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Old 08-25-2002, 08:10 AM   #1
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Default 03 Cobra 11.83 @ 118 mph , $1300 in mods

I was in LS1.COM reading about this guy with a new O3 Cobra that ran 11.83 @ 118 mph with only $1300 in mods. He had I believe a chip, pully, and exhaust (no nos). Basically the first mods a Lightning owner would get.


Thats serious performance. The only thing that makes me feel better is the cost. He has about 36k-40k total investment for the Cobra + $1300 in mods. Thats about 10k more than me.
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Old 08-25-2002, 10:16 AM   #2
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Yep. That def. doesn't shock me at all.

The 03 Cobra stock already runs 12's stock. It comes with a 4.6L DOHC, 390HP and 390lbs mated to a 6spd tranny.

Now weather you wish to spend 35K + for one of these puppies is in your own eyes.

One word describes this car, Yummy.
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Old 08-25-2002, 12:17 PM   #3
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Think of what it would cost us to see those 1/4 miles times? 11.83
I bet AL has spent about $40 k car and all on his mods. He still has not broke the 12 second barrier.And to think the mustang guy is just getting started....
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Old 08-25-2002, 02:59 PM   #4
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Well let's just try and see him drive in inclement weather

Two completely different cars ppl. The WRX is NOT a drag racer by design. Yeah, it can get the hole shot....yeah, it's quick for the money...But it's a rally car.

Oh trust me, I would love to have a '03 Cobra to take to "Cruise nights" and car shows. AND the dragstip. But I live everyday, back and forth to work and the WRX is perfect for that.


Oh and $1300 in mods eh? make that around $2000 now I reckon $700 for a roll cage if he wants to run sanctioned again
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Old 08-25-2002, 04:07 PM   #5
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Well let's just try and see him drive in inclement weather

Two completely different cars ppl. The WRX is NOT a drag racer by design. Yeah, it can get the hole shot....yeah, it's quick for the money...But it's a rally car.

Oh trust me, I would love to have a '03 Cobra to take to "Cruise nights" and car shows. AND the dragstip. But I live everyday, back and forth to work and the WRX is perfect for that.
Ditto. I can't imagine driving in snowy/icey conditions with that much torque and power. Those eaton blowers kick hard at low rpms...
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Old 08-25-2002, 04:29 PM   #6
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well technically anything faster than 12.99 needs a cage. so just a stock 03 cobra needs a cage to run more than once, assuming they run in the 12s. Musclemustangs&Fastfords mm&ff did a test on a bone stock cobra with only et streets....ran an 11.90 BONE STOCK. the only mod was rear draglights w/ 26-10.5 et streets. put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Old 08-25-2002, 04:39 PM   #7
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well technically anything faster than 12.99 needs a cage.
That's wrong. Check an NHRA rulebook.

Any convertible faster than 13.99 requires a roll bar.

Any hardtop car faster than 11.99 requires a 6 point roll bar.

Any hardtop car faster than 9.99 requires an 8/10 point roll cage which passes NHRA tech inspection.

IHRA rules are different. IHRA trackes don't require a 6 pt roll bar until 11.49.
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Old 08-25-2002, 04:51 PM   #8
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The WRX is NOT a drag racer by design. Yeah, it can get the hole shot....yeah, it's quick for the money...But it's a rally car.
Thats a purely subjective statement.

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...But it's a rally car.
and that is a very subjective statement.
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Old 08-25-2002, 09:59 PM   #9
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A dude up the street from where I live got one of these about 2 months ago. He took it (with less than 1000 miles on it!)totally stock, to the track and ran 11.9x 3 times that night...I couldn't believe how fast his car was...still doesn't handle all that well (IMHO) but it IS fast...faster than a stock Vette.
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Old 08-25-2002, 10:58 PM   #10
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Check out svtperformance.com

They have started too modify these cars and there getting
sick fast quick, pulley, cat back and a chip and there dynoing
450+ hp and 450+trq with less than 1500 bucks spent!!!

Can you say forged internals with 8:5 compression and a bullet
proof 6 spd trany. pretty good for the 34k price tag.

But it's still a ford and only rear wheel drive. i couldn't imagine this
car on a slick road or snow

I would love to see a big turbo hooked up to this engine i bet
you could get 700+hp no problem. just my 02cts later
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Old 08-25-2002, 11:14 PM   #11
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Just be real careful when messing with this cobra or you
might get you a$$ handed to ya. later
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Old 08-26-2002, 01:15 AM   #12
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Well let's just try and see him drive in inclement weather

Two completely different cars ppl. The WRX is NOT a drag racer by design. Yeah, it can get the hole shot....yeah, it's quick for the money...But it's a rally car.

Oh trust me, I would love to have a '03 Cobra to take to "Cruise nights" and car shows. AND the dragstip. But I live everyday, back and forth to work and the WRX is perfect for that.


Oh and $1300 in mods eh? make that around $2000 now I reckon $700 for a roll cage if he wants to run sanctioned again
I think the WRX is **NOT** a rally car. It's not designed to rally WHAT SO EVER. Subaru just happens to have a highly modified WRX they race with in Rally races. Our cars are merely weaksauce in comparison. If you read through your manual that came with your car, it states clearly that the WRX is NOT suitable nor designed to handle off-roading. Even though the WRX can handle the off-road terrain better than say, a Honda Civic. Our WRXs are merely street cars.

Just like the I-Club t-shirt says, "Any fool can drive fast in a straight line." Let's see the Cobra murder the WRX in an AutoX or Road Racing event.

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Old 08-26-2002, 03:24 AM   #13
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Funny you say it isnt a rally car, when the name WRX alone means "World Rally Champion". The car was designed that way, I think the book was written to prevent morons from mimicing what they saw in the commercials. Just look at every US rally that has been run this year, half the cars are Imprezas or WRX's. Ha, what do I care, I own a Legacy :monkey:

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Old 08-26-2002, 12:22 PM   #14
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Just like the I-Club t-shirt says, "Any fool can drive fast in a straight line." Let's see the Cobra murder the WRX in an AutoX or Road Racing event.

Jay
The only people who say that, are the ones with slow cars.

And if the course has long enough straightaways it will. Remeber the SCC article "Type-R vs Mustang". Mustang was barely slower due to straightaways. (talkinga bout road racing)
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Old 08-26-2002, 12:30 PM   #15
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I was in LS1.COM reading about this guy with a new O3 Cobra that ran 11.83 @ 118 mph with only $1300 in mods. He had I believe a chip, pully, and exhaust (no nos). Basically the first mods a Lightning owner would get.


Thats serious performance. The only thing that makes me feel better is the cost. He has about 36k-40k total investment for the Cobra + $1300 in mods. Thats about 10k more than me.
You can do the same thing with an 86 or 87 Grand National for about $1300 of mods. The car costs much less then $40,000!
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Old 08-26-2002, 12:52 PM   #16
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Amen brotha...should be getting my GN or Regal T-Type soon..
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Old 08-26-2002, 05:51 PM   #17
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You can do the same thing with an 86 or 87 Grand National for about $1300 of mods. The car costs much less then $40,000!
I'm a huge fan of turbo Regals (I will own one someday) but what a stupid comparison. You are comparing a brand new car to a 15 year old car. Of course it's going to be cheaper. The Cobra will have a nicer ride, handle better, brake better, etc. which is expected from such a newer car.

Also, there is no way in hell a turbo Regal will trap in the 118mph range with only $1300 in mods. TR's are like AWD vehicles, in that they ET really well for their trap speed. In order to get the top end out them you are going to need a bigger turbo with all the other supporting mods which will be more than $1300.

If you are going to be comparing bang for the buck, I can buy an older fox body Mustang for $2k but $8k in to it and smoke both for a $10k pricetag.

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Old 08-26-2002, 05:56 PM   #18
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Just remember guys, in the end it's still a Mustang...I wonder how fast the LS1's would be if GM offered them supercharged from the factory. I guess we'll never know since GM didn't have to throw a blower on to make them fast in the first place.
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Old 08-26-2002, 06:00 PM   #19
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Just remember guys, in the end it's still a Mustang...
And Subaru's are so much better? LOL!
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I wonder how fast the LS1's would be if GM offered them supercharged from the factory. I guess we'll never know since GM didn't have to throw a blower on to make them fast in the first place.
Yeah, they only needed 65 more ci.
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Old 08-26-2002, 07:23 PM   #20
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In order to get the top end out them you are going to need a bigger turbo with all the other supporting mods which will be more than $1300.
Not necessarily. Depends on the year... The GNX was very fast stock. One could argue that some slicks and NOS could do the job.

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I have to agree with Ethan's response to this statement...
people with slow cars tend say that.

What makes driving straight so easy? True its easier to drive straight in a stock AWD Scooby. But try it with 500hp. Or try a RWD Muscle car with that amount of power.

Its not always so easy.
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Old 08-26-2002, 07:48 PM   #21
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Not necessarily. Depends on the year... The GNX was very fast stock. One could argue that some slicks and NOS could do the job.
So now we aren't only comparing 15 year old cars but a model that only had 547 produced.

The very few GNX's that actually made it to the strip averaged around mid 13's at around 102-104mph stock. It's going to take quite bit to get them to the 118mph range.

Plus, a low mileage GNX just went for $42k on E-bay a couple of weeks ago. Looks like the price comparison just went out of the window.

Face it, some of you can be Mustang haters but the new Cobra's are hauling ass for only being on the streets a few months. Wait until some of the heavy hitter tuners rezally get their hands on them. Can you say 10 sec. daily drivers.

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Old 08-26-2002, 10:09 PM   #22
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Chris...

You know what would make that Cobra more awesome?
If it was a bit lighter... low 11s and high 10s would come fairly easy. I thinks its about 3500lbs! (about).
Personally I like the looks... but prefer the regular Mustang "faux" GT scoop look.

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To clear things up a bit Richy, I think the "Any fool" quote refers to straight line driving being easier that driving on a road course.
Hey Brucey, its still your subjective opinion about how hard it is to go straight vs curvey road courses. Try bracket racing sometime. It isnt as easy as you think.
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Old 08-26-2002, 10:39 PM   #23
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my best friend has a mineral grey.. the power curve on his dyno was unbelievable.. 300+ ft lb of torque between 2K and 6K RPMS... rising up to 350 at 4K.. he also made 360 HP at about 6K...

I need to decide tomorrow if i get rid of the WRX and get a Silver 03 Coupe in mid Sept..

fast.. yes.. but what surprised me is the truely unbeleivable way these cars hold the road.. his stock cobra holds the roads like my WRX with front/rear strut bars .. next to no body roll.. i was really really suprosed.. the car looks so low and squat aswell..i am so seriously considering it..i managed to get one for $34750.
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The only people who say that, are the ones with slow cars.
Amen!

It is the classic "I will take you in the twisties" ricer statement.


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Just like the I-Club t-shirt says, "Any fool can drive fast in a straight line." Let's see the Cobra murder the WRX in an AutoX or Road Racing event.

Jay
you know..i wont be surprised when it happens.. i thought my WRX out handled almost all other cars around.. until i drove in.. and drove the 03 Cobra.. thats the second time a Mustang has surprised me (1st one was by ripping my doors off in a lauch at a light..i never knew RWD cars could put 3 cars on a WRX when we both launched.. shows what Nitto 555Rs at 500 HP can do).
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