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Old 06-05-2012, 02:26 PM   #26
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I'll need to go up to RSD and take a look at it some time this week
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:51 PM   #27
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Not sure yet on the motor just yet, as the car is so new not much is current available yet in regards to forced induction.

Suspension and Wheels are already in the works .
We just need to really get the car off these awful tires, as they really are killing allot of the fun factor of this car do to lack of feedback, grip...well they kill overall everything other then very quiet ride.

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You see, I find that funny as most reviewers say the feel is fantastic and going to a stickier tire will spoil the balance and feel of the car. As a stickier tires load up the suspension harder, thus increasing roll as you guys certainly know.

I just wonder what your goal with the car. I did not phrase my question properly last time. Is your goal to make it a time attack car? A better daily driver, a more potent autocrosser, a drag racer?

Since everything is a trade off, what is going to be sacrificed. More G's at the expense of feel, or more power at the expense of balance. I mean nothing is free, and everything that pushes here, pulls there.

I will be watching this thread closely as to see what direction you take the car.

I find it very interesting how you think the stock Michelins are terrible when they are deemed the perfect tire for fun driving, as they can be broken free at will.
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:09 PM   #28
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Would you compare the size of the BRZ to say a GC8 2.5RS size kinda car?
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:15 PM   #29
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You bring up several valid points here

Yes a stickier tire will take away from the "slide" factor of the car, as now it should be much more stable in handling. However the stock tires are just terrible, they provide very little feedback, have quite the soft sidewalls, and simply just give up when you try to make the car stick and not drift around. The thing that really disapointed me was the fact that these tires even though could be broken loose with out much work, took way from literally what I feel every other fun aspect of the car.

This project will be a little different then the STi in regards to being a bit more tame...but we will see how long that plan lasts . We are going to start with the handling and the balance of the car, wheels, tires, suspension and brakes. Not sure on the extent of each part of the car, but we want to overall make it a fun car, not just good in one thing but in several things.



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You see, I find that funny as most reviewers say the feel is fantastic and going to a stickier tire will spoil the balance and feel of the car. As a stickier tires load up the suspension harder, thus increasing roll as you guys certainly know.

I just wonder what your goal with the car. I did not phrase my question properly last time. Is your goal to make it a time attack car? A better daily driver, a more potent autocrosser, a drag racer?

Since everything is a trade off, what is going to be sacrificed. More G's at the expense of feel, or more power at the expense of balance. I mean nothing is free, and everything that pushes here, pulls there.

I will be watching this thread closely as to see what direction you take the car.

I find it very interesting how you think the stock Michelins are terrible when they are deemed the perfect tire for fun driving, as they can be broken free at will.
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Would you compare the size of the BRZ to say a GC8 2.5RS size kinda car?
Its actually shorter then a GC and it feels a bit tighter then a GC inside, but everything is placed a bit more efficiently so you dont notice it.
And the interior I find to be quite roomy, for someone like me who cant fit into a Miata or a S2K i was amazed that I had way more then enough room to be comfortable in the car.

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Old 06-05-2012, 04:37 PM   #31
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looks sick, cant wait to see it with some mods
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:10 PM   #32
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cool ..now rally it like Cusco
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Old 06-05-2012, 05:56 PM   #33
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I wish you luck RS. I guess the first thing you need to do to sell parts is to convince people the car his bad when they buy it.

That will not be an easy job, as every publication in the world (except EVO) have said it is the most balanced, poised and razor sharp chassis you can buy this side of a Cayman S.

But hey, if Miata guys can by parts, why not BRZ guys.

But I feel that almost any mod done takes it away from perfect balance and more into the realm of race car, which little by little becomes less fun as a daily driver.

Good Luck Rally Sport, you guys do quality work, you always have! I just wonder what the goal of the car is.
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:29 PM   #36
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The car is good, but coming from the a modded daily driver STi to this car was a bit of a "oh this thing is a bit soft". Im sure if you drove a standard Camry every day, or some other simple car it would be allot more of a "WHAAA" factor.
Not saying that this is a bad car, as by no means is it bad. Its just that coming from STi's, EVO's, and other performance cars this thing is a bit soft around the edges.

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Old 06-05-2012, 11:43 PM   #37
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is it just me or are those 17 inch gravel tires on that cusco brz... if so i want some haha
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Definitely not 17"

Stock is 17", those look like 15"

I do kind of find it funny that it's the Toyota and not the Subaru that Cusco chose for the rally car.

RSD, can't wait to see what you end up doing to your car
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Albino Rhinos first Oil Change



Tools needed: 14mm socket or wrench, ramps or jack and stands, oil drain bucket, small funnel, fresh oil, and oil filter. Gloves and shop rags are very nice but not required.
Time Required: I would give yourself about 30 minutes to complete the oil change.
Difficulty: One of the easiest oil changes I have done.



First I like to make sure the car is somewhat warm but not hot. You will want to drive your car up onto the ramps, or jack the front of your car up with a jack and make sure to secure it with jack stands. Pop the hood and locate the oil filter and oil filler cap on the front driver side(left side) of the engine bay. Take off the oil filler cap and put it aside in a safe location.




Next go under the car, and you should see the large metal under plate, and you will notice a large access hole, this is where you will be able to access the oil drain plug. Take your 14mm wrench and loosen the oil drain plug, and make sure your oil drain bucket is close at hand so you can get it directly under the oil flow path as you are removing the oil drain plug.





As oil is draining, you can start to remove the oil filter on the top of the engine. With the filter being on the top of the engine, you should not have to worry about the filter spilling oil as you remove it, should be a very clean removal. Once the filter is off, I like to clean the mating surface of the engine to ensure a leak free seal on the new filter.





Install the new filter and tighten down to manufacturer or oil filter specs. Once you have let the oil drain for a sufficient time, you can screw the oil drain plug back in the oil pan and torque to factory specs.







Last step is to fill the engine with oil, we used a small filter which will help keep any oil off the engine. Subaru states the oil capacity is 5.8 quarts, but ours did not take quite that much, so I would fill it to around 5 quarts and check the oil level, and top off if needed.





Put the oil cap back on, start the engine and make sure the oil light turns off. Get out of the car and check for any leaks. Once you have confirmed there are no leaks, double check everything, and enjoy your fresh oil! Now go for a drive!!!





We decided to use the Dimple Magnetic Drain Plug on this oil change, the part number is M16X1.5X12 which is also the dimensions of the oil drain plug. The new Dimple plug will use a 15mm head, so if you do go this route, make sure to have a 15mm wrench handy as well. We also used the Prova Sports Oil filter, part number 10000SP0010




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Our new BRZ, the Albino Rhino is officially broken in!!!! Now this is where the fun begins. I did a fresh oil change before I was able to take it out for a true test drive, and once that was done, I was able to finally get a true feeling for what this car can do. I decided to get away from work and from the city and found a winding road that whips it way up one of our many local mountains. Taking it easy at first I was able to feel the suspension on the rough roads, even though it does feel stiff, you get the impression that the tires never want to leave contact with the road, it just feels so incredible planted and stable. I found a few fast corners that looked like they would just be a ton of fun, so I went past those corners, checked for any traffic, and once I knew I was in the clear I headed heavy footed for the corner, a bit nervous but excited to see how this car did in the fast sweepers. All of my nervousness was instantly replaced with a giant smile, which quickly turned into some type of giddy laughter as I realized I could have easily done another 20-25 MPH through the corner.

The grip you get out of this car is unbelievable, and to think it is riding on Prius tires makes you scratch you head in confusion, as the grip feels like something you would get out of a much more aggressive tire. Also the corner was not particularly smooth, and I was amazed with how well the suspension soaked up the rough bumps and kept the tire gripping to the road like they were made out of glue. Next I wanted to have a bit more fun with the car, which means getting that rear end to step out. I continued down the canyon, perhaps a bit quicker than I should have, but it is so hard to resist the speed when the car just encourages you to go faster, I almost feel like if you did not drive it hard, it would make fun of you on facebook or something, calling you slow and dimwitted. As I value my facebook image I made sure I would show this car I was not your average sissy driver and found a few series of tight corners that I could really test the car on. Approaching these corners, again very nervous as you just never know how a new car is going to react, I was a bit cautious, but as soon as I turned in and mashed the gas in 2nd gear, the rear end comes out in a very controlled and very predictable manner, and as soon as I let off the gas, the rear end snapped back into place. To get the rear end to really come out on you, and stay out, you are going to have to put in some effort, the natural tendency is for the rear to snap back into place, which I think is just fantastic having driven too many RWD cars that always want to snap oversteer on you, leading you going backwards into the nearest ditch or tree. I do need some more practice with this, but after a few quick tail slides, this car just inspires confidence and makes you feel like a drift king. Now I am not talking about getting the car sideways at 90 degrees, as I just don’t have the huevos for that(don’t tell the BRZ that, I can hear it firing up the computer already), but just those fun little power slides that you can easily do powering out of a sharp corner, and this car is the king of that for sure. With everything being so tight and together on the car, you can feel what the front end is doing and exactly what the rear end is doing as well, so it is hard to not have confidence and know the car will easily pull you out of the slide without having to call the insurance company. One thing I did not really touch on in this review was the power. With the engine finally broken in I was able to take it to redline, and luckily I did not have any unrealistic expectations that the engine would turn into this high revving beast, as it just is not. Now I am not saying the power is bad in anyway, as you can easily get this car up and moving quicker than you would ever need, so we’re just going to call the power levels adequate and leave it at that.

All around this car appeals to me more and more every time I drive it. I often can find questionable situations to put this car in which would embarrass other cars, and this one just seems to excel all while leaving you with white knuckles and a huge ear to ear grin. You can create whole new levels of fun by just dodging around man hole covers, paint stripes etc.. It reminds me of the first sport bike I ever road, it just feels so nimble that you can’t help but to test it out by purposefully avoiding every little thing on the road…”I am sorry officer, it is brand new, so I just needed to make sure those..umm.. pebbles on the road would not hurt my tires”. Just remember to be safe and have fun!

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Old 06-19-2012, 07:10 PM   #42
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Event: Dyno Tune/Product Testing
Location: ZipTie Dynoworks, Salt Lake City, Utah
Ambient Temp: 87F
Elevation: 4600 Feet
Weather: Sunny
Car: 2013 Subaru BRZ
Tuner: None, this was for a Baseline
Dyno Info: Mustang Dynamometer
Transmission: Factory 6-speed
Gear: 4th
Peak HP: 150
Peak TQ: 116
Fuel: 91 Octane

Modifications:
-Apexi Panel Filter
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We wanted to get a good baseline on our local dyno, so we packed up and headed over to ZipTie Dynoworks. When we arrived they had everything set up and ready to go it was as simple as handing them the keys while I relaxed and watch them strap it down. Once they had the car secured to the dyno, we did a few runs to let the oil get up to temp to get an accurate power reading. After the first few pulls we had a maximum of 147HP and 114TQ. This was a bit better than I had expected having seen some other stock BRZ dyno numbers, but still seems to be right on par based of the Dyno we and others have used.

Next we wanted to see what would happen if we just removed the factory filter, so we popped the hood and quickly removed the stock filter. One thing I will point out is that the factory air filter actually looks really really good, it has quite a bit of surface area and seem to be of super high quality, so we were impressed by that. But this is not a stock filter review, we are here to get some numbers! So we made a few more pulls with the factory air filter out of the box, and we got a maximum HP of 148 and max TQ of 114. We were hoping to see more gains out of this, but it seems like the power delivery was not as smooth, and while we did gain 1 horsepower overall, the majority of the time, we were actually under power compared to the stock filter. I am guessing this has to do with the way the air floes over the MAF sensor itself, and I do think having a filter in the box creates the proper air flow over the MAF. Now that was all done, we wanted to try out the new Apexi drop in air filter. Removing it from the box, you can instantly tell this will be a much better flowing filter than stock, and if not that, at least it is looks much better.


We did have some issues installing the new air filter in the air box, this might have just been us trying to hurry to get the car off the dyno, but we had to physically remove the air box, put the filter in, clamp the air box together and bolt it back in the car.



Something about a bunch of monkeys and a football comes to mind looking back on this… Once the monkeys got the air filter installed, we fired up the engine for a few more pulls. With the engine breathing much better, we achieved a maximum HP of 150 and a Maximum TQ of 116. Now this is what we are talking about! Not only did we see a gain of 3 HP and 2 TQ over the stock filter, but throughout the entire RPM range it made more power than the stock filter. Not too bad for a drop in air filter and what should have been a 2 minute install haha.

Driving the car, it does seem the throttle response has improved ever so slightly, and the car does seem to pull a bit easier as well through the RPM range. Not a huge performance gain, but I figure it is a very worthwhile modification if you ever have to replace the factory panel filter and do not want to go with a true aftermarket air intake system.

Just wanted to give a big shout out to all of the guys over at ZipTie Dynoworks, this was the first time I have been to their new shop and it is nice to see a clean, well-organized shop, and all the smiling faces over there always helps too.

Also make sure to check out our video of our little dyno adventure


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every little improvement helps! hah
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Are those new APEXi filters one time use?
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Yes they are a 1 time use filter
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Woah! 3 hp!

Nice car! Keen to see what improvements you can make.
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Woah! 3 hp!

Nice car! Keen to see what improvements you can make.
Yeah not too bad for just a drop in, now hopefully the ECU does not adjust itself back to stock power levels

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Old 06-20-2012, 12:01 AM   #48
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Car looks awesome in white. Love the Albino Rhino, but you need more videos. Albino Rhino brings up some strange youtube similar videos.

What wheels will you be going with? 18x9.5 TE37 SuperLaps in 5x100? :naughty:
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Car looks awesome in white. Love the Albino Rhino, but you need more videos. Albino Rhino brings up some strange youtube similar videos.

What wheels will you be going with? 18x9.5 TE37 SuperLaps in 5x100? :naughty:
Yeah we should be getting some more videos up soon And the wheels are a bit of a secret at the moment, but you should see them soon! Those TE's would look AMAZING on this car though!

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Nice write up, really liking it in the white
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