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Old 12-17-2012, 12:43 PM   #2126
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Well, enough arguing about speeds. One of these days I'll shoot a quick youtube vid of the turnpike.
Its not always flowing a hundred miles an hour, but certain stretches of it usually do!
Hell the goddamned traffic does 80-90 the entire way from ocala to gainesville on I75.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:13 PM   #2127
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Jrobb- how fast has your car (which burns more oil than mine) gone?
I rarely ever drive on the highway. Pretty much the only time I do, is to drive to my dealership and back. I think the fastest I've gone in my Impreza was 80, possibly 85 for a very brief amount of time.

I would occasionally zip my MS6 up to 100+ just because it was the quickest car I ever owned and it was fun. I only ever did this at night on a long, straight stretch of road when there was absolutely no other cars around.

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Old 12-17-2012, 01:13 PM   #2128
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Thanks John451, I had a very similar experience in Germany. And I don't agree with whoever commented about germans being "courteous" drivers. They drive like they're in a race everywhere they go. I was amazed at the overall agressive nature of the german driving experience.
It's not aggressive once the pecking order on the Autobahn is understood, in my Opel I knew to yield quickly to VWs who knew to quickly yield to Audis who knew to yield to Mercs or BMWs with Porsche's clearly at the top. *

My pet amusement was the main roads through town would have a sign facing you at each intersection of the main road informing you the side street had a giveway sign, must be happy days for sign makers in Germany.

* a friend living in Germany had a modified de-restricted M5 that'd top 180mph and loved hunting Porches to deflate their egos for fun.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:23 PM   #2129
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Besides, and I'll leave it at this, I've NEVER gotten pulled over for speeding. Not in a car anyways
And I have NEVER gotten a speeding ticket. Ever.
Knock on wood
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:33 PM   #2130
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I rarely ever drive on the highway. Pretty much the only time I do, is to drive to my dealership and back. I think the fastest I've gone in my Impreza was 80, possibly 85 for a very brief amount of time.

I would occasionally zip my MS6 up to 100+ just because it was the quickest car I ever owned and it was fun. I only ever did this at night on a long, straight stretch of road when there was absolutely no other cars around.
Thanks!
I didn't remember what your break-in and driving habits were, I'm sure they've been discussed.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:11 PM   #2131
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I have built engines, too, btw. A few aircooled Veedubs, a honda cbx (straight six aircooled bike) and lots of aicooled single cylinder hondas. Two strokes, although I hate balancing the cranks on those.

And ST- until your subaru tech buddy joins in, that's all conjecture and heresay. I never claimed to be the intellectual sduperior of you or anyone here. But since you've said that your done with this thread, I'll not bring you up, and your rewording and semantics battles won't be missed.

As to why soa and Bill Bryan don't wanna deal with the issues, well I'm not getting any different treatment than Jrobb is, or any of the otther unfortunate oil consumer owners.
Mastro and I never had any arguments or ill words, not returning to their dealership is and was MY choice, and as a customer I expect basic competency, which they didn't show. I showed up with a very positive outlook and a box of donuts. I left with over six quarts of oil in my car on a "consumption" test, and 102JAMZ programmed into my radio presets.
You obviously have a hard time with reading comprehension and writing as well. It was SubiTWO that claimed he knew everything about engines and accused others of being inferior. Anyways, I will leave you alone to incessantly whine. Kinda sounds like my CVT. I'll follow an old friend's advice and not argue with an idiot.

Regarding your excessive speed, I'm just glad you don't complain about your mileage.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:59 PM   #2132
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goddamn does he teach english and an ivy league school?
Bye! And thanks!
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:01 PM   #2133
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If anyone abused their 2012 Impreza it was James Wilson, and I don't think his was burning oil.
Didn't he auto-x his pretty much right away?
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:06 PM   #2134
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I've never had any reason to complain about mpg's, as 99.999999% of my driving is a 13 mile commute every day through 40mph and 50mph zones.
What I DO complain about is MPQ's- Miles Per Quart!
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:01 AM   #2135
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Is it burning more oil now that its cooler outside? Assuming you're having more of a winter than Atlanta. I think the average temp is 50.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:25 AM   #2136
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Did I hear something?^

Oil upodate- almost 200mi on the 0w20 Castrol and I haven't noticed any difference in mpg's or any shorter warmup times. The engine noise is louder, at least to my ear.
Will keep checking the dipstick, and at a thousand, I'll post my findings.
Any news from any other oil-burners?
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:59 AM   #2137
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You obviously have a hard time with reading comprehension and writing as well. It was SubiTWO that claimed he knew everything about engines and accused others of being inferior.
Wow... Inferiority complex much? It's you with the lack of reading comprehension. But you're obviously just in troll mode with 79, so have at it...
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:18 AM   #2138
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I see we are all making friends
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:37 AM   #2139
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Hello folks,

I now have a little over 10K miles on my 2012 and have owned it for one year. I have had to add one quart of oil every 1200-1500 miles, and have brought it back to the dealer twice and both times they say that it's "within normal ranges" for oil consumption with using the new synthetic oil. The car also has a squeaky driver's seat back, and a noisy "clutch" on the heat/ac fan which sounds like an exhalation of air every 10 seconds that they also say is normal. I really want to love my Subaru, but it's just not happening. Any advice?
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:48 AM   #2140
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Sounds like we have the SAME problems! The only advice I can give is to be persistent, and don't let subaru fan-boys on the internet tell you that its your fault, or that your new car is supposed to burn oil!
Welcome to the oil burners club! We're getting new members more and more as consumers start to rack up the mileage.
Too bad your new and can't vote in the oil consumption/break-in poll!
Please keep us posted on what's going on, I'm very interested in communicating with ANY and ALL other owners of oil consuming new Imprezas.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:51 AM   #2141
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If you can afford to trade, that's pretty much the only immediate solution.
I'm weighing my options, but I'm stuck with this car for a while, and I don't think its fair that those of us with crap cars should have to eat thousands in losses. Especially in this economy.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:55 AM   #2142
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So there are how many of us who own oil consuming 2012 models? Of the total owners out there, approximately what percentage would people guess own oil consuming 2012 models?
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:56 AM   #2143
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Its really starting to seem like more folks are noticing the loss of oil and complaining to soa. That is good.
If the unhappy owners keep the fire lit under soa's sorry a$$, maybe they'll end up witha recall. That's what I hope for.
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:10 PM   #2144
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Well there are/have been 15-20 owners on nasioc, several on Edmunds (including one account of an engine being replaced), and google finds a variety of sites with owners complaining. No one but soa knows the percentage. One troll-like asswipe on here spouts out percentages, but he has no real data.
The service staff at both dealers I've tried say the same things. "All the new subarus burn oil". And "we put an extra quart in since they burn so much oil now".
Grant at SOA took great delight in telling me burning through quarts between changes was normal. And that I shouldn't be complaining "topping off the oil every other tank of gas is YOUR job".
But new members seem to be coming in more regularly now with this issue.
Folks have slandered me, insulted me, and pretty much made it their hobby to somehow discredit me and blame me for this car being a turd.
But after working on and owning a ton of cars, the seat and the oil consumption are not something I feel I as a consumer should be stuck with.
I've tried getting things fixed, like the seat and a few other things. But no one at the dealer level knows anything about these new "wonder" models with the fb and fa engines. They know how to spout out sales pitches, but subaru did very little to nothing in terms of educating its staff about the new line.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:23 PM   #2145
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Wow... Inferiority complex much? It's you with the lack of reading comprehension. But you're obviously just in troll mode with 79, so have at it...
Again, I promised to not argue with idiots, you are no exception.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:53 PM   #2146
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But.... sometimes it's fun - right 79?
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:04 PM   #2147
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Update on my Impreza burning oil!!! It turns out that my Camshaft Sensors Seals where leaking. When the mechanic at the stealer showed me I could not believe it. Now here is the catch, they don't sell the seals separate from the sensor! So, SOA is going to send them two(2) new camshaft sensors. And it's all covered in my plan since the car is not even 1 year old yet! WTF! I thought I had a lemon for sure, but I guess time will tell, I am due an oil change in another 2,500 miles lets see how it runs out.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:14 PM   #2148
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^^ Well, this is interesting news. If the sensor seals are leaking on yours, they might be leaking for other people too.

Is this leak something that can be easily seen, or do you need to do much disassembly to view this leak? If it's something that can be easily seen, can you post pics letting others know where to look?
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:23 PM   #2149
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I'm looking at the service manual. Apparently there are four camshaft sensors:
  • Intake camshaft position sensor (right side)
  • Intake camshaft position sensor (left side)
  • Exhaust camshaft position sensor (right side)
  • Exhaust camshaft position sensor (left side)

I can't tell from the illustration in the service manual if it is possible to view these parts without removing a bunch of other stuff first. I'm guessing that the exhaust sensors would be especially hard to view, because they're on the underside of the engine.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:27 PM   #2150
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OK, now I'm looking at the sensor removal portion of the service manual. The intake sensors don't look like they should be too hard to see. The right intake sensor requires removing the air intake duct.

The exhaust sensors require removing the plastic belly pan, and that's it.

So they shouldn't be too hard to view, for those who are motivated. My Impreza isn't consuming oil, but if it was, I'd be checking this out!
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