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Old 07-16-2012, 02:38 PM   #1
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Sup guys..I am getting new wheels soon for my wrx and I'd like your guys' opinion on which tires best suit my need:

-Preferably under $150 each
-All Season, I don't plan or like to change wheels throughout the year
-I do have suspension and sway upgrades for canyon runs/spirited driving so it would be awesome if it's "semi-slick" in someway.

I don't know much about tires, and I see V12 evos are popular however they're summer tires so they're probably not a very good idea during winter...I do live in SO CAL so I don't get heavy rain or anything like that..but I can't say for my road trip destinations etc.

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PS: I will be running 18x8.5 +45...235/40/18 is what I've been suggested to use....sound about right? or wider
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:53 PM   #2
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check tirerack

I would suggest pilot sport a/s (better response), or potenza 970 a/s (better grip)

As for cost - you have to pay to play - in those sizes, you aren't going to find anything with top performance for the cost you mention
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:06 PM   #3
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Well there are quite a few from Tirerack, all season for around $150 ea..I am just not sure which is the best one for me.

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Old 07-16-2012, 06:07 PM   #4
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Why all season's when you're in SoCal? Do you go up to ski/snowboard resorts during the winter?
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Old 07-16-2012, 06:24 PM   #5
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Why all season's when you're in SoCal? Do you go up to ski/snowboard resorts during the winter?
what he said....
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if ya dont need as tires....dont buy them...they are a compromise all around

ya better off finding some used/beat/cheap wheels that ya can put decent winter tires on and have 2 sets
there are guys selling their used winter wheels/tires for cheap all the time, ya just gotta LOOK for them

ya not gonna find decent UHP AS tires for cheap and not in that size, either


and i had the v12 hankooks and hated them until i realized that they were mis catagorized as a 'performance' tire.....they are NOT...they ARE a decent touring tire...but they are WAY too soft to be any sort of performance tire
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:03 PM   #6
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Why all season's when you're in SoCal? Do you go up to ski/snowboard resorts during the winter?
Yes I do actually.


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what he said....

ya better off finding some used/beat/cheap wheels that ya can put decent winter tires on and have 2 sets
there are guys selling their used winter wheels/tires for cheap all the time, ya just gotta LOOK for them

ya not gonna find decent UHP AS tires for cheap and not in that size, either


and i had the v12 hankooks and hated them until i realized that they were mis catagorized as a 'performance' tire.....they are NOT...they ARE a decent touring tire...but they are WAY too soft to be any sort of performance tire
I guess that sounds fair price wise too, but how do I tell if they're slick or semi slick? From the rating?

The continental DW seems like a good deal, my brother also have those cheap Sumitomos HTR-III that I could use if they're any good...

What about the tire size for 18x8.5?

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Old 07-16-2012, 08:22 PM   #7
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Street performance tires are not slicks, or even close.

It's in the tread design and compound make-up.
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:41 PM   #8
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I'd love Rs3's but they're over my budget
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:02 PM   #9
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the Federal 595RS-R is a great inexpensive summer tire
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:29 AM   #10
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Will look into that, but how long will it last on the streets since its rated at like 140*

Also I'll assuming 235/40/18 is good? I am running that size on 18x8 right now..
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:31 PM   #11
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Yes I do actually.
I knew it! We're in the same situation - I'm running All-Season tires all year long as I go snowboarding during the winter, and I don't have storage space for an extra set of wheels and tires. I don't have any Auto-X/HPDE's planned in the near future either, so not much sense in having a dedicated set of summers for me.

With that said, I used to have Pirelli PZero Nero M+S. Now I'm running Continental DWS. I have zero complaints on either tires.

The DWS in 245/40/18 (Stock STi size?) is $161 per tire at tirerack. Sure, it's above your $150, but perhaps the UTQG rating of 540AA will translate to a very long tread life?

(I can't seem to find it in 235/40/18 in tire rack)

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Old 07-20-2012, 09:33 AM   #12
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^+1 on the Continental ExtremeContact DWS tires.

Around 2 lbs lighter per tire than the Michelin Pilot A/S+ & less expensive as well, super quiet on the highway, 50,000 mile warranty (1 yr "uniformity" warranty), and they have the best snow rating than any other ultra-high performance A/S tire sold.

Mine will be installed next week.


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Old 07-20-2012, 10:03 AM   #13
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If I had to run only one tire year round here in Ohio, it would be the Nokian WR. No other all-season is in its league with regard to winter traction. In SoCal it is probably overkill though...
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:20 AM   #14
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If I had to run only one tire year round here in Ohio, it would be the Nokian WR. No other all-season is in its league with regard to winter traction. In SoCal it is probably overkill though...
Maybe that's why I've never heard of it.
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If I had to run only one tire year round here in Ohio, it would be the Nokian WR. No other all-season is in its league with regard to winter traction. In SoCal it is probably overkill though...
I'm about to put a set of WR's on my STI, but the motivo does seem tempting...

Is anyone running motivo?
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In socal and looking for the same thing as myth21, OP..... I believe I almost bought his tires and wheels about a year and a half ago. I'm in to see the best summer tire for about 150$. Had the sumituroto htz II and I have alot of camber wear and they were not the best by any means but they were budget tires. You get what u pay for
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w0w...everybody looking for that magic tire that lasts forever, can be used in any weather and is almost free

the unicorn tire

when ya find them...post them up....i want to see pics and video of the capture or the corpse
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w0w...everybody looking for that magic tire that lasts forever, can be used in any weather and is almost free

the unicorn tire

when ya find them...post them up....i want to see pics and video of the capture or the corpse
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Sorry Scotty. I believe what we are looking for is a great summer tire that is ok in the 10+ days of rain and at least driveable in the 3 days we hit up the snow and skii resorts. If you add in good grip and good durrability I believe that's what ever southern Californian wants. Sorry for being blessed for this beautiful weather.
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Sorry Scotty. I believe what we are looking for is a great summer tire that is ok in the 10+ days of rain and at least driveable in the 3 days we hit up the snow and skii resorts. If you add in good grip and good durrability I believe that's what ever southern Californian wants. Sorry for being blessed for this beautiful weather.
no, you don't get it. thats what EVERYONE wants, and it has NOTHING to do with your weather.

summer tires can't handle cold temps, all seasons suck if you want a high performing summer tire (thats why they are called NO seasons, they are OK at everything, but not great at anything). Most summer tires can handle rain just fine, if you know which ones to pick and how to drive them.
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Sorry Scotty. I believe what we are looking for is a great summer tire that is ok in the 10+ days of rain and at least driveable in the 3 days we hit up the snow and skii resorts. If you add in good grip and good durrability I believe that's what ever southern Californian wants. Sorry for being blessed for this beautiful weather.
RENT a car to go skiing and forget the AS tires

yeah....this is the right and only answer, really

buy a **** tire so you can go skiing a couple times a season???

madness.....sheer, total MADNESS
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RENT a car to go skiing and forget the AS tires

yeah....this is the right and only answer, really

buy a **** tire so you can go skiing a couple times a season???

madness.....sheer, total MADNESS
If you are only going to drive in the snow 3times I don't understand the justification to get allseasons. All seasons still suck in the snow. I swap snow tires on my car for winter but have driven in the snow on summer tires. It's not not they will make the car undrivable, you just have to be more carefull. The fact is you have an advantage driving an awd car which creates less need for a snow tire.
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If you are only going to drive in the snow 3times I don't understand the justification to get allseasons. All seasons still suck in the snow. I swap snow tires on my car for winter but have driven in the snow on summer tires. It's not not they will make the car undrivable, you just have to be more carefull. The fact is you have an advantage driving an awd car which creates less need for a snow tire.
This is SO far from the truth its unbelievable.

PLEASE do not offer your opinion when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
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This is SO far from the truth its unbelievable.

PLEASE do not offer your opinion when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Please elaborate.
There is constant snow on the roads 5 months of the year where I live. I understand that driving on summer tires on snow is a bad idea, but the few times I have done it my car was still manageable. And when I say awd create less of a need for a snow tire I am speaking purely of accelerating/not getting stuck. Don't think for a second that because you have awd it'll be great in the snow even on r-comps.

Far from the truth? Do you think that rwd and fwd are as good as awd in the snow?


But I guess since you said I have no idea what I talking about it must be true...

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Please elaborate.
There is constant snow on the roads 5 months of the year where I live. I understand that driving on summer tires on snow is a bad idea, but the few times I have done it my car was still manageable. And when I say awd create less of a need for a snow tire I am speaking purely of accelerating/not getting stuck. Don't think for a second that because you have awd it'll be great in the snow even on r-comps.

Far from the truth? Do you think that rwd and fwd are as good as awd in the snow?

But I guess since you said I have no idea what I talking about it must be true...
The fact your car has awd means NOtHING. Awd in the snow with summers is just as dangerous as fwd or rwd in the snow with summers.

Your logic seems to be "well the car moves so it must be ok". It ain't about moving in the snow, it's about turning and stopping.
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no, you don't get it. thats what EVERYONE wants, and it has NOTHING to do with your weather.

summer tires can't handle cold temps, all seasons suck if you want a high performing summer tire (thats why they are called NO seasons, they are OK at everything, but not great at anything). Most summer tires can handle rain just fine, if you know which ones to pick and how to drive them.
Sorry I don't know much about tires. Ok so then throw out the snow option. I can use a truck for that.

What is the best tire that is about 150 with decent life. A tire that is great in the summer and driveable cautiously in the rain? Are there any recommendations? I have spent my time reviewing the tires on Luke's sticky and with tire rack.
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