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Old 06-27-2012, 06:47 PM   #1
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Hi was looking for dynos sheets of the stock location ATP gtx3582 was wondering if anybody here has this turbo on their cars or has any dyno graphs. I'm looking to get this turbo
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:06 PM   #2
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use the search button in proven power bragging
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:05 PM   #3
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I did couldn't find anything about the apt gtx3582
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:22 AM   #4
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Is your engine built or do you have meth / high octane gas? If not, you won't get close to what that turbo can do. Consider headwork for high rpm flow improvement too. I have the ATP gtx3076r 3" stock location and it's barely waking up but I need pistons and more octane. Search my posts.
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Old 06-29-2012, 02:48 AM   #5
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Ok thanks I just got forged pistons with supporting mods no head work
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:42 PM   #6
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Slow to spool.
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:24 PM   #7
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Agree with Clark.

Any particular reason to not go rotated? Want to keep it stock looking with bolt on parts?
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:28 PM   #8
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Stock location 35r is just an exercise in futility...
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:31 PM   #9
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Slow to spool.
This.... I had one


It was fun though, I should have gone rotated.
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:51 PM   #10
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i live in california and the cops here are no bueno with rotated kits i was looking at the stock location atp gtx3576 they say it 3076 spool but with 35r top end anybody have inputs on that?
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:16 PM   #11
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i live in california and the cops here are no bueno with rotated kits i was looking at the stock location atp gtx3576 they say it 3076 spool but with 35r top end anybody have inputs on that?
Who's they? I have the non gtx version of the 3586 and spoolup was at 4700rpm and topend was less than a rotated 35r.

More like 40r spoolup and 3076 topend.
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:47 PM   #12
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Who's they? I have the non gtx version of the 3586 and spoolup was at 4700rpm and topend was less than a rotated 35r.

More like 40r spoolup and 3076 topend.
what do you mean 3586? i spoke with atp the gtx3576 has the smaller compresser wheel which is the 76mm compared to the 82mm which is on the gtx3582 which is why i would assume the spool up on the gtx3576 would be faster than the 3582.. in my opinion with the gtx3076 the 76mm wheel is to much for the 30 housing. so its kind of a mixmatch
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:13 PM   #13
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If they are making a GTX3576, that would be an awesome combo, although I doubt anything ATP put out would spool quickly. Their turbos have always seemed to spool slow.
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:39 PM   #14
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I meant 3582 damn little keyboard.
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:41 PM   #15
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The 3576 has been proven to spool similarly to the 3076 but with higher power capability. Search around some guys and you'll find the details. Basically, since the GTX3576-R has been introduced, there's not much point to the 3076.
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:59 PM   #16
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The 3576 has been proven to spool similarly to the 3076 but with higher power capability. Search around some guys and you'll find the details. Basically, since the GTX3576-R has been introduced, there's not much point to the 3076.
Yah that's what I wanted to hear I can't wait to get the turbo the ATP gtx3576
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If they are making a GTX3576, that would be an awesome combo, although I doubt anything ATP put out would spool quickly. Their turbos have always seemed to spool slow.
One thing you must understand is that atp is using the OEM uppipe to feed it air. It is about half the size of any rotated setup so it's near impossible to get good spool. It's not atps fault.
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Old 07-05-2012, 09:49 AM   #18
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One thing you must understand is that atp is using the OEM uppipe to feed it air. It is about half the size of any rotated setup so it's near impossible to get good spool. It's not atps fault.
Sorry to pick on you, but this is interweb misinformation at its best. For best spool you want an up-pipe that is OEM sized or smaller. Large tubing slows exhaust velocity, is a larger volume to pressurize, and creates a large ridge (flow disruption) as the exhaust enters the smaller turbine housing.

If we were talking N/A cars it would be a different story, but turbocharged cars play by a completely different set of rules when it comes to header/exhaust design. Smaller is almost always better unless you're building a single use car ie; 1,000whp drag car.
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And if you want reference for what a gtx3076r does, search my posts. I have one in my car. I get 21psi before 4k and it keeps pressure to redline. Put down 37x whp on the SoCal Cobb dyno. This is with stock pistons and ca91 gas only. Pick up July 2012 import tuner for the write up, it's in the back.
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Sorry to pick on you, but this is interweb misinformation at its best. For best spool you want an up-pipe that is OEM sized or smaller. Large tubing slows exhaust velocity, is a larger volume to pressurize, and creates a large ridge (flow disruption) as the exhaust enters the smaller turbine housing.

If we were talking N/A cars it would be a different story, but turbocharged cars play by a completely different set of rules when it comes to header/exhaust design. Smaller is almost always better unless you're building a single use car ie; 1,000whp drag car.
If that were the case how are people spooling gt30/gt35rs alot sooner on rotated setups?
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Being rotated doesn't mean a larger up pipe. The purpose is to allow for a larger intake so that the turbo has less restriction sucking in air to build pressure, hence faster spool.
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If that were the case how are people spooling gt30/gt35rs alot sooner on rotated setups?
A lot sooner? You have same size turbo (rotated vs non-rotated), on the same car, with plots from an independant source showing this?
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The GTX3576 is a really neat turbo. Packing the best of both worlds from the 30R and the 35R you cant go wrong. Very good pricing here

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The stock location GTX3076R / GTS3576R uses a 3" inlet hose, but there is still a 90 degree turn since the stock air cleaner location mandates this. And as everyone knows, the space under the intake manifold isn't all that spacious and this is really the issue when comparing the rotated setups to stock location.

But in states like CA, stock location is the way to go... the polished housing may not be the best idea, but it's pretty...



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