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Old 06-13-2012, 07:54 PM   #1
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After a 3 month wait after pre-ordering our BRZ it finally arrived on 5/21, actually 5 days early from its promised delivery date. We purchased it from at Grand Subaru in Bensenville, IL and we couldn't be happier with the experience. We opted for the premium option with the 6-speed auto, spoiler, fender flares and (gas door decal) lol.

Here is a picture of the car 20 min after it got unloaded from the truck.



Some pictures from in front of the shop







After the 6 mile calm drive from the dealership to the shop I have got to admit that the seats in this car have got to be the nicest most comfortable and supportive seats to ever come in a subaru. I decided to wait for traffic to die down in the evening before it was time to see what this BRZ has to offer on our test track outside the shop. Overall I will give this car an A++ on the handling, it has a very responsive steering system and is very tight with hardly any slop. The ride is very comfortable yet sportscar feeling and is very pleasant to drive, even at 110 mph, yes with only 13 miles on the odo its been to 110 already. No easy breakins here.LOL
Having got the 6 speed auto I was kindoff worried about how it would shift, how well the paddle shift system would work and how responsive it was since its not a double clutch system like most new auto sports cars.Again Subaru did not disappoint us here again, under normal driving the shifts are fast but tame and soft, under power the shifts are even faster and actually pretty hard which is good for saving the clutch packs and not adding extra heat in the trans from slow shifts. The paddle shifts are mounted to the steering wheel and could be a bit bigger, but I do have big hands so maybe its just my preference. I will tell you that the coolest part about the trans is you can downshift as fast as you'd like from 6th to 1st and actually bang the revlimiter without being told no, and on the downshifts the engine actually rev matches automatically.

Now here comes the part that everyone wants to know, is it fast? Well it depends by what you mean by "fast". Fast and nimble in the corners? able to be a great autocross car? have the ability to outhandle an STI, Miata, S2000 right from the factory floor? The answer to all those questions is Yes and I think it can do it very well.
Now if you say fast in straight line acceleration well I think maybe Dave Mirra on his 10 speed huffy might be able to keep up! It is slow! Slower than a stock wrx slow. Granted this might be because of the auto but even with a manual I don't see things getting much faster.

But lets be honest this car is not means to be a dyno/dragstrip queen, if you want that go buy a GTR or Mustand GT500. This car is meant to be driven on the road and give you that goosbump feeling of going on an onramp at 80mph or taking it to the autocross track on a sunday and taking the trophy home, but also be able to drive it to work on Monday morning with the A/C on without any worries.

Needless to say we will be doing a lot to this car over the next month or two looking at improving everything on this car it lacks, and providing the community with some great Made in the USA upgrades.

Here is the car just 8 hrs after receiving it in our R&D department ready for some upgrades.



As of 5/22/12 we have 17x10 ADVAN RGII with 275/40-17 hoosiers for the track day that weekend.



We were debating doing an STI swap, but as of right now nothing is set in stone. Although the first Made in the USA prototype catback exhaust is done




The car with the Advans


We also received the first set of BRZ coilovers thanks to our good friends and Sponsors of our STI dragcar "KW Automotive" they are looking great!

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Old 06-13-2012, 07:55 PM   #2
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Update: The BRZ got a workout this weekend (5/25/12). With just 200 miles on the clock, this past Friday I decided to join a couple of my customers at Autobahn country club for the SCCA driving event there. With my past racing experience I was able to go into the advanced group and really open the car up. The BRZ is such a pleasure to drive on the track and is really a whole different animal then on the street. Its a very well balanced and neutral feeling car, a little more body roll then expected but for the stock suspension it was actually very good.
After 3 sessions of wideopen testing I did start to experience quite a lot of brake fade and started to boil the fluid to the point where braking was almost not existent. Overall the car gets a 9 out of 10 from me.

Then on Monday (5/28/12) with 350 miles on the BRZ I took it to Great Lakes dragway to test the car on the 1/4 mile, here is where I really didn't have my hopes up to much (since the BRZ is not a straight away car but more a Autocross/ Roadrace car) but I was kind off hoping for something in the 15 sec range.
Well the best out of two runs was a 16.5 at 86 mph.

Needless to say a little disapointing but we all know thats not what the car is built for. Below is a video of the 16.5 run with our new P&L BRZ catback Exhaust.


The BRZ has a lot of new R&D P&L parts on it since our last update.

Some preliminary pictures of our P&L BRZ catback exhaust. This is type 1 of the 3 seperate style types we will be producing. Hope you guys like it!







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Old 06-13-2012, 09:42 PM   #3
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So... is the left side of the exhaust just for show? I notice that only the right side goes through the muffler.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:17 AM   #4
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Are those KW V3s? What spring rates?
What offset are the wheels? How is the fitment with those tires?
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:49 AM   #5
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how much additional clearance does the coilover give?
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:49 PM   #6
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Hey guys thanks for all the comments. We have some big things coming in the next couple of weeks for the BRZ/FRS.

Here are some pictures of the P&L Motorsports stainless steel brake lines installed. I cant post any more info or pricing, but if you check our this sites brake classified section you will find more info there.






We also put on some STI Brembo calipers and DBA 4000 rotors with hawk HT-10 (for track use). While we were in there we also upgraded the wheel studs to some ARP extended units.






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Old 06-15-2012, 12:11 AM   #7
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2 questions...

Why did you go with the auto version?

How are you launching the car?
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:05 AM   #8
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So... is the left side of the exhaust just for show? I notice that only the right side goes through the muffler.
No the left (driver) side exhaust is functional. We are going to be releasing this exhaust soon and there will be more details on why we left it unmuffled then.

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Are those KW V3s? What spring rates?
What offset are the wheels? How is the fitment with those tires?
Yes they are KW V3! Wheels are 17x8.5 +35 offset! Tires currently on car are 255/40 front 265/40 rear no fitment issues even after Coilover drop. Had a 275/40 hoosier on still fits fine.

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how much additional clearance does the coilover give?
Are you talking about the inner wheel to rim/tire gap? If so I'd say a good 3/4 to 1"
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:16 AM   #9
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2 questions...

Why did you go with the auto version?

How are you launching the car?
We went with the auto because Paul the owner of the shop is in a wheelchair and can't drive stick. And since he is the main person that is going to be driving/testing everything we chose the auto.

Plus we like the challenge of making autos quick! VVVV

In that BRZ 16.5 video the car was not launched hence the slow time. The car does however leave the line best around stalling the tc at 3k.
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We went with the auto because Paul the owner of the shop is in a wheelchair and can't drive stick. And since he is the main person that is going to be driving/testing everything we chose the auto.

Plus we like the challenge of making autos quick! VVVV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Zz-ZIdRT8

In that BRZ 16.5 video the car was not launched hence the slow time. The car does however leave the line best around stalling the tc at 3k.
That's pretty cool! I have bad knees and choose not to drive manuals which is why I have a 4EAT WRX. Usually autos are ignored for the most part by tuner companies so I hope you guys have a lot in store for the BRZ auto.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:07 AM   #11
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I'm in Des Plaines, and just got a 6MT Prem.

If you guys need a MT BRZ to try things out on, I always love freebies, lol.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:23 AM   #12
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I like the brake upgrades - that's the way it should have come from the factory, was anything special needed to get the STI Brembos to fit?
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