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Old 05-28-2012, 06:32 PM   #1
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Looking to do a headlight restore even though my headlights are fine. Just got a slight haze over it so I wanna make it clear as possible. When I buff the headlights should I worry about putting some sort of sealant on the lights since there is a lot of heat generated there? ( running 55w HID's) Some say to do it and some say don't
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Old 05-28-2012, 06:45 PM   #2
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polish them with an orbital and a fine wax... they will look good but once the wax wears off you will have to do it again and again and again...

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a long lasting solution:

wet sand the old stuff off the head light. use more rough grit and slowly work your way down to 3000 grit.

clean the headlight with a good cleaner that doesnt leave residue

take a foam brush and brush a light coat of CLEAR exterior polyurethane over the head light

let the lights dry for several hours. The streaks created from the foam brush will settle and your light will look brand new... Ive done this tons of times and all cars look new
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:53 PM   #3
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Those headlight restoration kits don't have that Clear exterior polyurethane, right? I would have to buy that as a separate thing? Also Im guessing 1000 grit paper is thicker and rougher than 3000 grit?
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I took the best solution and added to it basically what we do at the shop.

a long lasting solution:

wet sand the old stuff off the head light. use 600 grit and slowly work your way to 1000 grit.

Best practice is to use an air powered disk because it speeds things up

clean the headlight with a good cleaner that doesn't leave residue (denatured alcohol)

Then spray with renulight and back under the sun. Will look brand new. We do this at the shop and get payed 100 to do it. Works great.
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:25 PM   #5
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I took the best solution and added to it basically what we do at the shop.

a long lasting solution:

wet sand the old stuff off the head light. use 600 grit and slowly work your way to 1000 grit.

Best practice is to use an air powered disk because it speeds things up

clean the headlight with a good cleaner that doesn't leave residue (denatured alcohol)

Then spray with renulight and back under the sun. Will look brand new. We do this at the shop and get payed 100 to do it. Works great.
Gonna have to try this out, thanks!
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:48 PM   #6
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Supposed to say bake under the sun. Basically that spray takes UV light to cure. So do it on a sunny and non windy day. The can of spray costs about 35 bucks a can and will do 3-4 sets of headlights

I've done so many jettas, neons, and mustangs with that stuff it works great. We offer a 3yr/ 36k warranty on it so yeah it works
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:23 AM   #7
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Old 05-29-2012, 01:17 PM   #8
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spoon feeding me directions and products, I like
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Old 05-29-2012, 01:33 PM   #9
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Here is some before and after pictures just for ****s

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THIS IS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE CLEANED SANDED to 1,000 grit before spray
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wow! looks brand new. that before picture was so oxidized and crap looking
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Old 05-29-2012, 01:55 PM   #11
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wow! looks brand new. that before picture was so oxidized and crap looking
Yeah I asked the lady how she could see at night, the picture makes it look nicer than it was, and she told me well I just don't drive at night.
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ive just been buying the 8 dollar bottle at pep boys and do it after every wash and its working great
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:04 PM   #13
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ive just been buying the 8 dollar bottle at pep boys and do it after every wash and its working great
Why spend 8 bucks multiple times a year when you can spend 50ish and do it once...
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:36 PM   #14
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Yeah I asked the lady how she could see at night, the picture makes it look nicer than it was, and she told me well I just don't drive at night.
well im sure if she did she be able to see a LOT better.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:57 PM   #15
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well im sure if she did she be able to see a LOT better.
I know so plus in CO you would have to drive in the dark unless you go into hermit mode around 4:30pm during winter..

The problem with other solutions is that you will have to keep doing them over and over because they don't replace the UV prot coating.

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Old 05-29-2012, 11:11 PM   #16
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OP, just get the 3M scratch repair kit, not the headlight restoration kit. That Along with some 2000-2500 grit wet sanding should do the trick. After that use Meguiar's headlight sealant.
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I know so plus in CO you would have to drive in the dark unless you go into hermit mode around 4:30pm during winter..

The problem with other solutions is that you will have to keep doing them over and over because they don't replace the UV prot coating.
How about what XERO287 said? Mine really isn't oxidized just needs a touch up to make them clear and I was looking into the 3m kit, but adding the meguiar's sealant seems to be a good idea
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I took the best solution and added to it basically what we do at the shop.

a long lasting solution:

wet sand the old stuff off the head light. use 600 grit and slowly work your way to 1000 grit.

Best practice is to use an air powered disk because it speeds things up

clean the headlight with a good cleaner that doesn't leave residue (denatured alcohol)

Then spray with renulight and back under the sun. Will look brand new. We do this at the shop and get payed 100 to do it. Works great.
I tried the 3M kit and it was ok not great. I will definitely be doing this next time I need to! Those before and after pics are almost unreal.
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I tried the 3M kit and it was ok not great. I will definitely be doing this next time I need to! Those before and after pics are almost unreal.
The 3M still doesn't seal it, that's the problem with all these kits.

Here is another before and after


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I know, the 3M Headlight restoration kit is way too abrasive. Only god knows why you would need to have a 600 grit disc rotating at greater than 5k rpm. I Buy the 3M scratch repair kit (Comes with 2 pads. One is for compounding the other is for polishing, it also comes with a 3000 grit square of sandpaper). I also buy a pack of assorted high grit sandpaper ranging from 1500-2500.

Step 1: Spray headlights and 2000 grit sandpaper with water
Step 2: Rub sandpaper on headlight (Due about 2-3 passes)
The headlight should like white after this
Step 3: Spray headlights and 2500 grit sandpaper with water
Step 4: Repeat step 2
The headlight should still look cloudy and white but to a lesser degree
Step 5: Spray headlights and 3000 grit sandpaper with water
Step 6: Repeat step 2
Step 7: Wipe off headlight with microfiber cloth and inspect the light to make sure the surface is now smooth and the light has the finest of scratches.
Step 8: Mist the Purple Compounding pad with a spray of water then apply a dime size of compound.
Step 9: Start compounding the light making at least 4 passes or until the compound breaks down and you start to see through the light.
Step 10: Wipe light off with microfiber towel
Step 11: Mist the Black Polishing pad with a spray of water then apply a dime size of rubbing compound (Polish)
Step 12: Repeat step 9
Step 13: Repeat step 10
Step 14: Apply a dime size of Meguiar's Sealant to the black polishing pad
Step 15: Start Sealing the light making about 3 passes or until the light is fully clear and transparent
Step 16: After 10-15 minutes wipe light off with a clean microfiber towel to remove excess residue.
Step 17: Enjoy your new-looking headlight and take pictures to compare!
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meguiars has a new product that they came out with called headlight protectant.
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Right, that's what I've been saying...

http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-hea...rotectant.html
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Right, that's what I've been saying...

http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-hea...rotectant.html
"With regular use"

**** that

Do it once with renulite and be done with it
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jdub is basically saying the exact thing I've been saying for years... you have to SEAL the headlight or it will get worse once the polish wears off. I go as fine as 3000 grit when i restore head lights though.

That sealant is a nice solution and a good find. If you cant get that, clear exterior poly will work just as well.
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jdub is basically saying the exact thing I've been saying for years... you have to SEAL the headlight or it will get worse once the polish wears off. I go as fine as 3000 grit when i restore head lights though.

That sealant is a nice solution and a good find. If you cant get that, clear exterior poly will work just as well.
Finally someone gets it, you can go finer grit I just don't find it necessary with that compound we use.
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