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Old 04-22-2001, 10:04 PM   #1
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Post Subaru specific woofer enclosures update #2

hello all, long time no post on this subject. having gotten all my work done and out of the way, i have finally finished the side panel enclosure #2. if any of you recall the last topic i had, the side enclsoures were basically deemed not very good by myself and omahasubaru. i vowed to redo them and make them a ton better, and now i am back. i feel very confident about these new boxes and am finally ready to release them. jon, omahasubaru, came by last night to do his own listening test, for like an hour or so. i believe he left very happy and would also give me the okay on these boxes. hopefully he will post sometime soon to give his own opinion on them, however brutal it may be. so back to the topic. all three enclosures are ready to go, and i will be meeting with the people who will be building these boxes later this week. with luck and having things all go as planned, the new site should be ready next monday, with orders being taken at that time. i should have final pricing later this week, probably like thurs or friday, so watch the boards or my site. as i have said before, i am very pleased with these enlcosures and know that any purchasers will be also. thanks for all the input you guys have given me. talk to you all later.

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Old 04-23-2001, 04:54 AM   #2
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Chiming in as I got to work... It was kind of a depressing drive into work as I listened to those enclosures last night for over an hour last night with 3 different subs. My car is just running upgraded speakers of the deck, so... I missed all the bass I heard.

As far as the boxes and sound is concerned. They are worlds above the last enclosures and now can be very close to the rear corner box. YES they can! Although you'd need to spend a little bit more on your subs, it still sounds great with even lower end subs.

I was very impressed and now am seriously considering putting these babies in my car. Now the only issue is what subs to use. of the three I heard I think the best bang for the buck is the JL 8w0's. They sounded great and the 8w3 were a step up in sound quality.. better low end range, and smoother transitioning, but as the w3's are long through woofers, I'd probablly stick with the w0's as I can't afford the w3's.

All in all I was impressed with the way, Korn, 311, Beastie Boys, Method Man, Limp Bizkit, Megadeth, Pantera, Metallica, & P.O.D. sounded!

These things impressed me quite a bit more than the last enclosures he'd built.

If anyone wants me to elaborate any section of my review, feel free to post here and I will reply.

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Old 04-23-2001, 09:01 AM   #3
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I don't have my car yet so this might sound stupid. Will these side enclosures fit a WRX wagon? I Can't remember if the Wagon had the same side pockets that the sedan does. I'm currently planning a system and hate the idea of a sub-box in the back.
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Old 04-23-2001, 09:39 AM   #4
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These are designed for the GC8 body style Pre MY02 Impreza coupes only.

The various trunk enclousures will work on both sedans and coupes of the same body style.

Kevin hasn't done any WRX development as well there aren't too many around, especially not many looking for ICE.
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Old 04-23-2001, 10:50 AM   #5
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i did get a good look at a WRX wagon the other day, and i think that the trunk side panel enclosure amy work on the WRX, but i havent tested it to be sure. hopefully i can find out soon and let you all know.

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Old 04-23-2001, 02:33 PM   #6
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what is ICE, in car electronics?

i see that everywhere, and all i can think of is jay-z wearing a diamong ring...???

news for the enclosures sounds good - keep us posted - i've been contemplating doing pretty much the same thing for as long as i've had my RS, if you can do it though, i'll definitely be looking your way


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Old 04-23-2001, 03:44 PM   #7
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So what's the cost going to be like? Is this the sub/amp rack combo?

Just curious.
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Old 04-23-2001, 06:16 PM   #8
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Interested, depending on price. Did you end up having to cut anything? Did the new ones rattle at all?
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Old 04-23-2001, 07:14 PM   #9
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answer time. first, i have all 3 enclosures tested and ready to roll. those being the new interior side panel enclosures, the trunk side enclosure, and the trunk wedge box, not to mention all the prefab boxes i have. none of the boxes requires any cutting of the vehicle, however a few holes will need to be drilled to mount them. i have not set a definite price as of yet, so i will speculate what i am hoping for:

interior side panels- $275 w/grills.
trunk side enlcosure w/amp rack- $250-275.
trunk wedge box- $150-175.

as i said all these prices have yet to be confirmed since i am meeting with the place that is building all the boxes hopefully wednesday night. with luck i can promise them large orders, since that will drop the price on the boxes. the more i have ordered, the cheaper they will get. i am very amazed by the output and sound of these boxes, and it takes alot to amaze me. i know that the 2 people other than me that have heard them agree and are also very happy with the performance for the price i am shooting for.

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Old 04-23-2001, 09:08 PM   #10
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When you have some pictures of the side enclosures will you post them along with the price? I've gone to a couple of places and they want a lot of money to make those things, so if you are going to do a group order I am very interested if I have the $$ at the time, of course.
Are these easy enough for someone who doesn't know anything about insatalling stuff like this to do or should I have a shop do it?
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Old 04-24-2001, 06:53 AM   #11
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so what do the grills for the side panel install look like?
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Old 04-24-2001, 07:48 AM   #12
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nkodemus82: ICE = In Car Entertainment
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Old 04-24-2001, 07:57 AM   #13
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Very interested. Would we be able to cut out our own hole for our specific woofer? I was thinking about getting a square solo baric 8 inch.

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Old 04-24-2001, 08:18 AM   #14
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Turk I'm sure Kevin would allow you to be able to cut your own hole for any of the enclosures, but you must know that the solobaric (square woofers) Are way too deep to fit in the side panel, as for his other enclosures I'm sure he'd be willing to precut for solobaric if you requested it.

I'll let Kevin answer from here on.. I just ask him the same soloBaric question the other day as I heard a pair of them in their demo Focus and well was impressed.

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Old 04-24-2001, 08:40 AM   #15
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Turk,
Any reason why the square solobarics? To put it simply, that's like dropping a brick in the water(solobaric) vs. a bowling ball(traditional). What is going to upset the water more? What is going to have a more uniform reaction?
Besides those points, the solobaric design, whether square or round is very very outdated.

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Old 04-24-2001, 08:54 AM   #16
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thanks imprez...
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Old 04-24-2001, 08:58 AM   #17
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For all you Solo Baric people the sub is awesome and sowhat if the design is dated. I had one 12 round solo baric in my old suberban and it was crazy. Hit hard but was also very musical. I am gonna get a pair and either put comp vr's in em or a pair of round solo barics if i can get a pair. I personally prefer the round over square. I have heard both and the round gets my vote not square.
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Old 04-24-2001, 09:20 AM   #18
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Actually according to their site the Solo 8 inch only needs a mounting depth of 4 5/8 inches. According to another guy that has done this install he GUESSED you could fit up to ~5.5 inches deep.

Oh yeah so is he saying his incloser is a sealed box or something else?

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Old 04-24-2001, 09:46 AM   #19
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mcu81-What are you comparing it to? Also, the point of a solobaric is to act like two speakers mounted in an isobaric chamber, which they do not. They are meant for small spaces yet when I had 2 10" isobarics in my '93 MR2 in the proper sealed inclosures, they were put to shame by a set of CHEAP JL 10W1's in the same enclosure. So I got Boston Acoustic Pro Series 10.5 2ohm subs that just blew them away in every possible aspect.

My point is, many subs sound good, but compared to what? You have to have a baseline.
Example: Someone who has never driven before might get in my subie and think it's fast, but since I've driven other cars, I know it's piss slow

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Old 04-24-2001, 09:16 PM   #20
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i was thinking the other day that the new solo L7 8's may actually fit in the side panel enclosure. i havent tried it yet, but i may have to. bratmantlz, the grills will look like a flat version of the cloth insert with charcoal grill cloth. just a basic grill to cover them. the new solos are a sweet woofer. they are loud as hell. i dont know what you are calling outdated, how many other manufacturers made a square woofer. all drivers regardless of size or make are outdated since the original design really hasnt changed that much from the early 1900's. the solo is a great woofer, and i you go by cone area, that brick is alot bigger than any bowling ball that is the same size to start with.

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$275 with grills for the sides. do they have speaker wire ran into them? and on the outside to connect to the amp? having to splice wouldnt look clean>? damn very interested... $ is the prob.. must get $ thats $275 shipped? right? hmm any 8inch woofer will fit in it right? or only fosgates?
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Old 04-25-2001, 08:50 AM   #22
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supersube-Are you a fan of 6x9's as well? I don't want to start a flame war, but compare the solos to ANY other high-quality sub in their pricerange, and they lose in every aspect.

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Old 04-25-2001, 10:33 AM   #23
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a fan of 6x9's huh, cant say that i am, since they arent loud enough for me, nor do i ever install rears in any of my cars. I really dont think that comparing at a price range is the best, but i do agree, there are better woofers out there at that price. what woofers are you thinking of. however, most wont give you the pressure and small box size that the solos come with. i have gone from a JL W3 to a solo and gained alittle as far as spl goes. the only problem is that the solos really dont hold the high power that the JL will, which ends up passing the solo back up at high power levels. besides, the solos break quite a bit and arent really very reliable. I myself prefer crossfire to anything out there in a given price range and will stick to that. how do you feel about the fact that i stated that all speakers are outdated, and that they are all not really that different?
i am hoping for that price being shipped, but i doubt i will be able to swing that, maybe like $25 more with shipping. almost every 8" should fit, the JLW3's fit fine, and they are pretty deep. the boxes also have terminal cups mounted on the front of the box below the woofer so they are easy to get to
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Old 04-25-2001, 11:38 AM   #24
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so are these sealed enclosers?
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Old 04-25-2001, 08:46 PM   #25
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yes all the boxes are sealed, i wish i could have come up with some ported ones though, unfortunately not enough room to do so. oh well, i'll keep them in mind and try something out later.
Chad, what makes you think that the only way a sub can sound good is if it is round. all a woofer is designed to do is move air, it doesnt matter what shape it is. any shape, as long as it has a true pistonic movement, it wont matter. The only thing that circle does better is the fact that the surround is the exact same size and distance from the center of the woofer, thereby equaling pressure across the front of the speaker. What about the nex hexagon woofer from xtant? if the design didnt work or wasnt what people would buy, then they wouldnt make them. what about waveguides and horns, or even ribbons? they arent conventional round drivers, yet they sound awesome. just some food for thought.

subee sound is getting closer to opening the doors, i cant wait till next week. should be pretty cool. wait till you all see what else i have in store for subee sound.

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