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Old 12-03-2012, 06:59 PM   #26
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and ya dont need the 4 pot calipers.....just do the h6 rears with good fluid, ss lines and good pads...add a mc brace and
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:40 PM   #27
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Omgz!! I can't imagine why the 06/07 WRX guys aren't trading in their 4/2 pot setup a for the 2 pot sliders and H6 upgrade!?!? Don't they know what they are missing!?

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Old 12-03-2012, 08:58 PM   #28
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Centric stop tech pads are cheap and don't take much to get up to temp. You just need to heat them up every once in awhile to get a good initial bite since they glaze over in the boring daily commute. I'm able to easily initiate the abs with them at any reasonable speed. I'm running the stock front/ lgt h6 rear currently
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:11 PM   #29
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Omgz!! I can't imagine why the 06/07 WRX guys aren't trading in their 4/2 pot setup a for the 2 pot sliders and H6 upgrade!?!? Don't they know what they are missing!?

you realize that the braking distance actually increased from 02-05 to the 06-07's according to pretty much every independent review of the vehicles?

123ft vs 115ft for 60-0.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:02 PM   #30
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Braking distance isn't everything

What's the weight difference between the 04/05 and 06/07?
On average, the 06/07 is 125lbs heavier.

What's the difference in wheels?
04/05 uses a 16.5lb 16x6.5" wheel
06/07 uses a 21lb 17x7" wheel
ie more rotational inertia in the 06/07 wheel

What's the difference in tires?
04/05 used 205/55/16 RE2s
06/07 used 215/45/17 RE2s
A meager increase.


Think about these things before throwing out numbers to try and discount the 4/2 pot setup
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:29 AM   #31
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Braking distance isn't everything

What's the weight difference between the 04/05 and 06/07?
On average, the 06/07 is 125lbs heavier.

What's the difference in wheels?
04/05 uses a 16.5lb 16x6.5" wheel
06/07 uses a 21lb 17x7" wheel
ie more rotational inertia in the 06/07 wheel

What's the difference in tires?
04/05 used 205/55/16 RE2s
06/07 used 215/45/17 RE2s
A meager increase.


Think about these things before throwing out numbers to try and discount the 4/2 pot setup


d0000000000000000000000000000000000000d

there is NO magic to the 4pot/2pot setup OTEHR THAN the 290mm rear discs

THAT is IT

id rather have the brakes the way i had them on my 02 than my 06....WAY better when i was done with them

and i didnt have the 2pots in back

stop blowin smoke up yer own ass...it aint workin
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:10 AM   #32
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Then why aren't you swapping out the 4/2 pots? Lol. You're a hypocrite. You fellate the 2 pot slider setup and bash the 4 pots, yet you continue to run the 4/2 pots. If you TRULY felt this strongly about it you'd be swapping them out for the "better" setup.

But you don't. You just think it's kiddie k000 to say things like "kiddie k000" and "d0000d" and "yer".

Fact is, I posted factual data compiled from cars101.com and the stickies here that more than likely makes up for the 8ft difference between the years. This makes you angry. Cue Internet tough guy mode lol. Go back to pushing stop tech pads, tranny oil mixes, and federal tires.

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Old 12-04-2012, 09:24 AM   #33
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considering the 4pots are weaker than the 2pot sliding caliper, then even with the H6 rear there is still some bias improvement to be had.


TIC tell me that even with a full stoptech system up front you're still not going to overheat the VENTED rears first.

i feel a solid disk would be a much different story.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:40 AM   #34
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But whenever I've searched around for technical advice Scotty does seem to be one of the forum gurus that tends to have solid knowledge of all things Suby...
I'm amazed you were able to find posts in which he showed that knowledge rather than ranting about who knows what.

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But I have a hard time believing that all I need to do is swap to StopTechs and my 2/1 pots are going to suddenly become amazing... so I feel that the 4/2 pot question is still open for more discussion.
I think there is little (if anything at all) to be gained by going with the 2-pot rears. I do think the 4-pots are a useful upgrade.

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d0000000000000000000000000000000000000d
[Dude,] there is NO magic to the 4pot/2pot setup OTEHR [OTHER] THAN the 290mm rear discs[.] THAT is IT[.] id [I'd] rather have the brakes the way i[ I] had them on my 02 than my 06....WAY better when i[ I] was done with them[.] [A]nd i[ I] didnt have the 2pots in back[.]
I have H6 rears on my car. When I went from '02-05 WRX fronts to 4-pot fronts, I stopped having brake fade issues at track events. Same fluid, same pads, same rotors. If anything I'm harder on the brakes now than I was before. And I haven't even bothered to install my RCE cooling ducts at the last few track events because I don't need them anymore. It's almost like there is more to braking performance than just raw brake torque.

But yes, the 4-pots are a weaker, inferior system.

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But you don't. You just think it's kiddie k000 to say things like "kiddie k000" and "d0000d" and "yer".

Fact is, I posted factual data compiled from cars101.com and the stickies here that more than likely makes up for the 8ft difference between the years. This makes you angry. Cue Internet tough guy mode lol. Go back to pushing stop tech pads, tranny oil mixes, and federal tires.
Well said.
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:22 PM   #35
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How's front/rear bias with 4pot front and h6 rear?
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:32 AM   #36
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I'm amazed you were able to find posts in which he showed that knowledge rather than ranting about who knows what.


I think there is little (if anything at all) to be gained by going with the 2-pot rears. I do think the 4-pots are a useful upgrade.


I have H6 rears on my car. When I went from '02-05 WRX fronts to 4-pot fronts, I stopped having brake fade issues at track events. Same fluid, same pads, same rotors. If anything I'm harder on the brakes now than I was before. And I haven't even bothered to install my RCE cooling ducts at the last few track events because I don't need them anymore. It's almost like there is more to braking performance than just raw brake torque.

But yes, the 4-pots are a weaker, inferior system.


Well said.
you blithering blundering boob

I HAD THE 4POTS ON MY 02 WRX and they are NOT what made the brakes better

the 290mm rear rotors ARE WHAT MADE THE BRAKES BETTER

and your track usage of another kind of car is irrelevant to what we are discussing here, cupcake

YOU dont drive or own ANY WRX of any sort....so get out of this thread

and stop trying to **** me in the ass here....it aint working

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Old 12-05-2012, 12:39 AM   #37
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How's front/rear bias with 4pot front and h6 rear?



it makes it THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE

the us market got mismatched brake parts from good old fhi on the 2.0 cars.....NO other market got the garbage brakes WE got

EVERY other market got the 294mm/290mm rotors

the calipers are irrelevant

this has been posted here many times with all the calculations done for you already


the CALIPERS are IRRELEVANT TO ALL OF THIS, really....they do FAR less than pad compounds do to any of the 'numbers'

the rotor size is NOT irrelevant
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it makes it THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE

the us market got mismatched brake parts from good old fhi on the 2.0 cars.....NO other market got the garbage brakes WE got

EVERY other market got the 294mm/290mm rotors

the calipers are irrelevant

this has been posted here many times with all the calculations done for you already

the CALIPERS are IRRELEVANT TO ALL OF THIS, really....they do FAR less than pad compounds do to any of the 'numbers'

the rotor size is NOT irrelevant
Scotty relax doooooooood

@Patrick
I already run the h6 rear and stock front calipers. I'm interested in the brake bias
change caused by the difference in caliper piston area between the front 2 pots and front 4 pots. Do you see any significant difference between the stock / 4pot calipers with h6 rear setup while late braking into turns?
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Old 12-05-2012, 05:41 AM   #41
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you blithering blundering boob
You're mad because Pat helps people without resorting to excessive use of caps lock and the number zero.
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Scotty relax doooooooood

@Patrick
I already run the h6 rear and stock front calipers. I'm interested in the brake bias
change caused by the difference in caliper piston area between the front 2 pots and front 4 pots. Do you see any significant difference between the stock / 4pot calipers with h6 rear setup while late braking into turns?
there won't be SFA. it's an improvement, but a miniscule one. not worth doing.


as scotty said, it's the 290mm rear that makes the real difference, though i wouldn't be surprised to see the solid disk overheat pretty quickly.

your next upgrade is rear 2pots with stoptech or brembo rears and LGT fronts. (or at least some ducting to the 294mm fronts).
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