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Old 10-31-2012, 03:47 AM   #51
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Why are you still here? We don't care about Soichiro Honda's jizz stains on your chin. If 1.6L engines get your **** wet, then go to honda-tech and have fun.
Let's see why I'm still here refer to thread

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2419347

I once had a 2009 Impreza It was an absolute POS. I come here to gain knowledge of the all new FB and FA engines. The and to the looks of thoes new engines Subaru still is not on par with Honda or Toyota or even Nissan. The FB in the Forrester had all kinds of problems when it initially came out. Do you see nasty problems when an all new Honda or Toyota motor is released? The answer is rarely yes but mostly no. The same goes for Nissan. Subaru really needs to spend more $$ on RD
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Old 10-31-2012, 03:54 AM   #52
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And those videos have nothing to do with the cars you're talking about, just like the rest of your mindvomit in this thread.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:02 AM   #53
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And those videos have nothing to do with the cars you're talking about, just like the rest of your mindvomit in this thread.
Get it through your thick numb skull Subaru's have the worse resale value and their absolute junk. Mine had all kinds of issues from the get go transmission then power steering then the throttle body. And no one uses boxer engines except Porche and some BMW motorcycles. Their garbage. If they were really that good other car manufacturers would be using them and perfecting them. The Wankel Rotary is even better than the Boxer motor. But that type of motor only appears in Mazda's because Mazda has exclusive right to Rotary engines.

Also... People with Harleys and Corvettes would ask me if there's something wrong with my engine because it sounds like it's running on 2 cylinders.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:19 AM   #54
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Let's see why I'm still here refer to thread

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I once had a 2009 Impreza It was an absolute POS. I come here to gain knowledge of the all new FB and FA engines. The and to the looks of thoes new engines Subaru still is not on par with Honda or Toyota or even Nissan. The FB in the Forrester had all kinds of problems when it initially came out. Do you see nasty problems when an all new Honda or Toyota motor is released? The answer is rarely yes but mostly no. The same goes for Nissan. Subaru really needs to spend more $$ on RD
Translation: you're a troll.

And Subaru sells less than 1/4 the numbers Honda does, even with their recent growth.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:32 AM   #55
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Get it through your thick numb skull Subaru's have the worse resale value and their absolute junk.
1: which is why KBB gave them an award for resale value last year...
2: what the **** does that have to do with your videos?
3: you lose all credibility when you attempt to insult someone's intelligence, but consistently use "their" instead of "they're"
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And no one uses boxer engines except Porche and some BMW motorcycles. Their garbage. If they were really that good other car manufacturers would be using them and perfecting them.
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Like Porsche?
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The Wankel Rotary is even better than the Boxer motor. But that type of motor only appears in Mazda's because Mazda has exclusive right to Rotary engines.
1: They suck gas like your mom sucks dick.
2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_C111
"If they were really that good other car manufacturers would be using them and perfecting them." - some dumbass

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Also... People with Harleys and Corvettes would ask me if there's something wrong with my engine because it sounds like it's running on 2 cylinders.
You probably put UEL headers on it. Mine sounds just fine.
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:13 AM   #56
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1: which is why KBB gave them an award for resale value last year...
2: what the **** does that have to do with your videos?
3: you lose all credibility when you attempt to insult someone's intelligence, but consistently use "their" instead of "they're"

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Like Porsche?

1: They suck gas like your mom sucks dick.
2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_C111
"If they were really that good other car manufacturers would be using them and perfecting them." - some dumbass



You probably put UEL headers on it. Mine sounds just fine.
You're just pissed because I blew your ass out of the water. And you know I'm damn str8 right. Look under the Warranty section of NASIOC everyone with the the Impreza with the FB20 is disappointed in the MPG. People are everaging 30 at best when the sticker mpg says 36mpg. This once again shows how unreliable Subaru is. I'm able to get 45mpg in my car. The Audi people also hate Subaru's because their considered the poor mans AWD. The VCU AWD system is garbage; however the Sti and Evo both have an AWD system similar to Audi's quattro system. It's still quite a shock how many people are upset and regret their new Impreza purchase. the MPG sucks. This is another reason why nothing is really out there about a new WRX or STi. It's a gas guzzler and Toyota wont have that. I'm surprised they didn't fully absorb Subaru. If they don't absorb we could possibly see Subaru being cast out of Toyota because the BRZ is already having problems. Toyota does not want anymore tarnishing of their brand. Ikuo Mori has clearly stated that without Toyota Subaru cannot survive in the current economic situation.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:32 AM   #57
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You're just pissed because I blew your ass out of the water. And you know I'm damn str8 right.
You're delusional. I refuted each of your BS "arguments"
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Look under the Warranty section of NASIOC everyone with the the Impreza with the FB20 is disappointed in the MPG. People are everaging 30 at best when the sticker mpg says 36mpg.
The sticker says 36 *highway* and 30 combined, on the CVT. If people are mad about getting exactly the rated fuel economy, they're dumber than you are.
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This once again shows how unreliable Subaru is.
Fuel economy = reliability now. Good to know.
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The Audi people also hate Subaru's because their considered the poor mans AWD.
Good for them. But since you care so much about reliability, maybe Audi is not the best brand to bring up...
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The VCU AWD system is garbage;
Which is why Audi uses it on the R8 and every AWD Lamborghini until the Aventador.
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however the Sti and Evo both have an AWD system similar to Audi's quattro system.
Yeah! Except not really. Audi has used a variety of systems branded as "quattro", only one of which is similar to the DCCD.
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It's still quite a shock how many people are upset and regret their new Impreza purchase. the MPG sucks.
You see these people because you seek them out. That shouldn't be a shock to you.
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I'm surprised they didn't fully absorb Subaru. If they don't absorb we could possibly see Subaru being cast out of Toyota because the BRZ is already having problems. Toyota does not want anymore tarnishing of their brand.
1: They would be absolutely moronic to ditch a company that is seeing a 25% increase in sales from last year.
2: the BRZ's "problem" was a misprint in some owners manuals.
3: Toyota just issued a recall *this month* for 7.4 MILLION cars worldwide. All because a window switch could cause a fire.

Now, please, leave this thread. You've proven nothing except that you're butthurt about your Impreza and have let that blind you to easily obtainable facts. You've dodged more questions in this thread than Mitt Romney has about FEMA.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:12 AM   #58
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I could honestly watch you fact check this dude all day long, it's hilarious how wrong he is...even if he's a troll he's doing a piss poor job of it.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:54 PM   #60
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You're delusional. I refuted each of your BS "arguments"

The sticker says 36 *highway* and 30 combined, on the CVT. If people are mad about getting exactly the rated fuel economy, they're dumber than you are.

Fuel economy = reliability now. Good to know.

Good for them. But since you care so much about reliability, maybe Audi is not the best brand to bring up...

Which is why Audi uses it on the R8 and every AWD Lamborghini until the Aventador.



Yeah! Except not really. Audi has used a variety of systems branded as "quattro", only one of which is similar to the DCCD.

You see these people because you seek them out. That shouldn't be a shock to you.


1: They would be absolutely moronic to ditch a company that is seeing a 25% increase in sales from last year.
2: the BRZ's "problem" was a misprint in some owners manuals.
3: Toyota just issued a recall *this month* for 7.4 MILLION cars worldwide. All because a window switch could cause a fire.

Now, please, leave this thread. You've proven nothing except that you're butthurt about your Impreza and have let that blind you to easily obtainable facts. You've dodged more questions in this thread than Mitt Romney has about FEMA.
I never mentioned Audi as a reliable brand but their quattro system in bulletproof. Audi's are just like VW's Junk.... Now back to the FB motor at the FA in the BRZ.



SOA issued a TSB for faulty cam problems. Forresters with 3k miles started showing signs. This is really bad. I almost feel as though the motor is has the same reliability aspects as the Yugo.... Junk... And the FA is already having ECU issues that are leading to missfires and rough idles and stalling. Really Subaru....? Common dump more $ into RD


Now the burden of proof is on you to somehow explain why these engines are having so many problems from the get go. I will say this though... Even though so many buyers of the Impreza FB20 are upset because of mpg. I will say this.... The FB20 hasn't shown any problems from the get go, so this is a good sign. And as far as reliability goes and MPG. You're comment was ridiculous. Honda and Toyota got rid of their sports cars because they eat gas. The Internal Combustion Engine has it's days numbered. It's amazing how a Tesla can out run a 911 and a Ferrari F12berlinett with absolutely no effort Electric is 100% the way to go, but we need to develop higher energy density batteries. My electric motor acts as a super charger when the batter is fully charged. Lithium Ion is a good technology but the energy density isn't there. Lithium Polymer is also good but we've already seen the Volt batteries explode because LiPo is so sensitive. NiMH is the more reliable and can resist over charging and heat. NiZn is the only battery technology that isn't used in vehicles. I went to the LA auto show and saw the new NSX which is a hybrid..... Gas super cars are only for the rich that have so much money that they don't know what to do with it. The LFA is a perfect example.
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:45 PM   #61
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I'm done with you.

FYI, Tesla 0-60 3.7s. F12 0-62 ≈3.1s
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:14 PM   #62
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I'm done with you.

FYI, Tesla 0-60 3.7s. F12 0-62 ≈3.1s
That's right bitch.... I pwned your ass. Stop saying I'm naive and stupid. Look at the videos. The burden of proof is there and it's on you to explain why these motors have such nasty problems. I can understand minor recalls like maybe the AC unit or navigation, but all of these problems in the videos are very very serious. Serious meaning they could leave you stranded. I've lost all trust in Subaru.
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This thread is like a multiple car crash, it's an absolute frickin' disaster but I can't help coming back for another look
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:26 PM   #64
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Get it through your thick numb skull Subaru's have the worse resale value and their absolute junk. Mine had all kinds of issues from the get go transmission then power steering then the throttle body. And no one uses boxer engines except Porche and some BMW motorcycles. Their garbage. If they were really that good other car manufacturers would be using them and perfecting them. The Wankel Rotary is even better than the Boxer motor. But that type of motor only appears in Mazda's because Mazda has exclusive right to Rotary engines.

Also... People with Harleys and Corvettes would ask me if there's something wrong with my engine because it sounds like it's running on 2 cylinders.
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You're just pissed because I blew your ass out of the water. And you know I'm damn str8 right. Look under the Warranty section of NASIOC everyone with the the Impreza with the FB20 is disappointed in the MPG. People are everaging 30 at best when the sticker mpg says 36mpg. This once again shows how unreliable Subaru is. I'm able to get 45mpg in my car. The Audi people also hate Subaru's because their considered the poor mans AWD. The VCU AWD system is garbage; however the Sti and Evo both have an AWD system similar to Audi's quattro system. It's still quite a shock how many people are upset and regret their new Impreza purchase. the MPG sucks. This is another reason why nothing is really out there about a new WRX or STi. It's a gas guzzler and Toyota wont have that. I'm surprised they didn't fully absorb Subaru. If they don't absorb we could possibly see Subaru being cast out of Toyota because the BRZ is already having problems. Toyota does not want anymore tarnishing of their brand. Ikuo Mori has clearly stated that without Toyota Subaru cannot survive in the current economic situation.
You have absolutely no idea what your are taking about, especially when it comes to awd systems.

I'm actually embarrassed to read this diarrhea you spew. Anyone can mine google for regurgitation of numbers and words.

If you are so butt hurt by your impreza experience go rant on you tube or some place where mindless retards will soak up your garbage. Your time and effort is futile here. Not that it's worth anything. You are obviously a not so intelligent member of society. That's easy enough to see when you write "str8" instead of the English word, "straight".
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:03 AM   #65
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That's right bitch.... I pwned your ass.
Maybe in your wonderful fantasy world where Hondas are perfect and Audi has but one AWD system.
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I never called you naive.
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Look at the videos. The burden of proof is there and it's on you to explain why these motors have such nasty problems.
1: you apparently don't understand the phrase "burden of proof."
2: It is not on me to explain ****.
3: they're brand new designs. Why don't you go to a Toyota forum and troll them about broken camshafts in the Tundra? Or spare tires falling off the back of the Sienna and Tundra. Perhaps you'd like someone to visit whatever Honda forum you're on and bitch about CR-Vs catching fire, or Accords and TLs destroying power steering hoses and spraying fluid in the engine bay?

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I can understand minor recalls like maybe the AC unit or navigation, but all of these problems in the videos are very very serious. Serious meaning they could leave you stranded.
You make it sound like someone is going to die because of noise from a cylinder head. It's not like **** is falling off, or they're randomly catching on fire.
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Fine. Go somewhere that cares.
Or you can go back to OT and post about how badass you are with random drugs. At least there they're comfortable with telling you to end yourself.
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You have absolutely no idea what your are taking about, especially when it comes to awd systems.

I'm actually embarrassed to read this diarrhea you spew. Anyone can mine google for regurgitation of numbers and words.

If you are so butt hurt by your impreza experience go rant on you tube or some place where mindless retards will soak up your garbage. Your time and effort is futile here. Not that it's worth anything. You are obviously a not so intelligent member of society. That's easy enough to see when you write "str8" instead of the English word, "straight".
There's no need for me to make a video there's already several. Here's the one that really makes me laugh at those that say Subaru's are great cars

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End of story. You all know it and I know it... Subaru's are junk and are far more inferior to Mazda, Nissan, Honda, and Toyota. They continue to use the boxer motor setup which has been proven time and time again to be outdated and unreliable. If Subaru's were such great cars, then why do you never hear of them as that? If I went to a bar or out to dinner with office co workers and asked about advice on a car that is hassle free. I'm sure no one would mention a Subaru just as they would never mention a Saab. JUNK!
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:59 AM   #69
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there's no way you're not a troll. nobody is this stupid on purpose unless they're functionally retarded.

but i'm a hopeful man, and i'm bored tonight. maybe you're actually serious and just spent too much time surfing honda-tech? or got into some bath salts? this might be surprising, but some people on a subaru site are going to disagree just a little bit on your vast, sweeping generalities.

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Now back to the FA/FB motor. From what I have read it's still an open deck motor which is an absolute disaster. The EJ255 is close deck which made it so much more reliable.
when has open deck not been fine for NA? whoopsie, 255's are open as well. it would have taken you slightly more than 20 seconds to search that out.

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I also think it's outdated to use timing chains. They are harder to replace more costly and stretch over time. Oh and they make the motor noisy.
oh, you mean like the chains in the F20, K20, and L15 for example.

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I can take your STi or WTX once I'm fully built any day. The Impreza is a boat compared to the CR-Z or Fit. This will be a Auto X race not a lame from a dig race unless I can get the KW of the electric motor to produce 20 more hp. Lets not forget 180hp is just the gas motor not the electric included so 193hp is a more accurate number. 193 is plenty for such a small car. I'll be in 3rd at 11krpm while you'll be in 5th by the time I reach 4th. I love how S2000 shock STi/EVO owners when they pull them so hard as the rev high.
so awesome good luck with autocrossing it, i hear high-powered FWD cars are always at such an advantage over the ones with more traction.

193 horsepower! **** me sideways, you're gonna kill someone if you don't wield that with caution. isn't that only 3 more than a decade-old type-r, except in a chassis with awful suspension? but you'll do fine. i'm sure getting 11k rpm out of Honda's biggest economy car engine will be very cheap and will make a lot more sense than a K swap.

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LOL explode? Explain? Honda is far superior to Subaru.
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Forget the S2000
that worked out well! Deflection: the hallmark of all worthless arguments.

even a random S2000 owner wanders in to tell you you're ignorant. have fun with your AP1 S2000 eating valves thanks to failed valve retainers while you're at it.
http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/1429...re-at-9000rpm/
all cars have issues. get used to it.

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I've seen older Si's with the B16 beat a WRX.
hopefully "not a lame from a dig race"

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I once had a 2009 Impreza It was an absolute POS. I come here to gain knowledge of the all new FB and FA engines. The and to the looks of thoes new engines Subaru still is not on par with Honda or Toyota or even Nissan. The FB in the Forrester had all kinds of problems when it initially came out. Do you see nasty problems when an all new Honda or Toyota motor is released? The answer is rarely yes but mostly no. The same goes for Nissan. Subaru really needs to spend more $$ on RD
sorry your car was junk, seriously. but its not as common as you want to believe. again, all cars have problems, it happens.

at least you're not one of the thousands of people affected by toyota's engine sludge issues which ruin the entire engine in one fell swoop.
http://www.yotarepair.com/sludge_zone.html

and of course that's not even getting in to the engine issues with other makes, which i don't have time for.

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Subaru's have the worse resale value and their absolute junk.
sweet Zeus's balls. where do you come up with this?

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And no one uses boxer engines except Porche and some BMW motorcycles. Their garbage. If they were really that good other car manufacturers would be using them and perfecting them. The Wankel Rotary is even better than the Boxer motor.
WTF? guys - news flash, the past 50 years of Porsche motorsports history is a clever ruse, it was all rigged, they were using garbage engines. there's no way its viable because my car is broken. oh you silly Germans you! this 600k mile, 600 horsepower daily driven 911 that's older than you is totally fake.
http://www.excellence-mag.com/issues...1#.UJIJFm-TfmE

i see you also went full rotard. never go full rotard.

the Renesis has been such a great success that even after bringing additional rebuilding facilities online in the US after a massive number of engine failures, they still cancelled the car after 2 model runs. i've heard stories of 2 or 3 engine replacements just within the warranty period. horrible efficiency, flooding, seal oiling issues, carbon-plugged ports...i can't wait, where do i sign up!?

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The Audi people also hate Subaru's because their considered the poor mans AWD. The VCU AWD system is garbage; however the Sti and Evo both have an AWD system similar to Audi's quattro system.
my last car was a '99 A4 Quattro. i sold it after the well-maintained engine sludged up and oil starved for my subaru because it was a better quality car and the AWD is comparable.

the Audi system is entirely mechanical you colossal toolbag. center torsen and front/rear are open or LSD depending on the car. the STi/Evo use a clutch pack for the center. again, 20 second on google.

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It's amazing how a Tesla can out run a 911 and a Ferrari F12berlinett with absolutely no effort


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Gas super cars are only for the rich that have so much money that they don't know what to do with it.
do you know why this is? its because ALL supercars cost a ****-ton of money. THATS WHY THEY'RE SUPERCARS. how is it that this needs explaining?

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My electric motor acts as a super charger when the batter is fully charged
will it supercharge you off a cliff?

enjoy your supercharged crx-disgracing dustbuster, and call us when you're pulling STi's in 3rd gear VTAC at 10k rpm during the next Racewarz.





so ah.....guys, those FA20's, how sweet is that oil filter location? man i love that.
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the Audi system is entirely mechanical you colossal toolbag. center torsen and front/rear are open or LSD depending on the car. the STi/Evo use a clutch pack for the center. again, 20 second on google.
Well, like I mentioned, Audi did have a system similar to DCCD for a little while. It was only used on V8s with an automatic though.
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so ah.....guys, those FA20's, how sweet is that oil filter location? man i love that.
That's probably my favorite feature of the FB motors. It almost makes me wish my parents had gotten the Forester instead of the Outback.
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