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Old 07-22-2012, 09:02 AM   #1
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Default Installed new head gaskets...now oil squirting from passenger side head.

I'm not sure what went wrong but after carefully torquing down all the head bolts properly and reinstalling the engine, I now have a leak / spray of oil from the top of the motor. It appears to be coming from the brand new head gasket.
I didn't buy cheap gaskets. I followed all TQ specs and procedures to the T.
This is not my first Subaru Engine install.

Does anyone have a good reason I have this engine oil leak???

Thank you in advance.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:28 AM   #2
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there are many reasons why this could occur. aside from a huge oil pressure issue which would probably cause other leaks, id say there was some debris that got inbetween the gasket/head/case. You will have to take it apart in any case so you tell us.
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Old 07-22-2012, 11:51 AM   #3
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Debris is definitely plausible, how about the flatness of the mating surfaces? Did you install the gasket backwards, thus causing a blockage in the oil route?
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Old 07-22-2012, 03:38 PM   #4
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Did you install the gasket backwards, thus causing a blockage in the oil route?
That's what I would check first in this case. Even with a blown headgasket they don't squirt oil, just weep from the bottom. Dont see why it would be worse than that with a new gasket and right torquing
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:29 PM   #5
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I hope it's not something as NEWBISH as putting a gasket on backwards.
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:31 PM   #6
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Everyone makes mistakes lol
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:39 PM   #7
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And...that's EXACTLY what I did. Now that I cleaned off all the oil I can see the gasket clearly on backwards. Yippie. Now I get to do a head gasket while the motor is in the car. I wasn't excited about that prospect.
Let this be a lesson. Don't do head-gaskets while on shrooms. No I'm kidding...I wasn't high...just stupid. Yikes.
Moderators please delete this thread due to shear embarrassment please.
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:44 PM   #8
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And...that's EXACTLY what I did. Now that I cleaned off all the oil I can see the gasket clearly on backwards. Yippie. Now I get to do a head gasket while the motor is in the car. I wasn't excited about that prospect.
Let this be a lesson. Don't do head-gaskets while on shrooms. No I'm kidding...I wasn't high...just stupid. Yikes.
Moderators please delete this thread due to shear embarrassment please.
Don't worry man. I rebuilt my phase 1 dohc forester without pulling the engine. That's as tight as a Subaru can get
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Old 07-22-2012, 07:24 PM   #9
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Debris is definitely plausible, how about the flatness of the mating surfaces? Did you install the gasket backwards, thus causing a blockage in the oil route?
I'd bet it'd b this
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Old 07-22-2012, 07:56 PM   #10
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Any suggestions on how to get off the crank pulley?
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Old 07-22-2012, 08:11 PM   #11
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Tranny in 5th. Friend on brake pedal as hard as possible. Take a breaker bar and cheater pipe and break that bolt free
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Old 07-22-2012, 11:14 PM   #12
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I'm going to advise against doing headgaskets with the engine in the car. I tried... and failed miserably. Just my $0.02.
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Old 07-22-2012, 11:17 PM   #13
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I'm going to advise against doing headgaskets with the engine in the car. I tried... and failed miserably. Just my $0.02.
Really? I've done it several times. With the right tools its not hard at all. What problems did you have?
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Old 07-23-2012, 12:38 AM   #14
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It's possible, just a pain in the ass. Loosening the engine mounts and canting the engine is the way to go. The passenger side is doable w/o messing w/the engine mounts.

Also, since you're been running it (for just a tad) with no oil pressure in that head, make sure you pre-lube it up plenty.
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:51 AM   #15
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Really? I've done it several times. With the right tools its not hard at all. What problems did you have?
I dunno, I probably just wasn't experienced enough. Doing sway bars and bushings probably wasn't enough experience to basically take apart my engine
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:27 AM   #16
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Well...I'm pulling it. J.Gibbs thanks for the suggestion. I had already tried that technique before I posted asking for suggestions. The crank pulley won't come off. I was overpowering the trans and brakes with my breaker bar. BUMMER.
The lesson learned here: Haste Makes Waste. Take a moment and breathe. Otherwise you'll be pulling your engine again.
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Old 07-23-2012, 05:32 PM   #17
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Well...I'm pulling it. J.Gibbs thanks for the suggestion. I had already tried that technique before I posted asking for suggestions. The crank pulley won't come off. I was overpowering the trans and brakes with my breaker bar. BUMMER.
The lesson learned here: Haste Makes Waste. Take a moment and breathe. Otherwise you'll be pulling your engine again.
For the pulley, why not use the breaker bar/starter bump method?
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:04 PM   #18
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For the pulley, why not use the breaker bar/starter bump method?
I have the head gasket turned around and installed properly and the engine is back in the car with the trans bolted up. Now just have to assemble the acc. and intake....and starter her.
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Kudos to you for undertaking a challenging project, screwing it up, posting, fixing, and repairing
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:14 AM   #20
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No offense to anyone here but Subaru's are like the 3 year old and under toy at McDonald's compared to engine swaps I'm accustomed to: Twin sequential rotarys and LSX into my FD. I recently did the clutch on my Evo on the garage floor with the car jacked up 18". A Subaru engine swap is easy compared to an Evo clutch. (Don't offer to do one for a friend)
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:14 AM   #21
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...and yet I STILL managed to mess it up. Go figure.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:49 PM   #22
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You talking about the first time or did something go wrong again?

When I rebuilt my ej205 I installed both headgaskets backwards but caught the mistake before it got off the engine stand. Being super tired and stressed out can really make you screw things up.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:05 PM   #23
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The first time. Everything is working now...except the high idle. Hmmm. I reinstalled the intake manifold gasket and did a good job tightening it down. Could the idle control valve go wack after only a couple of weeks? Where are the common places to see a leak in the intake?
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:02 PM   #24
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How high is high. Don't kick yourself over the backward gasket. If you put the heads on backwards .....
Check all your vacuum lines. Common ones left off are the brake booster and pcv valve hoses. Your intake gaskets should be good.
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:25 PM   #25
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It was around 3,000 rpm and then would throw a P1370 code. Low ICV signal. My battery was shot so I just went and got another one. Hooked it up and the idle is high, 1500, but no CEL. I think that nipped it. I'm glad I didn't start cleaning the idle control valve.
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