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Old 07-22-2012, 12:51 PM   #1
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Event: dyno pull
Location: Old Highway 85 senoia GA (a common filming location for the tv show "Walking Dead")
Ambient Temp: 75*
Elevation: 300'
Conditions: Night, 60% humidity
Tires: 225/45/17 Dunlops

Car: 2002 WRX Wagon AKA: The Faggin Wagon
Tuner: Myself/Pullz-On Tuning
Dyno Info: Airboy
Transmission: 2004 STi 6spd
Gear: 4th
Peak HP at RPM:319@6500
Peak Torque at RPM:290@4700
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: ehh... 180ish?
Target Boost: 22.5psi
Target AFR: 11.2-11.5
Fuel: 93oct
Engine/Power Modifications:stock internal ej205 with ~40k miles
ARP headstuds
Killer B oil pick up
Killer B Oil windage tray
04 STi oil cooler
06 STI oil pan
09 STI 11mm oil pump
Perrin Lightweight Crank pulley
Grimmspeed PnP TGV deletes ceramic coated
Godspeed turbo inlet
Gimmick Motorsports fmic
Gimmick Motorsports aluminum radiator
Group S 4-1 uel header (wrapped)
Grimmspeed ceramic coated up pipe
Perrin MBC
BPM catless 3" tbe (dp wrapped)
MAPerformance ball bearing 20g (td06 housing, 8cm hotside, 2.4" inlet)
Agency Power rear pitch mount
Driveline Modifications: ACT clutch
Suspension Modifications: Perrin DLS and SLS
Godspeed coilovers
2004 STi hubs
2004 STi Brembos (front and rear)
Other Modifications: Loose nut behind the wheel

The car was an overly aggressive Stg2 car that experienced a failed bearing (fully expected, especially at 171k miles). I spent a bit over a year putting this setup together and in February I finally drove it again. Since February various components have been changed or added and I’ve constantly been tuning/tweaking as I drive it every day (over 20k miles since the middle of February!). I haven’t really had a chance to put up a thread since I’ve been so busy with customers cars….
Originally I tuned the car via MAF/draw thru, but out of boredom, one day I decided to try out the speed density, Group N based “Carberry “rom and I absolutely love it! The car is setup for hybrid boost control, but currently It only uses the mbc since tuning for PTFB is super easy with this rom. I’m taking advantage of several features this rom has to offer: CEL flash upon knock, map switching, ant-lag, and aggressive launch control (working on getting the NLTS to function). The LC is phenomenal and builds a full 22psi quickly. The ALS and map switching are handled by the defroster button. When its pressed, the secondary map is active which offers an extra degree of timing, slightly leaner AFR and activates ALS (provided all other parameters are met). I was getting a bit of knock randomly in 5th/6th gear at WOT on the highway due to the increased load and inability to tune for the slight increase in manifold pressure courtesy of the factory MAP sensor. Rather than reduce timing across the board, I decided to use the map switching feature instead. A new MAP sensor will be ordered soon.

After driving my dad’s small 16g car with 5spd for a year, this turbo felt a little laggy when I first got the car up and going. At that point it was plagued with exhaust leak after exhaust leak and full spool was 500rpm later than it is now. I’m hitting a full 22psi by 4100 rpm and then maxing out the map sensor for a couple hundred rpm before it stabilizes at 22.5psi for the remainder of the pull. The turbo is begging to put out another 2psi and once again, the map sensor will be ordered soon…. Originally I bought the turbo for a 2.5 hybrid setup, but I passed up the hybrid in favor of 6spd swap, Brembos and BBS’s . Plus I got a good deal on a young (20k miles) EJ205.

Along with half a dozen long distance road trips, the car gets abused every day, even in 95* ambient temps, with pulls out to 120, 130 and even 150 on a couple of occasions. It’s had its fun with several 911’s, Cobras, and countless Camaros in the last six months. It’s been on a couple mountain runs and this fall, it should be making a few trips to the track. I plan on adding water/meth and cranking up the boost by spring, so we’ll see what happens…

Here's the airboy dyno:


Here's the VD dyno with a lower correction factor (i find it more accurate than the standard dyno jet CF):


The VD dyno with standard dyno jet CF for comparison purposes:


Boost plot and injector duty cycle:


The car itself:






A quick thank you to Josh at Import Image for constantly supplying me with “gotta have it” bits and pieces and fastblueufo for the random help with various tuning issues, especially with the Carberry rom.
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:23 PM   #2
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This post is of great interest too me.
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:12 PM   #3
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lol Why is that?
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:19 PM   #4
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Wagon with a 205 on SD, 6 speed, and a 20g. This is/was my plan plus some E85.

Why the headstuds and no pistons/rods?
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:30 PM   #5
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I wanna push to 205 on factory internals as far as I can. I may be running 26-28psi before its over with. Time will tell.
The headstuds vs factory headbolts as far as cost goes, isn't that great. Or wasn't when I bought them. ARP's prices have gone up a good bit since....
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Old 07-22-2012, 06:57 PM   #6
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you'll ruin a rod bolt first.

I like it
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Old 07-22-2012, 08:31 PM   #7
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Really nice and something you don't see everyday. Cool build
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Old 07-22-2012, 08:55 PM   #8
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Sweet. I can't comment on pump gas, but my 205 with 170k+ miles has survived, quite well I might add, at 30 psig and 365whp. That is on E85 though. I don't think it would have done that on pump. If you want to push it, go race gas or E85...
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:16 PM   #9
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you'll ruin a rod bolt first.

I like it
This is what I expect to fail. I've seen a few at 26psi on 20g or equivalent snap a rod bolt so this is the expected weak link since there's virtually no knock to threaten ringlands at the moment.
And thanX!

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Really nice and something you don't see everyday. Cool build
ThanX! it a fun street car- nothing more. Some call it a sleeper, but if your heard it idle with the throttle kick/rotational idle or seen the 2' flame from the LC or ALS, the term "sleep" no longer applies. lol

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Sweet. I can't comment on pump gas, but my 205 with 170k+ miles has survived, quite well I might add, at 30 psig and 365whp. That is on E85 though. I don't think it would have done that on pump. If you want to push it, go race gas or E85...
E85 is to hard to find and averaging well over 500 miles a week doesn't make it easier. Plus I need more injector... I'm gonna do water/meth and see where things end up.

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Old 07-26-2012, 01:37 AM   #10
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Bump for a good friend!!! Really clean and a fast wagon!!!!!!
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Old 07-26-2012, 01:19 PM   #11
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Those are some really respectable numbers, man. Great lookin' wagon too!
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:43 PM   #12
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Bump for a good friend!!! Really clean and a fast wagon!!!!!!
ThanX man! I need to meet up with you and check out the car with the new wheels. Maybe we'll go for a ride afterwards

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Those are some really respectable numbers, man. Great lookin' wagon too!
ThanX! Its a simple setup that's fun to goof off in.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:36 AM   #13
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nice. looks good.

Can not wait to see the water injection
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Old 07-29-2012, 02:40 AM   #14
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Wagon with a 205 on SD, 6 speed, and a 20g. This is/was my plan plus some E85.

Why the headstuds and no pistons/rods?
First of, nice WGN OP and nice work.

Zee Biker
You wont have to wait long - my TD06 FP20G is going on tomorrow and will be on E, should have a semi finished tune on there by mid week
2003 Wagon 2.0 - target 22 psi until the rest of my stuff arrives. Hoping for >350
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:18 PM   #15
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Did you buy the MAP turbo recently, or is this one of the 20G's MAP sold a year or two ago?

Looks like a fun ride!
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:42 PM   #16
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First of, nice WGN OP and nice work.

Zee Biker
You wont have to wait long - my TD06 FP20G is going on tomorrow and will be on E, should have a semi finished tune on there by mid week
2003 Wagon 2.0 - target 22 psi until the rest of my stuff arrives. Hoping for >350
You shouldn't have any issues. Why only 22psi though? Factory map sensor? lol I'm itching to turn it up to 24psi...

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Did you buy the MAP turbo recently, or is this one of the 20G's MAP sold a year or two ago?

Looks like a fun ride!
I bought it probably a year ago. I got one of the first ones. The've kinda scrapped them and moved on. Nobody really appreciated them and took advantage of the great turbo/price: td06 20g ball bearing 2.4" inlet billet wheel for $1300 ish. I got mine for a steal @ $1k with ceramic coating, but that was an introductory offer...

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Old 07-29-2012, 02:20 PM   #17
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Yeah I hear you on that. Im a tech for Dave Brown at performance auto solutions. We had a few of them and they always make amazing power.

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Old 07-30-2012, 01:59 PM   #18
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I need a 2.5 block to show what its capable of... One day I'll grow up and fork up the money for one. Until then, "long live the 205!!" lol

On a side note, everybody keeps asking me if its fast. I really don't know what to say as I think its quick/decent but not fast... I use the word "fun."
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22 psi, waiting on new heads and $$ for a bottom end, Ill probably push it to 24 psi, I always start of conservative ;-)
I finished install this A.M. ran it on a base map, goes real good, very smooth delivery
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First of, nice WGN OP and nice work.

Zee Biker
You wont have to wait long - my TD06 FP20G is going on tomorrow and will be on E, should have a semi finished tune on there by mid week
2003 Wagon 2.0 - target 22 psi until the rest of my stuff arrives. Hoping for >350
Will that be IWG or EWG? Also, what kind of intercooler setup? I'll be waiting for your results, as your massive visibility with your previous turbos have been GREAT!
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22 psi, waiting on new heads and $$ for a bottom end, Ill probably push it to 24 psi, I always start of conservative ;-)
I finished install this A.M. ran it on a base map, goes real good, very smooth delivery
What is the motor future of your car?!
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I need a 2.5 block to show what its capable of... One day I'll grow up and fork up the money for one. Until then, "long live the 205!!" lol

On a side note, everybody keeps asking me if its fast. I really don't know what to say as I think its quick/decent but not fast... I use the word "fun."
2.5 block sounds lame, but I suppose I'm just jealous .

Really wish this thing had an EWG, EL or TMIC to match my ideas, but that'll leave me room to top this!
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:08 PM   #21
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Will that be IWG or EWG? Also, what kind of intercooler setup? I'll be waiting for your results, as your massive visibility with your previous turbos have been GREAT!

What is the motor future of your car?!

2.5 block sounds lame, but I suppose I'm just jealous .

Really wish this thing had an EWG, EL or TMIC to match my ideas, but that'll leave me room to top this!
IWG - I run a HELIX TMIC - ran the first rev into work, stock intake is restricting things - hit 294g/s 4.8V at 20 psi up top(100 degs out with air con on ;-) ) I have a KSTECH big MAF to throw on in a month or so, its very zippy, pulls smooth.
Fuel 11:8.1 on E, timing at 16*-18*-24* full boost around 4250 rpm.

Future motor is forged 2.0, built heads, nothing too crazy.
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IWG - I run a HELIX TMIC - ran the first rev into work, stock intake is restricting things - hit 294g/s 4.8V at 20 psi up top(100 degs out with air con on ;-) ) I have a KSTECH big MAF to throw on in a month or so, its very zippy, pulls smooth.
Fuel 11:8.1 on E, timing at 16*-18*-24* full boost around 4250 rpm.

Future motor is forged 2.0, built heads, nothing too crazy.
I wanna grill you on your own setup! Make your own thread so we can stop filling this thing up!

Thanks to Steve for proving a 205 will work with a TD06 20G!
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10-4 - OP great job, once more -
will be on hold, I got a decent tune on there this evening.. maxxing 300g/s and 4.88 v, thought job done then it dropped 30g/s and .4 MAFv with 1.5psi of boost gone, guess I am boost leak checking here in next couple days.

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Old 08-03-2012, 10:15 AM   #24
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ever get anywhere with this?
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:00 AM   #25
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Yeah man, I got her ripping real nice.. until my WG actuator failed, waiting on a new one to show up then will 'thread up'.
It was like a freaking slingshot
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