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Old 07-25-2012, 11:00 PM   #1
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What's everyone running for track tires? As of right now I've got a set of 255/40 star specs on my 2005 STi, but feel I need to take the jump up to something stickier. Do not really want to go to a full slick just yet. I've looked at the r888's, the RA-1's, the A048's( which they don't make in my size), and have seen mixed reviews on all. Any opinions and input are welcome.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:08 PM   #2
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The Hankook Ventus TD is the new DOT R-comp to have. Otherwise the R888/NT-01 is better than the ra1 or a048. There's also the BFG R1 which is pretty much a slick but has a couple grooves.
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Old 07-26-2012, 02:50 AM   #3
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What are they supposed to be compared to? For the price I could just run some Hoosiers. Or are they closer to a R888/RA-1? 100tw?
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Old 07-26-2012, 02:54 AM   #4
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Hoosiers are 40 tw. They are fragile on heavy cars like ours. I run lots of them but you need to treat them nice. The BFG r1 wears like iron and is a 40 tw as well.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:00 AM   #5
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So its a track day tire, or for someone on a budget that need their tires to last all season at the expense of outright grip.
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Old 07-26-2012, 07:52 AM   #6
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R888/RA-1/NT-01. I've used all three many times (255/40-17).

Initial dry grip: The R888 is the best. The RA-1 (shaved to 6/32) and NT-01 are about the same.

Consistency: The RA-1 is best. Stays consistent right down to showing cords. The R888 falls of a LOT after about 30-40 heat cycles, and the last 1/4 of it's tread life just sucks. The NT-01 falls in between. Definitely doesn't fall off as much as the R888, but doesn't stay quite as consistent as the RA-1.

In the Wet: Full tread RA-1 is incredible in the rain. The R888 does pretty well too, but can't handle as much water as the RA-1. The NT-01 sucks in anything more than a damp track.

That's my $.02

One tire I am interested in trying is the new Maxxis RC-1 that's supposed to be out in the fall. Semi-slick with a 100 UTQG. We'll see what the pricing is.

http://www.maxrev.net/site/index.php...blog&Itemid=54

That Hankook looks interesting, until I saw the price. $245 for the 255/40-17 is a bit steep. I can get NT-01's for at least $65 cheaper per tire.

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Old 07-26-2012, 08:04 AM   #7
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R888/RA-1/NT-01. I've used all three many times (255/40-17).

Initial dry grip: The R888 is the best. The RA-1 (shaved to 6/32) and NT-01 are about the same.

Consistency: The RA-1 is best. Stays consistent right down to showing cords. The R888 falls of a LOT after about 30-40 heat cycles, and the last 1/4 of it's tread life just sucks. The NT-01 falls in between. Definitely doesn't fall off as much as the R888, but doesn't stay quite as consistent as the RA-1.

In the Wet: Full tread RA-1 is incredible in the rain. The R888 does pretty well too, but can't handle as much water as the RA-1. The NT-01 sucks in anything more than a damp track.

That's my $.02

One tire I am interested in trying is the new Maxxis RC-1 that's supposed to be out in the fall. Semi-slick with a 100 UTQG.

http://www.maxrev.net/site/index.php...blog&Itemid=54
So If you had to pick one which would it be?
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If I HAD to pick one, it'd probably be the NT-01. Best bang for the buck IMO.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:40 AM   #9
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If I HAD to pick one, it'd probably be the NT-01. Best bang for the buck IMO.
Unless RA1s are on sale right?



I agree, for dry running, you can't really justify RA1s over NT-01s. But price aside, I'll take the Toyos every time.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:43 AM   #10
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After a quick glance at tire rack and discount tire. The RA-1's and the nt01's are the same price @ $197. Granted tire rack doesn't have free shipping.
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Can we move to slicks now - I am looking at trying to find the most reliable slicks for a decent price. $ Michelin $ seems to be the best but i have no experience with them and never journeyed away from Hoosiers. Thought.... (245-40-17) used for Time Attack.

Not a thread jack because its still tires.
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:36 AM   #12
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After a quick glance at tire rack and discount tire. The RA-1's and the nt01's are the same price @ $197. Granted tire rack doesn't have free shipping.
Wow, that's closer than it normally is. I might be inclined to say the extra $30 in shipping is worth it for the RA1s, given their ability in the wet.
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interested in toyo R1R and federal fz-201 reviews
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Old 07-26-2012, 01:24 PM   #14
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tiresdirect.net has the 255/40-17 RA-1 for $178.98 each (non-shaved). Shipping (for me to a business via FedEx) is $41.57.

http://www.tiresdirect.net/TOYO-Prox...R17-P2265.aspx
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Old 07-26-2012, 01:31 PM   #15
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I hated my R1R's but I almost think I got a bad set, Literally was sliding everywhere dang near drift status. Got a new set of RS3s and back to normal no suspension changes.
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Old 07-26-2012, 01:51 PM   #16
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tiresdirect.net has the 255/40-17 RA-1 for $178.98 each (non-shaved). Shipping (for me to a business via FedEx) is $41.57.

http://www.tiresdirect.net/TOYO-Prox...R17-P2265.aspx
Do you prefer these over the 888's


EDIT: just read your previous post again. NVM

I think i am ganna go with these

http://www.tiresdirect.net/TOYO-Prox...94W-P4455.aspx

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Old 07-26-2012, 02:15 PM   #17
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subscribed. looking into some track tires that don't give a about heat cycling.

currently rocking star specz
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Old 07-26-2012, 02:17 PM   #18
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Can we move to slicks now - I am looking at trying to find the most reliable slicks for a decent price. $ Michelin $ seems to be the best but i have no experience with them and never journeyed away from Hoosiers. Thought.... (245-40-17) used for Time Attack.

Not a thread jack because its still tires.
The fast time attack tire is the Hankook C91s although Continental/Hoosier has a new one that a bunch of teams are using. Depends on your classing though. The R888s are a good "mod" class tire. Usually only unlimited gets to use slicks, but it depends on the rules of what you are doing.

Also the R888 and NT01 are made out of the same rubber.
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Looks like I'm down to the RA-1's and the Ventus TD if I can find any marked down.
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tiresdirect.net has the 255/40-17 RA-1 for $178.98 each (non-shaved). Shipping (for me to a business via FedEx) is $41.57.

http://www.tiresdirect.net/TOYO-Prox...R17-P2265.aspx
Great site. I got the same size for $80/tire two years back...some kind of sale. Owner was an ex M3 guy.
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Great site. I got the same size for $80/tire two years back...some kind of sale. Owner was an ex M3 guy.
Yeah. They had 255/40-17 RA-1s on sale for like $135 a couple years ago. I bought 2 sets. Should have gotten more.
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any r1r users? i can get them for cheaper than a regular set of streets so...
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Also the R888 and NT01 are made out of the same rubber.
Ive always been told the RA-1 and NT-01 were the same. :shrug:

I wont waste the money on the R888s again though.

In my experience, NT-01s have been $20-30 cheaper per tire after you figure in the cost to shave an RA1 down to something that wont chunk. The Nittos are fast out of the box and dont need to be shaved to be that way.
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