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Old 07-03-2012, 05:19 PM   #176
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it's looking like a bynum for howard trade...not sure if we want that cry baby.
As opposed to our current crybaby?
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:21 PM   #177
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bynum has never said anything about wanting to be traded, he just wanted to shoot a 3
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:27 PM   #178
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it's looking like a bynum for howard trade...not sure if we want that cry baby.
Where did you get that from? Gasol will be gone before Bynum.
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bynum has never said anything about wanting to be traded, he just wanted to shoot a 3
He's quite entitled for a kid who has yet to prove himself capable of solid consistency. He may not be asking for a trade, but he doesn't seem interested in taking on a whole lot responsibility.


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Where did you get that from? Gasol will be gone before Bynum.
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HANG TIME HEADQUARTERS – You had to know we’d get to this point sooner or later in the ongoing Dwight Howard trade demand saga.

For the player without a true peer at his position, the Los Angeles Lakers’ Andrew Bynum is the closest thing to Howard when it comes to low-post operators.

With the Orlando Magic fielding calls from all over the league about potential deals, it only makes sense that they dial up the only other team in league with a big man capable of wearing the title of best big man in the game.

According to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports, that’s exactly the idea the Magic have as they plot the exit strategy for Howard:

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The Lakers and Magic have had talks about a possible deal, and plan to talk further about constructing a trade. No deals are imminent, and the process has remained fluid as teams have begun to inquire with more serious offers for Howard.

Sources say there is one other trade scenario for a significant player that intrigues Magic general manager Rob Hennigan, but that target is unclear. Before the Magic would agree to consummate a trade for Bynum, they would need to know they could sign him to a contract extension, sources said. Bynum is entering the final year of his contract in the 2012-13 season.

What’s more, Bynum wouldn’t nearly be enough to satisfy Hennigan’s desires for a return on Howard. The Lakers would need to send draft picks and absorb long-term money off the Magic’s payroll, sources said.
They’ve had this conversation before, several times actually. The last time was at the trade deadline, before Howard signed away his right to enter free agency this summer. Bynum was experiencing arguably the best stretch of his NBA career while Howard’s season was just days away from ending with a back injury that required surgery.

There’s also that bit about Howard not wanting to play in Los Angeles or as second fiddle to Kobe Bryant. That would need to be addressed before any potential deals could get rolling. (The Lakers were initially on Howard’s preferred list of teams to play, along with the Nets and Mavericks, but disappeared after rumblings about a rift between Howard and Bryant began to spread.)

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Any conversation about maturity regarding either Howard or Bynum right now would get nasty. Both of them have made some questionable moves throughout the course of the past seven months.

What’s undeniable for both players is their talent and their standing among big men in basketball. By most any reasonable measure they rank 1-2 and the order is an argument we can have later (or just leave to TNT’s Charles Barkley and Shaquille O’Neal).

And speaking of O’Neal, does anyone else find it to be just a bit interesting for the Magic and Lakers to engage in talks about swapping superstar big men after the way O’Neal bolted Orlando for Los Angeles years ago?
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Alright, riddle me this: You guys get rid of Bynum, bring in Howard, and Gasol is on his way to Minnesota or some ****. Who becomes your center? Howard is a 4, not a 5.

Also, Howard said he wants to go to Brooklyn or he'll **** with Orlando's program. I don't see L.A. being in the mix.
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lakers need a good point guard (nash/deron williams?) and a better bench.
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:44 PM   #182
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lakers need a good point guard (nash/deron williams?) and a better bench.
I don't disagree with that at all. D-Will is going to either stay in Brooklyn or head to Dallas. No way does he end up in L.A. I don't see Nash there either. So who is it going to be at PG?
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If Orlando is smart they should take the Nets offer (if true).

3 first round picks plus Lopez, Brooks and someone else. That's a lot especially all those picks.

Could then be Howard, Johnson, Wallace and Deron. Contender right there.
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Nash got offered a ****load of money and years to go to the Raptors of all places. Raptors also got Landry Fields. Not important except that they drafted a guard and have Demar. Demar could be on his way out. I would take him on the Bulls.
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Jason Terry to the Celtics?

Shuttlesworth to the Heat?

Looking like it...
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If Orlando is smart they should take the Nets offer (if true).

3 first round picks plus Lopez, Brooks and someone else. That's a lot especially all those picks.

Could then be Howard, Johnson, Wallace and Deron. Contender right there.
Those are my feels.

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Nash got offered a ****load of money and years to go to the Raptors of all places. Raptors also got Landry Fields. Not important except that they drafted a guard and have Demar. Demar could be on his way out. I would take him on the Bulls.
Nash, no matter who lands him, is going to be brought in for developmental and team building purposes. Toronto makes more sense given that whole Canadian thing.
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Howard is a 4, not a 5.
LOLWTF?
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LOLWTF?
At 6'10"/6'11" and 265, he's a tad bit smaller than the prototypical center. I'm not knocking on his abilities, just saying that he is more effective as a 4.
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At 6'10"/6'11" and 265, he's a tad bit smaller than the prototypical center. I'm not knocking on his abilities, just saying that he is more effective as a 4.
He's the best 5 in the league and plays the position better than anyone has in years. There is no debate, whatsoever.
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Looking like it...
I'm going to have a huge sad if Allen goes to the Heat.
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At 6'10"/6'11" and 265, he's a tad bit smaller than the prototypical center. I'm not knocking on his abilities, just saying that he is more effective as a 4.
I think this is the part of basketball where numbers can be misleading. I'm not sure if you've watched any games where Dwight played, but I can't see a reason to put him as PF instead of C.

He might be listed as 265 lbs, but if you watch him play, he might as well be 300 lbs with his strength.


.....and yes, sure, he was goofing around during the all-star game attempting 3's, but he's no Dirk.
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Williams officially signs with the Nets for $98,772,321. I'm assuming Howard is next. They just have to figure out the trade.

I thought the new rules were designed to prevent this.
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Also, I would argue that Dwight has far worse ball skills than most centers in the league. He would make a horrible PF. His only game is power, and you're kidding yourself if you think that hook shot and that little bank shot jumper are going in because of anything other than the fact that throwing it at the hoop from that close is going to go in 30% of the time.
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Williams officially signs with the Nets for $98,772,321. I'm assuming Howard is next. They just have to figure out the trade.

I thought the new rules were designed to prevent this.
The only advantage for fans is that someone can actually contend with Miami in the East.

As a Bulls fan I'm already coming to terms with the imminent mediocre season for us.
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i'm going to laugh my ass off if the nets don't land howard and are stuck with a huge paying contract for deron williams without the possibility of going to the playoffs
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i'm going to laugh my ass off if the nets don't land howard and are stuck with a huge paying contract for deron williams without the possibility of going to the playoffs
I think they would be a playoff team even without Howard, but no higher than a 6-8 seed. So essentially a first round out (except this year )
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Not to mention they'll be paying $Texas for Joe Johnson, one of the leagues most prolific losers. Although, he will probably fit nicely on a team where he's second or third in command (where he actually belongs - and has belonged since he left Phoenix years ago).
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Not to mention they'll be paying $Texas for Joe Johnson, one of the leagues most prolific losers. Although, he will probably fit nicely on a team where he's second or third in command (where he actually belongs - and has belonged since he left Phoenix years ago).


That PHX team was stacked. I loved being in college out there from 05-08. I swear I watched almost all of the games from start to finish
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Kick in the nuts for Dallas but money is money. I'm sure we've got some kind of wicked plan B if we can pull Cuban away from ****-tank
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I think they can make the playoffs without Dwight.

I wonder if the money can work out to even get Dwight. Need to back load contracts or pay millions in taxes. Not a problem for taxes for a billionaire. He could make that tax money back in all the merchandise sales, tickets, ...
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