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Old 03-11-2011, 01:54 PM   #1
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I have been reading and searching about the differences and whatnot about these two oil filters, and I can't seem to find a definitive answer.

Which one is a better application for my '06 2.5i?

The PL14460 has the correct bypass setting, but it isn't shown to be used on my model year, as where the PL14612 has the incorrect bypass setting but it is shown to be compatible with my car.

What are the major differences between the two filters other than the bypass setting and which one should I use on my car? I want to make sure I am using the correct one, and keeping the engine safe at the same time.

Thanks for the help in advance, I am just trying to learn as I go with these type of things for my car.
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the 14460 is a larger diameter filter than the 14612 and will not fit on many 06+ cars...the sti and wrx due to interference with the exhaust

get your filter at the dealer if you are in doubt
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Old 03-11-2011, 02:07 PM   #3
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the 14460 is a larger diameter filter than the 14612 and will not fit on many 06+ cars...the sti and wrx due to interference with the exhaust

get your filter at the dealer if you are in doubt
That's what I was thinking about doing, the only reason I ask is because I stopped by Advance Auto the other day and they have Valvoline Durablend on sale with a Pureone filter, so I picked up the filters that are recommended by Purolator. Basically I am just asking because it seems like a lot of people don't like the new oil filters made my Honeywell/Fram.
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Old 03-11-2011, 02:34 PM   #4
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That's what I was thinking about doing, the only reason I ask is because I stopped by Advance Auto the other day and they have Valvoline Durablend on sale with a Pureone filter, so I picked up the filters that are recommended by Purolator. Basically I am just asking because it seems like a lot of people don't like the new oil filters made my Honeywell/Fram.
if you change the oil regularly....and even at 5k miles.....just about any filter will be ok......

and that durablend oil is GREAT oil for the price
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if you change the oil regularly....and even at 5k miles.....just about any filter will be ok......

and that durablend oil is GREAT oil for the price
Thanks for the heads up Uncle Scotty, I saw the ad a few days ago and I was thinking it was time to change from Subaru factory oil to something different that was a little cheaper. And now that Autozone also has 5 qts on sale for $20 I think I am going to pick up some more.

So would the PL14612 be an ok filter to use since I am going to be following the 3,750 mi OCI or should I pick up a few of the blue OEM ones?

Thanks for the help so far!
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Old 09-05-2011, 11:34 AM   #6
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I am too contemplating between the two for an 04 wrx. I picked up a 14612 as per purolator. The Relief Valve psi is 14-18. From my understanding OEM filter has a 23psi BPV. The PL14460 has a relief of 20-25 psi..closer to oem. The only difference is the 14460 is a bit larger in diameter more like the oem size as the 14612 is tiny in diameter. Anyone use a 14460 on wrx/sti? Sorry not meaning to hijack...
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I am too contemplating between the two for an 04 wrx. I picked up a 14612 as per purolator. The Relief Valve psi is 14-18. From my understanding OEM filter has a 23psi BPV. The PL14460 has a relief of 20-25 psi..closer to oem. The only difference is the 14460 is a bit larger in diameter more like the oem size as the 14612 is tiny in diameter. Anyone use a 14460 on wrx/sti? Sorry not meaning to hijack...
for your 04 you will use the 14460 as it is the best one to use

the 2.5 has a different exhaust that wont let the larger 14460 filter to be used


purolator made the 14460 specifically for the subaru market which is why it has the proper by-pass valve operating pressure

there is no reason not to use it
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Old 09-05-2011, 12:15 PM   #8
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I will prob just run the (3) 14612 i purchased for my break in. then switch over to the 14460. thx uncle scotty
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Old 09-05-2011, 01:04 PM   #9
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I will prob just run the (3) 14612 i purchased for my break in. then switch over to the 14460. thx uncle scotty
of the 14460 fits use it...if not....dont

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Old 09-05-2011, 01:20 PM   #10
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Anyone ever try the 14610? It's the same as the OEM filter but just about an inch deeper. I have been running it on my 2010 WRX for 10K miles now.
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Old 09-10-2011, 06:30 PM   #11
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I did some more research and found that the 14612 is for the 2.5L engines. It has a Bypass Valve variance pressure of approx 18psi and has an anti drain back valve.

The 14610 is identical to the 14612 except it is about an inch longer. I currently run this filter in my 2010 WRX with no problems.

The 14460 is for the 2.0L engines and has a BPV variance pressure of approx 23psi and does NOT have an anti drain back valve.


The correct filter for 2.5L engines is the PL14612, not the PL14460. Our engines flow so much oil because it is helping cool down the turbo bearings and keeping them well lubricated. With the amount of oil flowing the filters with 23psi BPV and 18psi BPV are still going to be bypassing the filter under hard acceleration. However, not all oil bypasses the filter, just some of it. So you will get adequate filtering regardless if you chose to run the PL14460, PL14612, or PL14610.

Hope this clears up some confusion.

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Old 09-10-2011, 09:06 PM   #12
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I was never confused....
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Old 09-10-2011, 09:13 PM   #13
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No, you were just opinionated and your posts made it seem that every Subaru should be using the PL14460. My last post was for the OP.
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Old 09-10-2011, 09:40 PM   #14
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No, you were just opinionated and your posts made it seem that every Subaru should be using the PL14460. My last post was for the OP.
Wait, what? How could anything he said be taken as anything BUT helpful advice from seemingly personal experience and/or research. Nothing he said sounded in any way, shape or form opinionated or suggestive of using ONLY those products mentioned. Are we reading the same thing or no?
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if you change the oil regularly....and even at 5k miles.....just about any filter will be ok......

"taz" - I'm on my phone or else I would have included this in BOLD for you to read
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Sorry, you guys are right. I confused this thread with another one. My apologies. Perhaps I was the confused one....
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The 14610 is identical to the 14612 except it is about an inch longer. I currently run this filter in my 2010 WRX with no problems.
so would the 1 inch larger 14610 allow for longer oil change intervals?
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so would the 1 inch larger 14610 allow for longer oil change intervals?

What does your UOA tell you?
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What does your UOA tell you?
ive never used the pl14612, only the pl14610 ... so i dont know how to answer that. im assuming it should get me an extra 1000-2000 miles ...
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so would the 1 inch larger 14610 allow for longer oil change intervals?

I could not answer that for you. I would think it depends more on the oil that is being used. I'm just about efficiency. Larger filter will filter more in the same time span. I still change the oil in my 2010 WRX at 3750miles using Rotella T6. I could probably get 5000 out of it but never tried.
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My last 6k labs say 612 filter, RoT 5/40 should last me 8k easily.

It would be idiotic for me to suggest this is a general guideline or 1:1 applicable to anyone else. Maybe your intake and filter leak and you live on a dry lake bed and take comfort in assumption. 8k later your oil is like the modeling clay scene from Ghost. Not that you would even ever know.

Maybe the bigger same filter can go forever in your car (10+), with good oil, under well managed conditions. Its not something you can be told simply. Everything is different beyond whatever the latest safety zone is and even that (low oil) trips up some.

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So I have to order new oil filters an I'm not sure if I should just order another 6pack of the blue ones from fredbeans. I'm just worried about the difference in bpv pressures.
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my uoa tells me ...



oil = rotella 5w-40
oil filter = purolator pureone pl14610 (extended length)
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oil = rotella 5w-40
oil filter = purolator pureone pl14610 (extended length)
What air filter are you using?
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some of us dont want the filter sticking down another inch
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