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Old 06-04-2012, 06:52 PM   #1
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I wash all my micro fibers after everytime is was my car. The last two times I washed my car the water dig not bead as normal and I waxed it the last wash. The only thing that I can think of that has changed was the detergent that I used in the washing machine. Could this affect the water beading or the wax? Also I just thought that I wash all the car stuff together wheel rags wash mit drying towel buffing cloth window cloth and anything else.
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Old 06-04-2012, 07:01 PM   #2
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The rags themselves should have no particular difference on weather it takes off wax or not, unless they are filthy or not cotton/microfiber.

What Soap do you use on the car?....

....dish and other hand type soaps cut grease/wax and are best used on cars only if you want to strip them of the wax before a big round of polishing.
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Old 06-04-2012, 07:44 PM   #3
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Everything is meguiars products. I don't know anything (other than detergent) that has changed. I just washed and clayed and I'm going to go get the original detergent and will see if anything changes. It seems like the water has less tension like it has soap in it maybe something changed with city water.
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:24 PM   #4
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You should always wash with the 2 bucket system.
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:39 PM   #5
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Did you read the original post?
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:55 PM   #6
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Yes I did, I just asking if you use the 2 bucket system when washing your car.
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Yes I did, I just asking if you used the 2 bucket system when washing your car.
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Yes I did, I'm just asking if you used the 2 bucket system when washing your car.
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:21 PM   #10
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Just to put it out there I have found specific detergant for micro fiber. The detergent that I used was tide with sent. A lot of people are saying not to use that.
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Wash them HOT/HOT and let them soak for a good 15min before the wash cycle starts. I like to used dish soap because it cuts the polish and wax that's in the towels after detailing.

I used a 1/2 a powdered drink mix scoop of dish soap on the small load setting.

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I will give that a shot. How does the washing machine like dish soap does it get real foamy
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I thought about buying detergent specifically for washing towels and microfiber but I realized that that could get real expensive.

My alternative was to buy detergent that is unscented and doesn't have a extra chemicals such as softeners or dyes.
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:26 AM   #14
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I will give that a shot. How does the washing machine like dish soap does it get real foamy
Not if you use a tiny amount like I mentioned. Keep the lid open and put a screw driver in the safety hole if need to get it to run. Just monitor it the first time, once you figure out how much to use your all good,

Unscented laundry soap will work but not as good as dish soap....Ivory or Dawn
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buy a detergent that is 99% biodegradable and unscented (costo sells a kirkland brand that is very reasonably priced), wash only microfibers by themselves, and you'll have no issues
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Wash them HOT/HOT and let them soak for a good 15min before the wash cycle starts. I like to used dish soap because it cuts the polish and wax that's in the towels after detailing.

I used a 1/2 a powdered drink mix scoop of dish soap on the small load setting.



Absolutely do not do this! Microfiber technology does not like heat. You should wash warm/cold and tumble dry on low setting, if you are not air drying. Do not use any detergents with bleach. Do not use fabric softener.


http://www.autogeek.net/leabmi.html
http://ecotouch.net/pages/Cleaning-m...er-cloths.html
http://www.cardetailinghandbook.com/...fiber-for-cars
http://www.carwash.com/articles/prod...s-for-towels-2
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When they get as dirty as I get most of them its the only way to get them clean. Take what works and do what you will....they are only micro fiber clothes not the queens linens. By the time you by the magical micro fiber washes you could have bought another 2 dozen towels
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Absolutely do not do this! Microfiber technology does not like heat. You should wash warm/cold and tumble dry on low setting, if you are not air drying. Do not use any detergents with bleach. Do not use fabric softener.
....actually, this is an old debate and one that I also had reservations about until listening to a fellow Autopia member in the textile industry.

The fact is that polyamide/polyester have melting points upwards of 500 degrees Fahrenheit . ....far above what a properly functioning dryer can achieve or that of boiling water (which is just above 200 degrees Fahrenheit IIRC).

This textile expert I refer to also spent a year researching dryers before he finally concluded that drying on high heat was safe for MF material (covering all possibilities that there may be some that were not). ....his research had led him to a professor at the Philadelphia College of Textiles who had actually helped design a few machines for Maytag.

Having said that, I have run into some rare issues (usually with my cheaper towels) where the edge stitching had seemingly shrunk causing bacon-like scrunching. However, the MF material was unaffected. ....perhaps with some the edge thread is cotton or some other material susceptible to shrinkage.

In either case, I have washed and dried on high heat without issue. I tend to prefer to use low heat on the dryer though, but not for fear of damaging the MF material. I find it helps cut down static a bit. ....and since my MF's tend to dry fast regardless, high heat isn't necessary for me (but I do use hot water).
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Yea very informative and good point Kean.

I have felt a difference in my very early batch of mf towels with the texture and softness of the fabric, but I believe that was because of the washing detergents used to clean them. At first I thought it was heat, so thats one of the reasons why I toned it down. I just soaked them in hot water with some APC instead to break down the oils and residue.

Newer drying machines also have moisture detection technology that will regular the heat temperature to prolong or adjust the drying cycle, that what I noticed with mines. All in all I do agree and feel safe using the machines to wash the towels on heat settings.

I also dry low because I hate to open the dryer and find my towels all statically stuck to the walls instead of all on the bottom.
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