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Old 07-21-2012, 03:00 PM   #26
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It is just a lifted Impreza.
I'm not really sure what he's expecting.

It's not like the Impreza is known for driving poorly...
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:08 PM   #27
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Awesome commercial.
Nice looking car too.

Too bad it will have that CVT BS.
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:46 PM   #28
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Awesome commercial.
Nice looking car too.

Too bad it will have that CVT BS.

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Old 07-22-2012, 04:59 PM   #29
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Too bad it will have that CVT BS.
Do you go around complaining about how the automatic was an option on the WRX from 02-05?

I don't know why people whine about options they don't have to buy. Like every model Subaru sells with a 4 cylinder engine, the 5 or 6 speed manual is always available.

FWIW, I think the CVT is a vast improvement over the old automatics in terms of performance. They are a little hard to hold highway speeds at without cruise, IMO, but other than that, they're better in every way.
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:18 PM   #30
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They are better performance and efficiency wise, but one other way that they are beat by normal automatic transmissions is in aesthetics (for a car guy at least).

My experience with CVT's comes from Nissan and I'm sure Subaru's are a bit different, but the constant engine speed while the transmission does the accelerating instead unnerves me. The sound doesn't change, which makes it sound bad.

Imagine a child imitating a performance cars engine in 10 years when they all have CVT's. Not nearly as fun as the gear shifts of today...
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:45 PM   #31
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Subaru of New England just took delivery of two pre-production models

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

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Old 07-25-2012, 06:17 PM   #32
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Do you go around complaining about how the automatic was an option on the WRX from 02-05?

I don't know why people whine about options they don't have to buy. Like every model Subaru sells with a 4 cylinder engine, the 5 or 6 speed manual is always available.

FWIW, I think the CVT is a vast improvement over the old automatics in terms of performance. They are a little hard to hold highway speeds at without cruise, IMO, but other than that, they're better in every way.
Hi,

So does this mean that the XV will be available with a manual transmission in the US? I thought that this car would only be available with a CVT. I've been actively shopping this year, and that would put this car back on the list.
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:50 PM   #33
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Well this is good news that I had missed!

From Edmunds (sorry if it's already been said):

Based on the fully redesigned 2012 Subaru Impreza hatchback, the XV Crosstrek offers the same 2.0-liter boxer four-cylinder found in the Impreza, making 148 horsepower and 145 pound-feet of torque. All-wheel drive is standard, and the XV Crosstrek will offer a choice of a six-speed manual or continuously variable transmission (CVT). Subaru says a manual-equipped XV Crosstrek accelerates from zero to 60 mph in 10.5 seconds (10.7 for CVT models).
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:04 PM   #34
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They are better performance and efficiency wise, but one other way that they are beat by normal automatic transmissions is in aesthetics (for a car guy at least).

My experience with CVT's comes from Nissan and I'm sure Subaru's are a bit different, but the constant engine speed while the transmission does the accelerating instead unnerves me. The sound doesn't change, which makes it sound bad.

Imagine a child imitating a performance cars engine in 10 years when they all have CVT's. Not nearly as fun as the gear shifts of today...
It's really not THAT bad. If you continue laying on the gas it's kinda weird because you expect a shift. The feel is fun because it's like a constant spool.

Most kids I know or have known (family and working for the school district) that imitate car sounds are less interested in shifting gears (when they're younger) and more into seeing how long and how much louder they can make a continuous engine-revving sound. When they're older and more aware, then I notice they're more concerned with shifting gears.

Just my observation.

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Hi,

So does this mean that the XV will be available with a manual transmission in the US? I thought that this car would only be available with a CVT. I've been actively shopping this year, and that would put this car back on the list.
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/crosst...strek2013.html

Edit: You beat me to it, but Subaru.com states it's a 5-speed.



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Its expected to arrive August/September.
Based on the Impreza 5 door, it has the 148hp 2.0L Impreza engine with the 5 speed manual or CVT transmission with paddle shifters. Just like the Impreza Sport, the Crosstrek is available in 2 trim levels, Premium and Limited. The Crosstrek has 8.7" ground clearance, black side moldings, rocker panel, and wheel arch moldings, dark tinted privacy glass, and a slightly larger 15.9 gallon gas tank instead of the 14.5 gallon tank in the Imprezas. The grill, 17" alloys, front and rear bumpers are slightly different from the standard Impreza.

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Old 07-25-2012, 07:15 PM   #35
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Between the two sites, I think what you found makes more sense, seeing as the current Impreza drivetrain uses the 5 speed. It'd be a bit odd to use a 6 speed transmission for the XV if it really is basically a lifted/ruggedized Impreza.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:19 AM   #36
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So the paddle shifters would make the CVT go back and forth between preset ratios?

Does that mean you could program it so that you can change the amount of presets, meaning you could have an 18 speed paddle shifter?

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Old 07-26-2012, 11:32 AM   #37
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I saw one of these at a dealership in Silver Spring, MD last night. Very sharp car, and there was a lot of interest from folks who stopped in the dealership. I expect this will be a homerun for Subaru.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:18 PM   #38
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Subaru of New England just took delivery of two pre-production models

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

looks like the outback sport is back, and lifted a bit.

i'll wait till it is offered with the waist and roof wings before i say "i gotta get one!"
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:40 PM   #39
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Hi,

So does this mean that the XV will be available with a manual transmission in the US? I thought that this car would only be available with a CVT. I've been actively shopping this year, and that would put this car back on the list.
There was an EPA rating of 30MPG for the manual on the hwy (not good enough IMO) but that seems to indicate yes. I sure hope so. If Subaru knows their market, they know they sell Outback & OBS models with the manuals.

Looks like someone else beat me to it, but yes, thank goodness Subaru sticks to its roots.
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:52 PM   #40
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So does this mean that the XV will be available with a manual transmission in the US? I thought that this car would only be available with a CVT. I've been actively shopping this year, and that would put this car back on the list.
XV Premium = 5 spd (standard) or CVT (optional).
XV Limited = CVT (standard)
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:19 PM   #41
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The mighty replacement for the OBS. I think Subaru should consider a turbo version of this as well.
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:45 PM   #42
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^ or diesel
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I have been wanting to see diesel subies in the US for soo long. If I could get a diesel that performed as well as a stock wrx these days, I'd swap in an instant.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:04 AM   #44
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So the paddle shifters would make the CVT go back and forth between preset ratios?

Does that mean you could program it so that you can change the amount of presets, meaning you could have an 18 speed paddle shifter?

I suppose, but why would you want to?
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:14 PM   #45
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I have been wanting to see diesel subies in the US for soo long. If I could get a diesel that performed as well as a stock wrx these days, I'd swap in an instant.
Define "perform"

Diesel cars are not track monsters. Top end power isn't their forte.

But they have way more torque and will get a lot better gas mileage. Makes for a pretty pleasant commuter car.
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:30 PM   #46
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This looks exactly like the old forester. I personally don't see this as an advantage over a 2.5 hatch. Maybe a little easier to get in to if you have kids or for people who have trouble getting in to lower cars. I really don't see how this is different from the current forester though...
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:43 PM   #47
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No diesel, no sale.

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Old 07-29-2012, 01:44 PM   #48
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I do like that commercial, il be interested to see some crossteks on the road soon
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:44 PM   #49
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This looks exactly like the old forester. I personally don't see this as an advantage over a 2.5 hatch. Maybe a little easier to get in to if you have kids or for people who have trouble getting in to lower cars. I really don't see how this is different from the current forester though...
Which is it? Since old Forester and current Forester are quite different.

Advantage over a 2.5 hatch? Better mpg. 8.7in ground clearance. 20% more interior space.....want more?
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that deep color purple is sweet.
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