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Old 08-02-2012, 02:52 PM   #176
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WOW.. remind me never to drive in the states... afaik in canada, if the car gets pulled into a shop and has a major safety issue with it, like no brake rotor left or cracked lines, dynamic adjustible toe... the shop is legally liable if they let that car back on the road. They are within their rights to remove the plates off a car if the customer refuses to fix it and tries to put it back on the road.

Ever since working in that shop I have said that I beleive gas station attendants and shop mechanics should be able to legally stop someone from driving whether it be for mechanical reason or other reasons.

Here's a perfect example of why:

A little old lady pulled in one evening after the mechanics had all gone home. I went out and pumped her gas , checked her oil and tires all the usually stuff they used to do for you at gas stations.

After words I go in and go back to my duties in the garage of scraping all the oil and fluid stains with quick dry and sweeping them up. After several minutes I go up to the front room to refill my coffee and the old ladies stillt here in her car. She 's moving around in there though so I figure she's just doing something before she goes and go back to my work. A little more time goes by and I notice she is still out there. So I go back outside walk up to her window and ask if she needs anything.

She informs me that her car just won't go. She tells me she steps on the gas and she can hear the engine but it just doesn't go. She then proceeds to show me by stepping on the gas and of course she is right the car doesnt go anywhere. At this point I explain to her that the car is in park and she has to put it into drive to go.

Of course she does this while stepping on the gas and then is suddenly off like John Force across the lot. Amazingly she got her foot off the gas and onto the brake quick enough to not have an accident but then she just pulls on out of the lot and drive right on down the road.

All I can say is thank god newer cars make you step on the break to get out of park but then again I've seen plenty of old people with their left on the break and their right on the gas.
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:58 PM   #177
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I use to work at discount tire. You wouldn't believe some of the things we found inside tire.

An entire screwdriver was bouncing around inside one once. It was about 10 inches long.

lol yeah the screwdrivers are actually somewhat common. People use them to pop the balance wights off or to help get the tire off the rim. Then they put it up on the boom of the tire breaker and then at some point during installation of the new tire on the machine the screwdriver falls down and into the tire. Of course this is somehow never seen and the tire is installed with the screwdriver in it.
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:41 PM   #178
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It's scary thinking these cars are driving on the same highway following me at 70mph with non-existent or crippled brakes/ suspensions/ etc...
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:43 PM   #179
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It's scary thinking these cars are driving on the same highway following me at 70mph with non-existent or crippled brakes/ suspensions/ etc...
Yes it is except certain states like Pennsylvania require yearly safety inspections and you have to pass so your car can be on the road. I wish we had those =\
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:56 PM   #180
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We have yearly safety inspections here in VA, but you would be surprised at some of the ish that makes it through
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:13 PM   #181
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Yes it is except certain states like Pennsylvania require yearly safety inspections and you have to pass so your car can be on the road. I wish we had those =\
Where do you live that you don't have safety inspections?
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:18 PM   #182
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Where do you live that you don't have safety inspections?
The Centennial State!!!
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:20 PM   #183
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Where do you live that you don't have safety inspections?
Pick a state in the midwest and odds are they don't.

I know Ohio and Indiana are free of such things.
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:20 PM   #184
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Here in IL I wish we'd have safety inspections rather than emissions testing. It seems the government is putting the environments safety over my family's.
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:21 PM   #185
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Where do you live that you don't have safety inspections?
I know in Wyoming, you don't. This thread has a bunch of info on the topic.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=413947
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:25 PM   #186
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Haha I live in Texas and I went to yet my insp renewed for my 2006 Altima se-r and all they did was check lights and my tint. They said they were pretty busy and figured my car was good since it was "newer" lol. Took like 5 minutes lol. I thought that was crap that they didn't even bother to look at anything
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:38 PM   #187
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I'm in Texas as well. Some parts of texas don't do emissions but the whole state has safety. It's funny because where I live I have to do emissions, but drive about 45 mins in any direction but Dallas and you don't.

My last inspection a few months ago guy drove it in the bay, sold me some wipers, and sent me on my way. He did plug in the obd2 reader but my according to my ecu everything was good. (I'm catless)
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:38 PM   #188
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Here in IL I wish we'd have safety inspections rather than emissions testing. It seems the government is putting the environments safety over my family's.

Only certain counties in Ohio have emissions testing. (one that I live in does one county south doesn't )

Supposedly they check tires for tread and for general fluid leaks. But I see some pretty bald tires when I walk through parking lots and sitting next to me at traffic lights.

No brake checks or chassis integrity (in Ohio you would be suprised how bad a chassis can get after 15 years of salt), no steering checks etc...

Pretty scary just make sure your CEL is off, you have a CAT and your fuel cap seals.
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:46 PM   #189
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Not all shops are trying to rob you, but some definitely do, that is why people always question techs. My family friend called me up asking me for input on a really expensive repair from Subaru (they feel they MUST go to stealership, idk why).

So I go with them on the day of the appointment and the tech tells me an extremely high number for a problem with the rear diff. on their family Forrester. I asked him after he is done explaining, "What system does your dealership use to setup invoices and labor hours?" and he responses with a (fu** we've been caught) look, "Audatex". At that time I was working at a 3rd party auto insurance adjusting firm, so I had access to multiple parts and labor programs. I tell my family friend, "ok lets go" and right after we walked out the service manager runs out after us and goes "I'll do it for half that price". At that point my family friend steps forward pissed off and says, "No". Been telling them for years prior not to go to a stealership, some people just don't learn until they have been robbed.

Back to the topic, not that all places are out to screw you over but stories like these make customers question a lot of places.
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:52 PM   #190
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I think the "stealership" thing is a bit of a misnomer. There are a lot of them that will rob you. But their are a lot of small independent ones that will as well.

I think the real trick is to find a shop/mechanic that you trust in that regard.

That being said, I have seen some of the things that people do to cars. Many of them supposedly with engineering degrees and it makes me cry. Hell, there are things I have seen our lab tech do or some of the people that live near me that make me want to stay off the road they are on. Driving for a couple months on bald tires and brake systems without any pad material left.

Heck, my own girlfriend scares the crap out of me in regards to her personal car. Was taking it to a Midas for a bit when she had a good local mechanic she trusted because the Midas was closer to my place. Finally had to tell her to just take the time and visit her mechanic because the boys at Midas kept trying to rip her off.
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Old 08-02-2012, 06:43 PM   #191
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This guy comes in on a flat tire and asks if I can check it out so I go over and immediately see a fully 1 inch wide bone of some sort sticking out of the sidewall just out of the tread. I tell tell the guy he is gonna need a new tire. Nope he wants the tire plugged. I show him a tire plug to try to get across the idea that the holes to big to be plugged and make sure he wasn't thinking of a patch (though that damage was too much for a patch as well). His response was "well cant ya just put 6 or 7 in there?"
In my 4 wheeling days i've seen someone plug a tear in his sidewall with about 20 plugs. It leaked air, but slow enough to get him off the trail. Pretty ingenious i thought.
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:23 PM   #192
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In my 4 wheeling days i've seen someone plug a tear in his sidewall with about 20 plugs. It leaked air, but slow enough to get him off the trail. Pretty ingenious i thought.
Look at an earlier picture I posted of just that
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Old 08-02-2012, 07:23 PM   #193
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In my 4 wheeling days i've seen someone plug a tear in his sidewall with about 20 plugs. It leaked air, but slow enough to get him off the trail. Pretty ingenious i thought.
Yeah I've done some crazy **** offroading as well but I see that differently. Your not on the highway and your doing what ya have to do to get the thing out of there. Anything that works is a go but really when your talking about a car on the street and a guy is offering ya a tire for like 10 or even 20 bucks to get ya where your going its just a no brainer. That tire woulda been cheaper then the plugs. It's really an impossible price even for a used tire.

Most places wouldnt even put a tire you own already on a rim for that much. I was just willing to do that labor free because I knew that on the weekends I was the only guy in that part of town doing tire repair so I did everything I could to get people going and get them going cheap. It generally benefited me in the form of a massive tip income

Also there the liability thing if i did it and something did happen it would have been bosses business in trouble
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In my 4 wheeling days i've seen someone plug a tear in his sidewall with about 20 plugs. It leaked air, but slow enough to get him off the trail. Pretty ingenious i thought.
In my 4 wheeling days, I brought a spare tire...
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Old 08-02-2012, 08:08 PM   #195
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In my 4 wheeling days, I brought a spare tire...
Sometimes it just isnt enough lol. I remember 1 week in particular during which I had to register my truck at the dmv 3 times because I kept coming out of the woods missing the front plate and they made me reregister for new plates each time one was lost. After the third I used 6 bolts through the plate and bumper cover to keep it there.

A cop gave me some flak over the bolts at one point so I showed him all the dmv receipts and we both had a good laugh
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In my 4 wheeling days, I brought a spare tire...
Well...there's a lot of ****boxes out on the trail and not all have spares. But I agree with ya
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Now that is a gem
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I've seen plenty of old people with their left on the break and their right on the gas.
Accelerating with the brake depressed isn't just for old folks. Got behind a teenage girl this morning with a cell phone in her left hand and an eyeliner pen in the other, all while driving 40+ on a city street. She accelerated from a stop up to 40+ with the brake lights never going out.

I was actually quite impressed (and alarmed) when I thought about the fact she was steering, braking and accelerating with her legs.
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