of their dealership, but since we only hear one side of the story, and it always involves you being a victim, we probably will never know.

My advice to others with this problem is to maintain a civil relationship with the dealer, and be careful what you post in an online forum, because Subaru dealers have people too, my friend, and they read and post on this forum.

It does not take an advanced degree to know that what you write here can come back and bite you in the butt.

It isn't like Rexygirl engaged with you on this thread, offered to help, and invited you to come to Maestro. Your rants about your experience there haven't been exactly uplifting, how willing do you think Maestro will be to help you now?

By the way, you are also grossly misrepresenting what the Owners Manual states:

0W-20 synthetic oil is the required oil for optimum performance and protection. Conventional oil may be used if synthetic oil is unavailable.
*if 0W-20 synthetic oil is not available 5W-30 or 5W-40 conventional oil may be used if replenishment is needed but should be changed to 0W-20 synthetic oil at the next oil change.


In other words, emergency use, to top it off, only if 0W-20 is unavailable.

I can understand why you would want to try a heavier weight oil to see if it reduces consumption, but why you simultaneously publicize it where your last dealer can read it is kind of dumb. You undermine your options by flying off the handle.

I know, you think I am a geezer. I get that a lot at age 45, everywhere I go.
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With your intent to say that SS braided lines do not have an advantage over stock new OEM lines. I disagree. I can attest that they have a direct impact on the firmness of the pedal regardless if the line age. My '05 and '08 were fitted with low miles <10K. I feel an improvement mostly at half to full braking.

I was mostly making the statement that he should wait a little while before replacing them. New lines are firm and will last 7+ years. Of course they wont be as firm as the first couple years. Its just more work on a vehicle that ole Letour hates. Dont you find it funny that he is willing to change to expensive pads and Steel Braided brake lines.
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Your posts paint you as a mix of hank hill and karl rove.
I'm not going to rehash what I've already posted. Suffice to say- I think you are going WAY out of your way to PAINT me in a way that really has me questioning your motives.
If anything I've said is untrue regarding Mastro, why is Rexy suddenly so silent, they screwed up, and they knew it. I was nioce to them, and they can't say otherwise.
I have emails back and forth that I haven't publicly published. But they basically are Mastro pleading with me to bring the car in. When I found my dipstick a full inch+ over and the statements the tech made, well I decided that I didn't want them touching my car again, as they showed no aptitude or competency.
Zeeper- you REALLY should be working fort soa, with the level of zeal you (and others) exhibit. **** the ****ing **** off you no life asswipe.
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Your posts paint you as a mix of hank hill and karl rove.
I'm not going to rehash what I've already posted. Suffice to say- I think you are going WAY out of your way to PAINT me in a way that really has me questioning your motives.
If anything I've said is untrue regarding Mastro, why is Rexy suddenly so silent, they screwed up, and they knew it. I was nioce to them, and they can't say otherwise.
I have emails back and forth that I haven't publicly published. But they basically are Mastro pleading with me to bring the car in. When I found my dipstick a full inch+ over and the statements the tech made, well I decided that I didn't want them touching my car again, as they showed no aptitude or competency.
Zeeper- you REALLY should be working fort soa, with the level of zeal you (and others) exhibit. **** the ****ing **** off you no life asswipe.
jeez guys. take it easy.
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Argumentum ad hominem. No need to personally insult anyone to make your point, unless you lack the ability to speak, think or write civilly.

Of course if you lack this ability it might explain why SOA, and multiple dealers, think you are not worth working with. Not the best strategy to negotiate for remediation.

No comment on the factual oil weight reference from the owners manual?
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