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Old 05-29-2012, 11:23 AM   #1
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Default 2008 subaru 2.5 I almost killed wife and 14 month old son!

Hi I'm a new member here, I'm tottally disgusted with our Impreza. My wife decided to replace the battery @ advanced auto parts. Car didn't start for 5 tries "note 5 speed". She got it running let it sit for 10 mins then went to pull out car stalled in a 4 lane 55 mph road. A 99 ford f250 speeding didn't notice our car stalled he did miss the door but clipped the passenger side front bumper and fender. We were at fault deemed state police and state farm. The car has sat outside in the back yard for a year now still stalls and when you push the clutch in at 5 mph or more as to coast to a stop the engine revs wildly from idle to 3500 rpm until you let the clutch out. Subaru has told us everything is normal. . . . But its not since the new battery. Do I put it back on the road or burn it? 3 foot the truck would. Of killed my son!
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:26 AM   #2
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:27 AM   #3
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Car sat in the backyard in the elements for a year, and you didn't get it checked out? I find that its not the car at fault but more so the owner
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:28 AM   #4
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Car is ALWAYS at fault. "eye rolls"
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:31 AM   #5
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you are maybe one out of ten of thousands who have met this problem. also, I'm not trying to be rude but, you know what happens when you put a woman who doesn't know what is she doing and a car together? Disaster. Yes. Disaster.
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:45 AM   #6
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Key statement here
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We were at fault deemed state police and state farm.
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:52 AM   #7
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Car started (so anything after that is the alternator, or not knowing how to drive a stick very well, not the battery) so it wasn't the battery's fault once you were moving. You stalled in traffic and got hit.... (again not the car, but whoever stalled the car) Some fault could maybe go to the truck (like 10%) but no fault could go to your Subaru.

Two things on it never working right again.... It's been in an accident. Once a car has been hit, i dont care what brand it is, it's going to be weird twitchey form then on out. Furthermore, let any car sit in the elements for a year not being driven is also going to make it "twitchy and weird". You did both. I'd sell the car and get another Subaru, becuase the Subaru is the only thing in this whole story that did nothing wrong.
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:55 AM   #8
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:13 PM   #9
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Wife has driven 5 speed subaru's since 2002 when we got married. I drive the car now and then same issue pull out gov kicks in at 3000 rpm bucks around then will drive perfect but when you stop it always stalls and wount start until the fourth try. The car went to the dealer right after the hit. They claim since there is no problem codes they are unable to find the problem. I annoyed them by bringing it in. So it sits I let it idle 45 mins with a new "subaru" battery yet it stalls at every stop sign. Love the post if there is tens of thousands of people with a undrivable problem where is the service dept so unable to locate the problem? Why I joined to see if others have the problem? Why I have no trubble codes? And how they fixed the issue?
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:17 PM   #10
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This sounds like a very confusing situation. I wonder was done to the car before you bought it. Is it modified?

Is there a good independant shop that you can use? I think you need an expert to have sonme hands-on time with the car.

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Old 05-29-2012, 12:19 PM   #11
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If the car is truely acting the way you say it is.......and this behavior is repeatable, then bring it to the dealer and have a tech ride with you and let him see the behavior. And/Or let him drive the car.

If the behavior is not repeatable, what are they supposed to do? You can say that every 102nd time you put on your left directional, aliens lift your car 3 feet off the road and drop it. If you go in and try your directional 150 times and no aliens show, they can't duplicate the problem. What do you think they'll replace? Were codes present? What were they, if they were?

Subarus are not perfect. After the dealer told you that nothing was wrong, did you experience this again? Did you bring it back or give up? If you gave up, do you expect them to know and come out?

I really sympathise for your problems, but if you're not proactive in the diagnosis to some extent, then it's not going to be fixed. If you really don't trust the car anymore, sell it.
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:23 PM   #12
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Damage is right fender Head lamp bumper cover bumper reinforcement and hood. Car is still driveable. She now drives my 5 speed jeep. Lol This is my 5th subaru and never had this issue!
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:25 PM   #13
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What this is I don't even.
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:26 PM   #14
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Whenever i disconnect and reconnect battery power from my 08 2.5i it takes a couple turns to get the motor to start. i usually turn the key 3 times, remove, and insert and turn it one more time and it starts.
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:29 PM   #15
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Wife has driven 5 speed subaru's since 2002 when we got married. I drive the car now and then same issue pull out gov kicks in at 3000 rpm bucks around then will drive perfect but when you stop it always stalls and wount start until the fourth try. The car went to the dealer right after the hit. They claim since there is no problem codes they are unable to find the problem. I annoyed them by bringing it in. So it sits I let it idle 45 mins with a new "subaru" battery yet it stalls at every stop sign. Love the post if there is tens of thousands of people with a undrivable problem where is the service dept so unable to locate the problem? Why I joined to see if others have the problem? Why I have no trubble codes? And how they fixed the issue?
If you can repeat the issue, show it to the tech at Subaru.

What got you in danger is your wife- by not steering the car (using the car's momentum) towards the right shoulder. I see this from time to time on the highway and I always wonder why people dont use the remaining momentum to safely stop on the shoulder if the car is acting up/not working... Many years ago my front wheel hub came loose on the highway and I still managed to get to the shoulder. Cars are things, and in this case human error was the cause.
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:30 PM   #16
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Did you have them reflash the ECM or ECU? The battery has nothing to do with it stalling once you are driving. Remember these are giant computers with all the associated fun.
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:52 PM   #17
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Hi I'm a new member here, I'm tottally disgusted with our Impreza. My wife decided to replace the battery @ advanced auto parts. Car didn't start for 5 tries "note 5 speed". She got it running let it sit for 10 mins then went to pull out car stalled in a 4 lane 55 mph road. A 99 ford f250 speeding didn't notice our car stalled he did miss the door but clipped the passenger side front bumper and fender. We were at fault deemed state police and state farm. The car has sat outside in the back yard for a year now still stalls and when you push the clutch in at 5 mph or more as to coast to a stop the engine revs wildly from idle to 3500 rpm until you let the clutch out. Subaru has told us everything is normal. . . . But its not since the new battery. Do I put it back on the road or burn it? 3 foot the truck would. Of killed my son!
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Wife has driven 5 speed subaru's since 2002 when we got married. I drive the car now and then same issue pull out gov kicks in at 3000 rpm bucks around then will drive perfect but when you stop it always stalls and wount start until the fourth try. The car went to the dealer right after the hit. They claim since there is no problem codes they are unable to find the problem. I annoyed them by bringing it in. So it sits I let it idle 45 mins with a new "subaru" battery yet it stalls at every stop sign. Love the post if there is tens of thousands of people with a undrivable problem where is the service dept so unable to locate the problem? Why I joined to see if others have the problem? Why I have no trubble codes? And how they fixed the issue?
Assuming that this is a factory fault, and not driver error, you should take it into Subaru to get it checked out, immediately.

If it's Subaru of America's fault that this happened, and was abnormal and unexpected, you might be able to find a good lawyer that can make this "right".

That sucks what happened, but few and far between are owners not satisfied with both the safety and longevity of these cars. You're just extremely unlucky.
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Old 05-29-2012, 01:17 PM   #18
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If the car is truely acting the way you say it is.......and this behavior is repeatable, then bring it to the dealer and have a tech ride with you and let him see the behavior. And/Or let him drive the car.

If the behavior is not repeatable, what are they supposed to do? You can say that every 102nd time you put on your left directional, aliens lift your car 3 feet off the road and drop it. If you go in and try your directional 150 times and no aliens show, they can't duplicate the problem. What do you think they'll replace? Were codes present? What were they, if they were?

Subarus are not perfect. After the dealer told you that nothing was wrong, did you experience this again? Did you bring it back or give up? If you gave up, do you expect them to know and come out?

I really sympathise for your problems, but if you're not proactive in the diagnosis to some extent, then it's not going to be fixed. If you really don't trust the car anymore, sell it.
THIS. If you don't trust the dealer find a reputable shop to look at the vehicle. Obviously something isn't right, but you not taking the time to get it looked at to get fixed is stupid. If they can't get it to act up let them drive it till it acts up for them if you say this is problem that happens often.
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:07 PM   #19
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Thanks finally getting help. This is how the car runs now every day. Stalls every time the car comes to a stop. Why she didn't take the shoulder was she was in a panic. Had plenty of room to merge car just died and wouldn't restart. Area is a walmart / local mall so lots of turns traffic and intersections don't blame the truck owner. Car has 23k. They know what its doing they drove it. They want me to spend well over a grand on the ecu. Then if it acts up after that they will contact cherry hill and send there lemon guys out to inspect. We bought the car in AUG 07 never had an ecu go bad though! I should have the damages fixed if it is the ecu. Urrr why the car went "outback". We did have great luck with our other subarus just don't get what's up with this?
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:42 PM   #20
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Did they try to reflash the units before trying to get you to spend 1k on a new one? That should have been covered under warranty on the vehicle at the time of the issue depending on which part of the warranty it was under. Even if it wasn't most dealerships would probably good will that.
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:50 PM   #21
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I'd replace the TPS (or IAC valve if it has one) ASAP man.
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:36 PM   #22
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MAF sensor, vacuum leak, or damaged ECU wiring harness. I would think any decent Subaru shop could pinpoint this issue fairly easily. The fact that it stalls out and doesn't rev past 3000rpms sounds like a MAF sensor and/or small vacuum leak in the intake piping which opens up as the motor moves in it's mounts.
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:48 PM   #23
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Assuming that this is a factory fault, and not driver error, you should take it into Subaru to get it checked out, immediately.

If it's Subaru of America's fault that this happened, and was abnormal and unexpected, you might be able to find a good lawyer that can make this "right".

That sucks what happened, but few and far between are owners not satisfied with both the safety and longevity of these cars. You're just extremely unlucky.
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Thanks finally getting help. This is how the car runs now every day. Stalls every time the car comes to a stop. Why she didn't take the shoulder was she was in a panic. Had plenty of room to merge car just died and wouldn't restart. Area is a walmart / local mall so lots of turns traffic and intersections don't blame the truck owner. Car has 23k. They know what its doing they drove it. They want me to spend well over a grand on the ecu. Then if it acts up after that they will contact cherry hill and send there lemon guys out to inspect. We bought the car in AUG 07 never had an ecu go bad though! I should have the damages fixed if it is the ecu. Urrr why the car went "outback". We did have great luck with our other subarus just don't get what's up with this?
How long was the issue going on prior to the accident...
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:54 PM   #24
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They did claim to "flash" the ecu. She changed the battery in Oct 11 well past the 3 year warrenty. Now I'm sitting at advanced with their plug in code reader. It shows the tps working. How ever it reads ecu not calibrated drive 30 miles re-check. And its in closed loop. The car is warm and have 60 miles since the battery was connected? Going to take it 50 miles out of my way to another dealership see what they think. Since mine is also a dodge dealer I think they take the customer service from the dodge side of the shop lol.
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:47 PM   #25
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They did claim to "flash" the ecu. She changed the battery in Oct 11 well past the 3 year warrenty. Now I'm sitting at advanced with their plug in code reader. It shows the tps working. How ever it reads ecu not calibrated drive 30 miles re-check. And its in closed loop. The car is warm and have 60 miles since the battery was connected? Going to take it 50 miles out of my way to another dealership see what they think. Since mine is also a dodge dealer I think they take the customer service from the dodge side of the shop lol.
Usually "Subaru" shops that share other companies such as dodge, arent too good with the cars. They get less subarus. The parts guy around my way I literally have to give them the part numbers to get anything but damn if they cant tell me anything about the American crap they sell without even looking at the computer. From a technician stand point I would have you drive with the technician as already stated. If I cant duplicate the problem and have no codes to troubleshoot then I have nothing. Why would it stall on the customer (you) every single time but not on the technician. I have come to realize when I test drive with customers 3/4 of the time its the customer. The other 1/4 is the vehicle working as designed. I cant speak for Subaru but when we have trouble cars like yours and one of us Diagnostic technicians cant figure em out, we have engineers from the factory come give us a hand. So to think subaru just brushed it off sounds fishy IMO.
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