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Old 12-19-2012, 01:30 PM   #526
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It will be fine. You have to remember that I will RARELY ever run e85 due to the lack of pumps in my area. I'll be on the 93oct map probably 98% of the time. This clutch is durable and very streetable...so it fits my needs perfectly. My stock clutch still looked great when we took it out of the car.
My stock clutch looked great when I pulled it out too. But a brand new ACT HD with full face disk wouldn't hold a 3rd gear pull. On pump gas I think you'll be OK though. I agree that this clutch is a much better choice as long as it can hold the peak torque. Going to a puck clutch makes it a lot less fun to drive day to day.
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:56 PM   #527
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I wouldn't be worried so much about the clutch as I would the transmission :P I know you're pretty easy on the trans, but are you worried at all about its durability and holding up? Any back up plans in the case that it did fail?

Was wondering too man, how do you like the 1.5XTR in terms of drive ability and spool up? Thinking about the same turbo myself for the future

Can't wait to see what numbers you get on the dyno man!
Transmission is fine on pump gas for sure. I am insanely careful with the tranny anyway making sure to rev match and heal/toe even while daily driving. Pulls in third would be the worry but not on pump gas.

1.5XT-R is the best stock location turbo you can buy in my opinion. Quick spool with great power and a better top end than the 20G. If you want more power...go rotated...other than that...it is stock and e85 or the 1.5.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:30 PM   #528
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^I agree with this turbo suggestion.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:11 PM   #529
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I'm driving.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:19 PM   #530
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Is it amazing?
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:25 PM   #531
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Is it amazing?
Not yet. Just waste gate pressure. I did miss my car a lot though. It's nice to be back in it. Saturday will be fun.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:40 PM   #532
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What's wastegate pressure? 1 bar? My car does 20psi on wastegate pressure, and about 400WHP

Can't wait to see what your final numbers end up being! ...And the 50-100mph time!
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:38 AM   #533
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What's wastegate pressure? 1 bar? My car does 20psi on wastegate pressure, and about 400WHP

Can't wait to see what your final numbers end up being! ...And the 50-100mph time!
Yeah I'm pretty anxious as well, will give me a fair idea of what direction I will take with mine in the future. As of right now though, definitely going with the Dom1.5xtr.

Rob, any reason you chose to go with the Perrin front mount over say the AMR? Doesn't the Perrin flow in an odd clockwise way or something that is less efficient??

Pretty excited as well to see how your 50-100 stacks up to Bens, any plans on switching to an ELH setup to help improve the low-midrange?
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:00 AM   #534
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What's wastegate pressure? 1 bar? My car does 20psi on wastegate pressure, and about 400WHP

Can't wait to see what your final numbers end up being! ...And the 50-100mph time!
15 lbs on gate...so yeah...about 1 bar.

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Rob, any reason you chose to go with the Perrin front mount over say the AMR? Doesn't the Perrin flow in an odd clockwise way or something that is less efficient??
I liked the build quality of the Perrin unit. While the clockwise flow does create a small inefficiency when running over a really hot turbo long in a run, there are ways around it. This time around I am actually going to gold foil tape that section to reflect any heat from the turbo.

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Pretty excited as well to see how your 50-100 stacks up to Bens, any plans on switching to an ELH setup to help improve the low-midrange?
Ben's will beat me without a doubt in my mind on 93oct vs. e85. e85 vs. e85...he probably will too. I am not ready to beat on my transmission like that at that level of power for a video (his PAR gears are stout). It will be interesting to see how it pans out though. No chance on the ELH. I like my boxer rumble.
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:42 AM   #535
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Random question, but do you have any idea if the pss run wide? Are they as wide in a 255 as staspecs? I wanna run a 255 on a 9.5 but dont want stretch, I know starspecs will fill it out and besides you I dont know anyone who has actual experience with the pss.
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:56 AM   #536
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Random question, but do you have any idea if the pss run wide? Are they as wide in a 255 as staspecs? I wanna run a 255 on a 9.5 but dont want stretch, I know starspecs will fill it out and besides you I dont know anyone who has actual experience with the pss.
They run really wide. I am running 255's on 9.5's right now and they are flush with rim. The 265's went past the rim.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:27 AM   #537
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I think someone out there was making a pair of pipes that would switch the flow of the Perrin to be the more logical direction. I can't remember who though. One of the shops out east maybe? Do you have a blanket on your turbo? I have the PTP Lava blanket (and the GS heat shield) and it stops soooo much heat from making it upwards to the IC piping.

What do you plan on revving the new motor out to? Shifting fast makes a noticeable difference in 50-100mph time, but even if you shift slower you'll still be able to see that the car is quick in a speedo video.

I've heard the PSS run about as wide as Star Specs, but they seem to have a bit more rounded appearance. They look like they have a sidewall bulge to me (but they don't really, just the look).
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:29 AM   #538
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Love this car. Such attention to detail. Great mods, and nice power.

Love it!
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:31 AM   #539
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i just wish starspecs weren't 180 tread wear rated.


robb you should just mess with ben, make a bunch of videos' half throttle be like it's all she's got.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:37 AM   #540
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I looked up the width's on the Star Specs vs PSS. Looks pretty similar. Dunlop doesn't list the tread width though

255/35R18 Star Specs:
Measured Rim Width: 9"
Sect. Width: 10.4"
Tread Width: N/A

255/35R18 PSS:
Measured Rim Width: 9"
Sect. Width: 10.2"
Tread Width: 9.5"

265/35R18 Star Specs:
Measured Rim Width: 9.5"
Sect. Width: 10.7"
Tread Width: N/A

265/35R18 PSS:
Measured Rim Width: 9.5"
Sect. Width: 10.7"
Tread Width: 10.1"

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....SSXL&tab=Specs

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Z1SS&tab=Specs
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:49 AM   #541
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Been following this for a hwhile. Pretty excited to see what this puts down on e85. What's the cost for a built motor all said and done? (I haven't the faintest.)
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:54 AM   #542
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thank you ben!
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:20 AM   #543
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I also found this post from Luke @ Tire Rack:

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on the Direzza where the tread slab meets the sidewall is very square and while the RE11, as well as most other tires have a rounded shoulder area.

Z1 vs. RE11
[__] vs. (__)
It's kind of lame that Dunlop doesn't list the tread width, but if you think about what Luke said, it would imply that the Star Specs would have a wider contact patch. If the side wall is more square than the PSS (as I've seen visually) and they both have the same sect. width, that says the Star Specs have a wider tread width (or else they would look more rounded). I don't know for sure though.
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IMO...it doesn't really matter as I view the PSS as a better overall tire anyway. It doesn't have the same turn in bite as the Star Spec due to a slightly softer sidewall, but it does have better turn in grip, treadwear and overall track handling characteristics. It also keeps grip longer over a run. When the Star Specs get hot...they get really greasy.
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I think someone out there was making a pair of pipes that would switch the flow of the Perrin to be the more logical direction. I can't remember who though. One of the shops out east maybe? Do you have a blanket on your turbo? I have the PTP Lava blanket (and the GS heat shield) and it stops soooo much heat from making it upwards to the IC piping.

What do you plan on revving the new motor out to? Shifting fast makes a noticeable difference in 50-100mph time, but even if you shift slower you'll still be able to see that the car is quick in a speedo video.

I've heard the PSS run about as wide as Star Specs, but they seem to have a bit more rounded appearance. They look like they have a sidewall bulge to me (but they don't really, just the look).
I need to pick up one of those blankets. I have heard good things. I would also be interested in that piping. I think I have seen that somewhere before.

Revving it now or when I make the video?
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:15 PM   #546
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Video/final tune. Over 7k?
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:39 PM   #547
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It will be over 7k. Shift point I'll answer after seeing the final graph.
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:06 PM   #548
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I habe never driven on ssp. Only had friends run them. But the starspecs were great, like I said I dont have enough seat time to really push my car to the abaolute limits. The reason im looking at pss is because the starspecs simply did not last a season and im not about to buy tires every season especially since I dont run summers for majority ofnthe year.

The contact patch is the least of my worries because anything bigger than the stock tires will Improve handling on this car, I just want to fill out the rim without over doing it for such an underpowered car.

Im also tempted to buy the sumitomos again, I really liked them and they were worlds better in the wet than the starspecs ever could be.

Im thinking youll be around 73-7500 shifting to drop back into the right powerband. That 1.5 really is ideal for street driven fun subies if youre trying to do only the basics in boltons. **** im getting excited over here!!!! Stop posting go rack miles up
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I habe never driven on ssp. Only had friends run them. But the starspecs were great, like I said I dont have enough seat time to really push my car to the abaolute limits. The reason im looking at pss is because the starspecs simply did not last a season and im not about to buy tires every season especially since I dont run summers for majority ofnthe year.

The contact patch is the least of my worries because anything bigger than the stock tires will Improve handling on this car, I just want to fill out the rim without over doing it for such an underpowered car.

Im also tempted to buy the sumitomos again, I really liked them and they were worlds better in the wet than the starspecs ever could be.
The PSS's come with a 30k tread wear warranty and are SCAREY consistent in wet. I did full tilt Dragon runs in the rain on them. Damn that was fun...
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150 miles of country roads and counting...
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First 150 miles went really well. More driving to do tomorrow before she gets worked on Saturday...

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