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Old 08-17-2012, 09:52 PM   #226
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Trollolol Zeeper, whats with the harsh words?
If your(your two-tone 2012 Impreza) brand new car that you worked your a$$ off for, burns oil on a regular basis, im sure you wouldn't just "top it off" every now and then. Im sure you would want to figure out why its burning oil, how you could fix it, and then wonder why your only one of only few people that have a oil consumption problem. You wouldnt just top it off and then make the problem dissapear temporarily. Thats just putting a bandaid over a bigger problem.
1) Not lazy at all, worked my a$$ off for 5 years to save enough money to pay the car off in full.
2)The dipstick is very easy to read. There is high mark, and a low mark. When the oil is below the low level after driving for 2000 km after an oil change, there may be a problem.
3)Oil is like blood to an engine. It needs it to run and not explode. It is important. thanks for reminding us oil consumption impreza folk.
4)I payed for the car in full.
5)Why would I want to dump my car? If im paying good money for it, then I would like subaru to follow through with the thing called a "Warranty." I like the car a lot, I want to have it for many many years, but I also want it to last for many many years. It may last long if I top it up every single week. But a new car shouldn't need to be topped up every week.

If I were to maintain the oil level of my car then I would have to fill up my oil everytime I fill up my gas. Besides, Subaru said that when the Oil light comes on, don't fill it up, bring it in to the service center and we will go from there. (all they ever do is top it up and say they are doing a oil consumption report)

So Zeeper, the guys that have an Impreza with an oil consumption are on this thread to find out a possible solution for this problem. We are not idiots that do not know how to maintain a car. We are here to get together to gain some knowledge and hear stories, successful, or unsuccessful ones about their car that consumes oil. We do not need to hear that we are "not that bright" or there is something wrong with us. You don't have to try to prove us wrong about a problem that we are living through, while you are happily enjoying your Impreza that has not oil consumption problem. But thanks for the positivity and helpful words on how to actually fix the problem.
Trollolloll -- I loved that video, that dude died recently, by the way. Famous for his way with words...

If my car was burning oil, I would have gone to the dealer before the first oil light appeared.

Of course I would have complained, and I would be here complaining, because the first thing I would have done after calling the dealer is googled and found this thread.

But from that point on I would be checking the oil and keeping it topped off, unless the dealer was performing the Oil Consumption Test that I would have demanded and they told me not to top it off.

But even in that case I would be at the dealer before the low oil light popped back on, because if I saw the oil level dropping and the rear of my car showing soot I would be at the dealer complaining again before the light popped back on.

Given my ample hope that Subaru would offer warranty remediation up to and including replacing the pistons or the compression rings, I would not be running my car low on oil knowing that there is no way they are going to replace my car completely, or the camshaft bearings, or any other internal parts unrelated to the likely source of the oil loss.

I certainly would not want other parts to be damaged that would impact my future enjoyment of the car or the longevity of the engine.

This is my second new car. I've driven plenty of beaters and I never take anything for granted.

I checked the oil and tire pressure first thing when I got the car home. This was good, because despite being shown the new vehicle prep check list initialled by the tech and being told by my salesperson that "of course they check the tire pressure" I found that they left the tires inflated over 40psi.

I can guarantee I would have noticed the oil loss well before the low oil light came on, because I checked it the day I got home and regularly thereafter.

I can double up on that promise and tell you if I had any suspicion that the car was burning oil I would be monitoring it a lot more often and topping it off --

Unless the dealer told me not to due to an oil consumption test.

But even in that case the car would be at the dealer before the light came on, because I would be up their -ss if I saw the oil level dropping close to the low oil mark on the dipstick.

I understand that the few of you with oil consumption issues are ticked off.

You should be, and you should be all over SOA (if you are in their region) and at your dealer complaining.

But you have a certain amount of responsibility to protect your own investment, whatever that is worth to you, and it isn't that complicated to top off your oil.

You will ultimately benefit by staying on top of the issue. No one will ever care about your car more than you could, including the dealer.

Should they come through and replace your pistons, the rest of your engine would appreciate your caring attention.
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Old 08-18-2012, 12:57 AM   #227
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I've got a 2003 honda cr-v that burns a lot of oil (at least a quart or two per 3000 mi), and has for 3 years or so. I just top it off as needed; it's a minor nuisance but not a big deal. If my new impreza burnt that much I'd definitely think something was up, but so far so good. The level has gone down a little bit in the 1300 miles since it was changed (oem oil & filter at 1100 miles, done myself) -- but it's still just above the full mark. Nothing that I consider problematic. I always carry at least a quart in the car just in case, after my experience with the cr-v.
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Old 08-18-2012, 11:10 AM   #228
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How is a brand new car consuming oil the drivers fault?

REALLY?

If there is 1 time in my life I want no worries about my car...it's when it's brand new, straight outta the showroom and under the 36k warranty.

If it's burning oil ANYWHERE near enough to warrant an oil top off.....You got me bent...something is very wrong. I recall my 2003 PT Cruiser 2.5L turbo. It never lost an ounce of oil and it had other stupid problems but really...as ****ty as that engine was...it got very hot....needed new plugs and wires WAY too early.....STILL did not burn oil.
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Old 08-18-2012, 11:55 AM   #229
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How is a brand new car consuming oil the drivers fault?

REALLY?

If there is 1 time in my life I want no worries about my car...it's when it's brand new, straight outta the showroom and under the 36k warranty.

If it's burning oil ANYWHERE near enough to warrant an oil top off.....You got me bent...something is very wrong.
Who said it was the drivers fault?

If the car is burning oil something is wrong, Subaru should fix it.

Meanwhile if your car is burning oil, it is incumbent on you to top it off, don't wait for the idiot light (if you care about the longevity of the engine).
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:56 PM   #230
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^^ Agreed. I would be adding oil to my car UNLESS the dealer is asking you not to (In writing). Blowing up your motor on the chance they will cover it under warranty is risky and silly.
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:31 PM   #231
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^^ Agreed. I would be adding oil to my car UNLESS the dealer is asking you not to (In writing). Blowing up your motor on the chance they will cover it under warranty is risky and silly.
There is actually some precedent for Subaru -- 2010-2011 Foresters (pre-FB series boxer engines) that were consuming oil due to misbored intake/valve guides holes.

The TSB warranty remediation included replacement of the cylinder heads, not the entire engine, and not a new car for affected owners.

That means if other parts of the engine were affected by low oil (lubrication or heat issues, abnormal wear, etc) those parts were neither replaced nor serviced by Subaru during their warranty repair.
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Old 08-19-2012, 05:29 AM   #232
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Here's my oil burning story. Pretty much same as all of you. Oil light at 1200 miles. Called the dealer , they say add oil. Emailed and called SOA..not much help, but at least they have record of the situation. Oil light came on again today 5560 miles. Emailed SOA again. Called the dealer and made an appt. oil level in within normal range. Should I add some oil or leave it alone? The dealer is about 10-15 miles away.
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Old 08-19-2012, 06:46 AM   #233
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Here's my oil burning story. Pretty much same as all of you. Oil light at 1200 miles. Called the dealer , they say add oil. Emailed and called SOA..not much help, but at least they have record of the situation. Oil light came on again today 5560 miles. Emailed SOA again. Called the dealer and made an appt. oil level in within normal range. Should I add some oil or leave it alone? The dealer is about 10-15 miles away.
This is my point...you have a brand new car and the oil light is coming on as if it's an old clunker you bought for $1500 or something with 100k miles on it.

It's just not right to deal with that sort of stress after buying a brand new car. If everyone's brand new car did that...that's one thing. However...it's not a NORMAL thing to worry about and something is wrong that they aren't addressing apparently.

You drive off the lot and nothing should happen to your car for a good 30k in my opinion. Is that too much to ask?

Topping off oil in a brand new car....no thanks.

My GF's has a 1999 Nissan Altima with 200k on it and the oil light doesn't even come on...like....come on....

Something stinks.....
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This is my point...you have a brand new car and the oil light is coming on as if it's an old clunker you bought for $1500 or something with 100k miles on it.

It's just not right to deal with that sort of stress after buying a brand new car. If everyone's brand new car did that...that's one thing. However...it's not a NORMAL thing to worry about and something is wrong that they aren't addressing apparently.

You drive off the lot and nothing should happen to your car for a good 30k in my opinion. Is that too much to ask?

Topping off oil in a brand new car....no thanks.

My GF's has a 1999 Nissan Altima with 200k on it and the oil light doesn't even come on...like....come on....

Something stinks.....
Couldn't agree with you more. That's why my car will be gone before the warranty runs out.
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This is my point...you have a brand new car and the oil light is coming on as if it's an old clunker you bought for $1500 or something with 100k miles on it.

It's just not right to deal with that sort of stress after buying a brand new car. If everyone's brand new car did that...that's one thing. However...it's not a NORMAL thing to worry about and something is wrong that they aren't addressing apparently.

You drive off the lot and nothing should happen to your car for a good 30k in my opinion. Is that too much to ask?

Topping off oil in a brand new car....no thanks.

My GF's has a 1999 Nissan Altima with 200k on it and the oil light doesn't even come on...like....come on....

Something stinks.....
im guessing the 1999 nissan altima didnt have an oil light. My 2001 Nissan xterra didnt.
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Old 08-19-2012, 10:44 AM   #236
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Perhaps we are on different dimensions. If you can put up with my sentence structure or lack there of i can put up with your inability to spell.

Also you can drop the whole Ego and Troll bit. Asking those questions provides a logical way of accessing an oil issue.
Always funny when someone criticizes someone's spelling, then spells a word wrong in the process!

You should have said, "...provides a logical way of assessing an oil issue."

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SOA email response after i inquired about it:

Thank you for contacting Subaru of America, Inc.

We appreciate you taking the time to share your concerns with us. At Subaru, we have a well-defined quality monitoring process. Whenever we launch a new design, we vigorously test that model to continually ensure the product lives up to Subaru standards. If we find a potential quality issue, we take a proactive approach to inspect and repair, if necessary, any affected vehicles.

At this time, I'm not aware of this information you are reading on the Internet. There have been no recalls and/or service campaigns issued related to this matter.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please let me know.

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SOA email response after i inquired about it:

Thank you for contacting Subaru of America, Inc.

We appreciate you taking the time to share your concerns with us. At Subaru, we have a well-defined quality monitoring process. Whenever we launch a new design, we vigorously test that model to continually ensure the product lives up to Subaru standards. If we find a potential quality issue, we take a proactive approach to inspect and repair, if necessary, any affected vehicles.

At this time, I'm not aware of this information you are reading on the Internet. There have been no recalls and/or service campaigns issued related to this matter.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please let me know.

Best wishes,
Sounds like what they don't know, won't hurt them. We need more people with these problems to contact them.
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Here's my oil burning story. Pretty much same as all of you. Oil light at 1200 miles. Called the dealer , they say add oil. Emailed and called SOA..not much help, but at least they have record of the situation. Oil light came on again today 5560 miles. Emailed SOA again. Called the dealer and made an appt. oil level in within normal range. Should I add some oil or leave it alone? The dealer is about 10-15 miles away.
The oil light is on, but the level is in the normal range? That indicates a faulty sensor, not low oil or oil consumption -- right?

What I would do: I would drive to the dealer Monday morning, have them document the oil light is on, and top off the oil if they think that is the issue.

What I wouldn't do: drive around for a long time with the low oil light on.
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The oil light is on, but the level is in the normal range? That indicates a faulty sensor, not low oil or oil consumption -- right?
Correct me if I'm wrong. We have two oil lights in our cars: one for oil level, and another for oil pressure.

I consider the oil level light to be a shot across the bow that the level is dropping, but it's not yet low enough for there to be a loss of oil pressure.

If the oil pressure light comes on, that's the red alert that you're about to damage your engine if you don't shut it off NOW.

The rate at which a car consumes oil would determine how many miles there are between the oil level light and the oil pressure light turning on. So the oil level light does not indicate that you're doing damage to your engine; instead, it's a warning that the oil is approaching the point at which there could be a drop in oil pressure.
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There are two warning lights, and neither one should be lit or regularly lighting up during driving.

The one people are talking about here seems to be the low oil light, which indicates probable oil consumption.

However if the light is on but the oil is within the dots on the dipstick, that indicates a faulty sensor, because there isn't a low oil condition.

If the low oil light is coming on because the car is consuming oil, I've already pointed out why topping it off is in your best interest, even if the car is consuming oil, because what you don't want to see is the low oil pressure warning light.

If the low oil pressure light comes on, shut off the engine and get it towed. Let the dealer figure out if the message is valid or not, because assuming it is a faulty light could cost you the engine.
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Zeeper, I think you and I are saying the same thing.
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Couldn't agree with you more. That's why my car will be gone before the warranty runs out.
Good 4 u dude. Let us know what you get afterwards.
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Always funny when someone criticizes someone's spelling, then spells a word wrong in the process!

You should have said, "...provides a logical way of assessing an oil issue."

actually i used a wrong word instead of spelling it incorrectly. consider yourself corrected

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actually i used a wrong word instead of spelling it incorrectly. consider yourself corrected
What's the difference? It's the same as 'your' and 'you're'....just because they are both words and you use the wrong one incorrectly, doesn't mean you didn't spell it correctly!
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What's the difference? It's the same as 'your' and 'you're'....just because they are both words and you use the wrong one incorrectly, doesn't mean you didn't spell it correctly!
Wrong context
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Just want to confirm with you all, where are the low oil light and low oil pressure light located on the display. The oil light which is coming on yellow is located on the lower left below the speedometer.
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What's the difference? It's the same as 'your' and 'you're'....just because they are both words and you use the wrong one incorrectly, doesn't mean you didn't spell it correctly!
Don't worry about Auskip- he can't spell, has horrible grammar and vocabulary skills. He also started arguing with me that the tailpipe wasn't on the passenger side of the car. I doubt he actually has a 2012 impreza. Troll.
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What's the difference? It's the same as 'your' and 'you're'....just because they are both words and you use the wrong one incorrectly, doesn't mean you didn't spell it correctly!
Lol that "top ten" school, Auburn, they must have a horrible English program.
Don't worry about Auskip- he can't spell, has horrible grammar and vocabulary skills. He also started arguing with me that the tailpipe wasn't on the passenger side of the car. I doubt he actually has a 2012 impreza. Troll.
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Lol that "top ten" school, Auburn
Im aware of where you dropped out ,but where did you actually get your degree?

I promise you i will have my car longer than you will have yours. Not because of oil issues or seat issues or anything that can be remedied, but because im not a whiny little bitch.

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