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Old 08-31-2002, 02:34 AM   #1
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Default Winter Tires

I live in the mountains just outside of denver. This last winter my Wife almost totaled our 02 Forrester in an accident, because she could not stop in the deep snow. I have just purchased my new 02 WRX, and dont want the same thing to happen to it.

I have read time and time again that the RE-92s suck as tires go, so I am looking for any recomendations as to a good place to get a set of tires for this winter? Also what do most people normally put on their cars for Winter, do you stud all weather tires, or go with full snows?

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Old 08-31-2002, 03:48 AM   #2
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I use the 92's as my winter tire and I think they work just fine.

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Old 08-31-2002, 10:20 AM   #3
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the 92s are decent snow tires.... but if you live an area that is more frequent with heavy snows or snow where there is often more than 1" standing on the ground (only happened twice last year in the city! - i was out of town for both) - go to a much softer silicon based tire like a michilin alpin or a blizzak or something along those lines. While your dry weather performance and handling will blow for the most part, the wet traction and snow traction far exceeds that of any all season tire.

In addition to that you can get a BETTER all season tire and get them siped which will help under icy conditions but do little for you in the snow.

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Old 08-31-2002, 11:48 AM   #4
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I could spin the RE-92s on a flat road in 3rd gear (granted, they had a little wear). On mountain roads, they would be dangerous. They are -not- a winter tire.

IMO, there are two kinds of a winter tire- a non-studded tire that is somewhat well behaved on dry pavement, or an all out aggressive and studded snow tire. I ran non-studded Michelin Arctic Alpins (stock size) last winter (including placing first in an ice race series), and I was very pleased with how they worked. Bear in mind, I live in the city near a lot of flat roads and snowplows.

If you live in the mountains or away from roads that are plowed quickly, you should probably think of a serious tire like the Nokian Hakka 10 with studs. Any accidents with that tire will most likely be due to driver error, but they will wear fast and make a lot of noise (and not perform very well on dry pavement).

I hear The Tire Source in Boulder has the Hakkas- most anybody can get the Arctic Alpins.
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Old 08-31-2002, 12:06 PM   #5
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The good tires are in order from least to most helpfull in icy situations

Michelin Artcit Alpin
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....l=Arctic-Alpin

Blizzak ws, I think the 50 series
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=Blizzak+WS-50

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I know they sell these at Volvo stealerships, but can be found for substantially less money than the others. You can get these at

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Nokian Hakka Q's (along with others) although I didnt' see them on their website, they're the nonstudded ice tires.
http://www.nokiantyres.com/index_en.html

Try hakka 1's if you want studded

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Old 08-31-2002, 01:23 PM   #6
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I also found that the Blizzak snow tires come in Size:195/55-16
for $98. This is the only manufacturer (that I've found) that'll make a 195 in a 16" rim. (so you don't slide as much)

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Old 09-01-2002, 03:11 AM   #7
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Default full studded snows are cheap insurance

If you are going to be driving the I-70 segment, up toward the evergreen parkway or any of the other canyon roads, I would strongly suggest a full set of studded snows. In 35 years of driving they have saved me a lot of grief on several occasions. I consider them cheap insurance.

The Cooper weather master s/t snow tire is a true snow tire, and is used by the rally cross guys because it has a stronger sidewall than most other snows. Its dry pavement performance (w/o studs) is slighly worse than the RE-92's, but tolerable. Its no race tire, but cheap, durable, and has a good honest snow tread for that one storm a year when nobody but you can move.

Full studs are manditory in my book for several of the foothills road sections. I've commuted to Colorado springs from Denver, lived up in coal creek canyon and had jobs where I had to drive both H 93, and Indiana St. up near Rockyflats. I've never been unable to get where I wanted to go, including seveal blizzards where snow depths were measured in feet.

In the winter, I run full studded snows on my 88 suby wagon, and the RE-92's until the snow flies on the wrx. Once we get snow I put the continential snows un-studded on the WRX. In really bad weather I drive only the wagon. This year I will be putting a set of snows on the WRX, but will still only drive it when conditions are mild, unless I go with studs on it. (if you stud the Continential you can't use them for rallycross no studs allowed )

A couple of years ago I was going into work at midnight following a lady up on Indiana st, at C 128 . She was only going about 15 mph but still lost it on the glare ice when we made the turn from C128 onto Mc Caslin Blvd. (the road was so slick you couldn't stand up when you got out of the car)

She stopped broadside on a down hill section of glare ice when her tires rode up on the outside snow build up of the turn. I easily stopped with the full studded snow tires a couple car lengths from her, without the studs I would have centerpunched her driverside door.

I plan on only 1 1/2 or 2 snow seasons on the snow tires as they wear quicker than regular tires.

It has the added intangible benefit of makeing for much more relaxed driveing when everyone else is white knuckle driving. ( you can also out accelerate just about anyone which makes lane changes much easier.)

Larry

edit to correct tire company, and tire model names.

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Old 09-01-2002, 12:25 PM   #8
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I put about 8K miles on my blizzak LM-22s last winter. Plenty of snowy mornings and nights during my Divide-Colorado Springs commute and they worked really well. They are about the same (better?) than RE92s in the dry and good in snow and ice.

I took my car out for a drive in 6-7 inches of fresh powder on some forest roads up here and had a blast! Did one ice autocross and felt like they were okay on ice, but there are better tires for icy condiitions I imagine.

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