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Old 01-18-2013, 02:30 PM   #601
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I thought I would give you guys an update on how things are going. Insurance approved the add ons so work on the car will finally start next week. I am taking this opportunity to do some work to the car so there will be quite a few changes coming out. I might as well do it while it is already in there taken apart! I am paying the extra BTW so this is completely legit and not trying to screw the insurance company. I don't personally believe in doing that.

I'll leave most of the details for when it gets out, but one of the things that is getting don e is a complete revamp of the 3 way active front stage. Here is a diagram of the new setup.



The new tweeter and midrange will be replacing this current setup in my pillars.


Very interesting.Perhaps even more interesting is that you'll most likely be selling your old components...
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:05 PM   #602
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Those scanspeak mids are massive aren't they? Will they fit into your pods? Whats up with dropping to an 8" sub"? (didn't you have a 10") I regret not doing a 12 in mine haha!

I have two of the massive audio amps (NX5 running sub and bridged to mids and NX2 running some widebands in pillars). They're nice and compact, but I've had a turn on pop and weird turn on delay plus a tiny bit of a noise floor. I've been meaning to swap out my RCAs to some nicer ones to rule that out, but with your setup being so nice, you wouldn't want that amp to be a weak link (unless you already have it). Why not another Hertz?
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:44 PM   #603
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Man..if you selling that pillar set up, put me on the list..scratch that anything you selling put me on the list =D..lol
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:45 PM   #604
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Those scanspeak mids are massive aren't they? Will they fit into your pods? Whats up with dropping to an 8" sub"? (didn't you have a 10") I regret not doing a 12 in mine haha!

I have two of the massive audio amps (NX5 running sub and bridged to mids and NX2 running some widebands in pillars). They're nice and compact, but I've had a turn on pop and weird turn on delay plus a tiny bit of a noise floor. I've been meaning to swap out my RCAs to some nicer ones to rule that out, but with your setup being so nice, you wouldn't want that amp to be a weak link (unless you already have it). Why not another Hertz?
Yeah they'll fit! I did the measurements already. Overall diameter is 3.625" on the Tangs. The mounting hole diameter according to the specs on the Scanspeaks is 3.52" center to center. I still have a 10". That 8" is a typo. The 2 ohm bridged is also a typo. That is at 4ohm bridged. Fixing it now.

The only reason for not getting another Hertz is the size. If I get another HDP4, everything has to move to the trunk. The Massive fits under the seat with the HDP4 due to its size.

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Old 01-18-2013, 04:48 PM   #605
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Man..if you selling that pillar set up, put me on the list..scratch that anything you selling put me on the list =D..lol
I'm only selling the speakers. The pillar setup is staying to fit the new drivers.
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:01 PM   #606
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Hey Rob, I know I already asked you about your tire/wheel
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:07 PM   #607
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Hey Rob, I know I already asked you about your previous tire/wheel setup (XXRS) but I just have a couple questions, hoping you can help me out.

I know you mentioned that I'm probably going to have to roll the rear fenders with the 18x8.75 +35 wheels, but I'm curious as to 'How Much' you had them rolled? I ask as I would rather have a mild roll done then have a shop roll them flat and then increase the risk of having my paint crack... And did you have any issues with paint cracking? And if I am on the stock suspension, only having sways and endlinks, do you think the roll would be necessary at all?

Regarding the Micheling PSS, I was planning on running 255/35's, but do you think they would be too wide on the 8.75" wide wheel as I know you said before they tend to run wide?

Appreciate the advice bro, hope to see your car back on the road soon! Excited to see what you have in store for us

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Old 01-19-2013, 04:37 PM   #608
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I know you mentioned that I'm probably going to have to roll the rear fenders with the 18x8.75 +35 wheels, but I'm curious as to 'How Much' you had them rolled?
Depends on suspension setup. If you are at stock height, a mild roll is fine. Lowered...you need to be more aggressive.

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I ask as I would rather have a mild roll done then have a shop roll them flat and then increase the risk of having my paint crack... And did you have any issues with paint cracking?
None...because we went really slow with it. As long as you take your time and don't shock the metal, it rolls up flat pretty easily. Some people get too anxious and try to roll quickly and that is generally what causes the cracking. You can also heat it with a heat gun or hair drier to make the paint softer.
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And if I am on the stock suspension, only having sways and endlinks, do you think the roll would be necessary at all?
Yes. Slight rear roll as that offset will hit under hard hits

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Regarding the Micheling PSS, I was planning on running 255/35's, but do you think they would be too wide on the 8.75" wide wheel as I know you said before they tend to run wide?
More than likely. On 8.75 I would probably look at the 245's. I had 255/35 Hankook V12's on the XXR's for the short period I had them and those tires fit perfectly. When I transferred them to the Works that are 9.5 wide, they were really stretched. I am currently running 255 PSS's on my Works and they fit perfectly when the 265's were HUGE.

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Appreciate the advice bro, hope to see your car back on the road soon! Excited to see what you have in store for us

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Anytime. Thanks.
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:13 PM   #609
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Depends on suspension setup. If you are at stock height, a mild roll is fine. Lowered...you need to be more aggressive.

None...because we went really slow with it. As long as you take your time and don't shock the metal, it rolls up flat pretty easily. Some people get too anxious and try to roll quickly and that is generally what causes the cracking. You can also heat it with a heat gun or hair drier to make the paint softer.

Yes. Slight rear roll as that offset will hit under hard hits

More than likely. On 8.75 I would probably look at the 245's. I had 255/35 Hankook V12's on the XXR's for the short period I had them and those tires fit perfectly. When I transferred them to the Works that are 9.5 wide, they were really stretched. I am currently running 255 PSS's on my Works and they fit perfectly when the 265's were HUGE.

Anytime. Thanks.
Thanks for detailed response Rob. Definitely keeping stock height, so that's good to hear. Did you roll the fenders yourself or have a shop do it? If a shop did it, do you mind me asking how much it cost and how long it took?

Also, now that I'm reconsidering the tire choice, I'm wondering what your opinion is of the Hankooks and how they performed? My car will only ever be street driven, with maybe a handful of autocrosses per year. Much more so into the typical 'canyon carving' so I'm thinking maybe the Hankooks would be a better fit anyways? Wondering what your thoughts would be?

Again, appreciate the advice man. Nice to get some first hand knowledge from someone that actually knows what they're talking about, unlike a lot of 'experts' on this forum in other threads :P
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Thanks for detailed response Rob. Definitely keeping stock height, so that's good to hear. Did you roll the fenders yourself or have a shop do it? If a shop did it, do you mind me asking how much it cost and how long it took?
I actually had a shop do the initial slight roll (AllPro Subaru in Alpharetta, GA) and I did the second flat roll.
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Also, now that I'm reconsidering the tire choice, I'm wondering what your opinion is of the Hankooks and how they performed? My car will only ever be street driven, with maybe a handful of autocrosses per year. Much more so into the typical 'canyon carving' so I'm thinking maybe the Hankooks would be a better fit anyways? Wondering what your thoughts would be?
If you are thinking anything other than daily driving...get the PSS's. The Hankooks MELTED on the track. So if you are going to AutoX, they will be done in a session. They were literally chunking off in my wheel wells. The PSS's have survived multiple track sessions and held grip for longer. Per mile, the PSS's are cheaper.

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Again, appreciate the advice man. Nice to get some first hand knowledge from someone that actually knows what they're talking about, unlike a lot of 'experts' on this forum in other threads :P
Thanks! I don't call myself an expert by any means...just trying to help out where I can with the experience I have.
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:23 PM   #611
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We got my son a new car today so I thought it would be funny to do a rig shot of it. It isn't perfect but it was a fun project for the day.


Wheeling the Dodge Viper by rsutton198 | oneninety8.com, on Flickr

Here is the rig on the little car.


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Old 01-19-2013, 07:37 PM   #612
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I actually had a shop do the initial slight roll (AllPro Subaru in Alpharetta, GA) and I did the second flat roll.

If you are thinking anything other than daily driving...get the PSS's. The Hankooks MELTED on the track. So if you are going to AutoX, they will be done in a session. They were literally chunking off in my wheel wells. The PSS's have survived multiple track sessions and held grip for longer. Per mile, the PSS's are cheaper.

Thanks! I don't call myself an expert by any means...just trying to help out where I can with the experience I have.
Just so I'm not mistaken, you had a Subaru dealer perform the initial roll? Or is that the just the name of the shop? Apologies for all the questions, but we don't have a single performance shop here in Newfoundland

The only reason I would now consider the Hankooks is due to the figment. I mean, if the PSS in 255's are flush on a 9.5, I think they would be wayyy too big on the XXRs right? And discounttiredirect doesn't sell a 245/35 of the PSS, so not many choices! Just curious, I will do my own research as well, but have you any personal experience with the Dunlop Direzza DZ101s?

No no man, I didn't mean anything about you regarding the experts comment haha I meant that there are some guys that just think they know everything about everything, and that what they think is the only option... You have a ton of experience in comparison to myself man, and especially when you have been able to track your car and really test it's limits it nice to hear feedback on those things
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Just so I'm not mistaken, you had a Subaru dealer perform the initial roll? Or is that the just the name of the shop? Apologies for all the questions, but we don't have a single performance shop here in Newfoundland
That is just the name of the shop. It is not a dealer.

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The only reason I would now consider the Hankooks is due to the figment. I mean, if the PSS in 255's are flush on a 9.5, I think they would be wayyy too big on the XXRs right? And discounttiredirect doesn't sell a 245/35 of the PSS, so not many choices! Just curious, I will do my own research as well, but have you any personal experience with the Dunlop Direzza DZ101s?
You are going to want the 245/40. The 40 number is a ratio based off the width.
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No no man, I didn't mean anything about you regarding the experts comment haha I meant that there are some guys that just think they know everything about everything, and that what they think is the only option... You have a ton of experience in comparison to myself man, and especially when you have been able to track your car and really test it's limits it nice to hear feedback on those things
I got what you were saying. It's all good!
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That rig shot on the toy car is awesome hahaha
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That is just the name of the shop. It is not a dealer.

You are going to want the 245/40. The 40 number is a ratio based off the width.

I got what you were saying. It's all good!
Ahh ok I gotcha

I am hesitant to get the 40 aspect ratio though as then the overall diameter will go up from stock, which just hurts our 5 spd gearing.

In terms of just daily/spirited driving, how do feel the Hankooks perform? If they honestly can't take the autox, I'll just avoid it all together, it's not that important to me and as I'm on a strict budget, I need the tires to last a few seasons for sure.
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:31 PM   #616
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We got my son a new car today so I thought it would be funny to do a rig shot of it. It isn't perfect but it was a fun project for the day.

Here is the rig on the little car.
Father of the year contender right here. That is awesome!

Also I miss the silver hatch, how much longer in the shop? I'm seriously considering the brembos in silver with the black sticker. I think color matched looks awesome with black wheels.

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Old 01-19-2013, 09:38 PM   #617
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HAha, I bought my son the same car for Xmas. Not gonna lie.. I have "modded" it up a bit.
Painted the wheels, decals, and other tidbits.
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Father of the year contender right here. That is awesome!

Also I miss the silver hatch, how much longer in the shop? I'm seriously considering the brembos in silver with the black sticker. I think color matched looks awesome with black wheels.
Probably another 2 weeks or so. They are just starting on Monday due to the insurance company taking a little bit to approve the additional repairs. I miss it to. Between having the motor done and the accident...I have barely driven the car since November.

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Painted the wheels, decals, and other tidbits.
haha! That is awesome. The funny thing is that a friend of mine suggested that I have the body painted the same color I am having my car painted. That would have been pretty cool.

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Ahh ok I gotcha

I am hesitant to get the 40 aspect ratio though as then the overall diameter will go up from stock, which just hurts our 5 spd gearing.

In terms of just daily/spirited driving, how do feel the Hankooks perform? If they honestly can't take the autox, I'll just avoid it all together, it's not that important to me and as I'm on a strict budget, I need the tires to last a few seasons for sure.
Daily/spirited driving they were fine. I really do like the PSS's much better for everything but the Hankook's worked. The sidewalls where a little flexy but that wasn't a big deal for that type of driving.
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The funny thing is that a friend of mine suggested that I have the body painted the same color I am having my car painted.
Is she getting a color change?
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What color are you painting your car!?!
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Yep...there are changes coming...
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I was curious ( sorry if its been answered) have you done anything to fix the rattles in the car? Did you dynamat anywhere and if so does it help? My car isn't horrible but I hate any type of rattle!
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We got my son a new car today so I thought it would be funny to do a rig shot of it. It isn't perfect but it was a fun project for the day.


Wheeling the Dodge Viper by rsutton198 | oneninety8.com, on Flickr

Here is the rig on the little car.

Congrats on making it into Jalopnik!

http://jalopnik.com/5978011/here-is-...er-wheels-ever
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Daily/spirited driving they were fine. I really do like the PSS's much better for everything but the Hankook's worked. The sidewalls where a little flexy but that wasn't a big deal for that type of driving.
Awesome, thanks for the input Rob. Just one last quick question man, hope I'm not bugging you, but do you think the Hankooks in a 265/35 would work on those same XXRs? Do you think I could run them without it looking foolish? I like the meaty look, but dont want to overdo it ya know? Thanks again man!
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Congrats on making it into Jalopnik!

http://jalopnik.com/5978011/here-is-...er-wheels-ever
Thanks! It is actually still the featured article on the homepage this morning.



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I was curious ( sorry if its been answered) have you done anything to fix the rattles in the car? Did you dynamat anywhere and if so does it help? My car isn't horrible but I hate any type of rattle!
A lot of Dynamat. In the doors...rear hatch area...and several others. The more bass and midbass you add to these cars the more they sound like a tin can with coins in it.

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Awesome, thanks for the input Rob. Just one last quick question man, hope I'm not bugging you, but do you think the Hankooks in a 265/35 would work on those same XXRs? Do you think I could run them without it looking foolish? I like the meaty look, but dont want to overdo it ya know? Thanks again man!
Yeah those would fit great.
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