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Old 11-11-2012, 12:02 AM   #1901
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Overfill within reason won't damage the engine. I just got my oil change done (I get them free) and the dealer appeared to put 6 qts in. Doing my own due diligence I called up my friend (also head suby tech), and he said it's fine and won't damage a thing. Since my car seemed to consume about 1/4 qt for 5k miles, I'm going to leave it in there.

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Old 11-11-2012, 12:41 AM   #1902
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Mines already burnt around 1/4 quart in less than 900 miles.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:13 AM   #1903
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Why does it seem so many dealers are putting 6 quarts in these cars?

I worked at Jiffy Lube and memorized oil capacities for hundreds of vehicles.

These dealerships only deal with a dozen or so engines, why on earth do they not know how much oil to put in? Seriously. A Burger King worker has more to memorize.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:39 AM   #1904
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Why does it seem so many dealers are putting 6 quarts in these cars?

I worked at Jiffy Lube and memorized oil capacities for hundreds of vehicles.

These dealerships only deal with a dozen or so engines, why on earth do they not know how much oil to put in? Seriously. A Burger King worker has more to memorize.
Perhaps to prevent people from running low on oil. That or they are lazy and don't want to measure .3 of a qt.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:39 AM   #1905
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Perhaps to prevent people from running low on oil. That or they are lazy and don't want to measure .3 of a qt.
Don't they just pump it out of a hose with a measuring gauge on the end of it?
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:07 AM   #1906
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Don't they just pump it out of a hose with a measuring gauge on the end of it?
Jiffy Lube had hoses with digital gauges. There is really no excuse for overfilling.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:45 AM   #1907
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Don't they just pump it out of a hose with a measuring gauge on the end of it?
The two dealers I have been in contact with use the OEM Idemitsu oil in quarts. I believe they are still waiting for 0w-20 to come in bulk.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:57 PM   #1908
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Same here. Dealers had quart jugs.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:00 PM   #1909
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Lazy ass dealers.

I changed my oil last night at 1,200 miles and somehow managed to put 5.3 quarts in using quart jugs.

Drained for 15 minutes, changed the filter, and the oil is about a quarter inch above the full line, so these dipsticks are a little off.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:53 PM   #1910
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That is exactly my experience with the dipsticks and changes.^
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:28 PM   #1911
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Stealerships can make more money this way too, it's all a scam.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:16 AM   #1912
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I'm very tempted to drain my current fill (Amsoil OE 0W20) early and try a 0W30 just to see if it'll help quell my car's un-quenchable thirst for oil. I'm just about at 3000 miles into my current fill and was going to go for 5000, possibly 7500, but this having to add a quart every 1300 miles is extremely annoying.

I know you said that you don't think a heavier oil will help, 79, but at this point I'm willing to try almost anything. I don't believe that anyone here has tried a 0W30 yet. I wish Amsoil had a 0W30 in their OE series oils... Amsoil SS is too rich for my blood.
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:35 AM   #1913
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It won't hurt, Jrobb. Just don't get too optimistic. At a quart per 1300, you're on track for warranty repair. I doubt you'd burn much less even going to a w40.
I *may* have had 0w30 at my last dealer fill. My receipt said 0w30. They swear it was w20 but they also swore it wasn't grossly overfilled.
Post your findings, I'm curious to see what the results are.
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:50 AM   #1914
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I've got 925mi on this oil. Did a 150-mile drive through orlando. Lots of stop and go on International drive and lots of 100mph cruising on the Florida Turnpike.
Car's been sitting two hours since my commute this morning. Gonna check the dipstick at break in a few minutes.
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:18 AM   #1915
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My god, its consuming a good bit faster now. In 925 miles is burnt nearly half a quart. My oil light should be on soon, as the dipstick is between the two markers.
Not good. As suspected, the consumption is increasing with mileage. Gonna switch oils this weekend.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:33 AM   #1916
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Here's yet another online discussion, they seem to be popping up more as time goes on. I don't think this onwr is a nasioc member, either.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=663208
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:06 AM   #1917
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:15 AM   #1918
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My god, its consuming a good bit faster now. In 925 miles is burnt nearly half a quart. My oil light should be on soon, as the dipstick is between the two markers.
Not good. As suspected, the consumption is increasing with mileage. Gonna switch oils this weekend.
Personally man, I would just do my oil changes at the dealership, wait for the light to come on each time, and bring it in to them. They have to document the issue. Perhaps this will help you with your cause.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:17 AM   #1919
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I'm very tempted to drain my current fill (Amsoil OE 0W20) early and try a 0W30 just to see if it'll help quell my car's un-quenchable thirst for oil. I'm just about at 3000 miles into my current fill and was going to go for 5000, possibly 7500, but this having to add a quart every 1300 miles is extremely annoying.

I know you said that you don't think a heavier oil will help, 79, but at this point I'm willing to try almost anything. I don't believe that anyone here has tried a 0W30 yet. I wish Amsoil had a 0W30 in their OE series oils... Amsoil SS is too rich for my blood.
If you are consuming oil at that rate, perhaps SOA will fix your engine. As you know the widely stated oil consumption threshold is 1qt per 1200 miles. You are really close to that. Perhaps even driving the car hard will put you at that rate. Have your brought it to your dealer yet? If so, what did they say?
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:17 AM   #1920
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Lmao just went in for the ecm update and inquired about the oil problem and he said to add a quart every thousand miles is normal ..... omg
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:19 AM   #1921
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Lmao just went in for the ecm update and inquired about the oil problem and he said to add a quart every thousand miles is normal ..... omg
When asked, the dealer gave me an extra quart for topping off.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:23 AM   #1922
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good reasons to stay the **** away from some of these jokers
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:25 AM   #1923
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When asked, the dealer gave me an extra quart for topping off.
I must be really lucky. 3500 miles and my oil was still at the top. i havent taken it past 3500 yet. 5k might be my limit on oil change interveral. But, they could also be overfilling.

For the record i did use Redline break-in additive.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:17 PM   #1924
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Personally man, I would just do my oil changes at the dealership, wait for the light to come on each time, and bring it in to them. They have to document the issue. Perhaps this will help you with your cause.
Thanks, and that's good adsvice. But the lowlife CRIMINALS who sold me the car refuse me service now because of doing precisely what you suggest. I actually didn't ever do anything to be kicked out. Never cursed, demanded anything, or even raised my voice to them. Soa called my mother to "have her tell me I'm not allowed back at Bill Bryan Subaru". Its a good solid hours drive to the next dealer, who can't even get an oil change right.
All the excuses/dismissals at dealers are beyond frustrating. The denials are pretty systematic.
The first oil light that came on, I stopped and called roadside assistance. They had me call Bill Bryan. Bill Bryan basically told me "we can't help you, its sunday, our service counter is closed". I asked if they could give me some oil or sell me some. They said they'd call back, never did.
The next couple visits to their dealer , theyt were beyond rude. And even went so far as to try and discount my account and verbally started to "bully" me. Well, I'm very sure of myself and don't give in to bullying.
So- I really CAN'T do what you suggest, STeye, although anyone else should do just what you've suggested.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:33 PM   #1925
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Refused to service you? Can they even do that? What were their grounds for not servicing you? Does SOA know that as well?
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