Installing Perrin rotated kit need help with adapter pipe

[03clipsegts]

Does anyone have any pics of a perrin rotated kit using the adapter piece with a Perrin front mount. I cant get the pipes to fit right unless they are right infront of the throttle body and thats deff not gonna work lol. Any help would be great. thanks

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[03clipsegts]

anybody???

[STimo]

Adapter pipe?? U talkin about the recirc pipe for the BOV??

[03clipsegts]

No the short 5in piece that connects the front mount to the compressor side of the turbo.

[x99percent]

Are you using this piece?

[modaddict]

here was my adapter pipe

I had to spend and extra $100 at www.siliconeintakes.com to make it all fit up (plus the intake)

[Freon]

Here's my version:








I only ended up using two 2.5" 45 elbows from silicone intakes to adapt the FMIC to the turbo kit. I later bought a bunch of pipe to make my own CAI.

[PERRIN]

03clipsgts: Hey! I got your flaming e-mail this morning and it didn't have ANY contact information. Here was my reply in case you didn't get it:

Thank you for your purchase and your mail.

While there isn't much detail here, this was still forwarded to me to investigate. As the owner of the company I am anxious to help you reach a proper resolution to your problems with any of our products.

Please either forward me your daytime telephone number where I can call you, or a complete list of the situation including make of vehicle, the mods list, photos? etc anything to help me get you fixed up and satisfied.

Thanks again for choosing PERRIN!

Adam Taft
PERRIN Performance
3111 NE Shute Rd.
Hillsboro, OR 97124
503-693-1702 voice
503-693-1782 fax
www.perrinperformance.com



On Sep 14, 2007, at 8:31 AM, o3clipsegts wrote:

I have tried calling you guys several times about fitment problems iv been having with my intercooler adapter pipe. What i dont understand is why you guys couldnt just make the whole piece. I mean i paid 80 for a 4 inch piece aluminum tubing that fits like crap. Ofcouse so did everything else iv got off you guys. Thanks for taking the cheap way out and ripping people off. If i could do it again it would deff go ultimate racing all the way. Thanks for all the help.

I am STILL willing to help you! But you need to provide a way for me to get in contact with you. I checked all the VM here and we don't have any record of a call with a client on a similar complaint.

PLEASE let me know how I can help!

Adam T.
PERRIN Performance
adam@perrinperformance.com

[PERRIN]

03clipsegts: Thank you for the phone call. It was nice to speak to you! I look forward to getting the information from you that we need to help resolve your concerns with the installation. Again, I am out for the weekend, but plan to hear from you via e-mail over the weekend. I will try my best to check PM's and vm during that time.

Thanks again!

Adam

[AaronWRX]

Originally Posted by modaddict

here was my adapter pipe

I had to spend and extra $100 at www.siliconeintakes.com to make it all fit up (plus the intake)

OMG! Dude... wow. At first I laughed ^^ then I cried. jesus.

[hybooststi]

Originally Posted by modaddict

here was my adapter pipe

I had to spend and extra $100 at www.siliconeintakes.com to make it all fit up (plus the intake)

That looks hideous!!! im glad i went with Ultimate Racing 's kit. zero problems and proven by many! good luck with that ,you should have some shop fab you up a pipe so it looks cleaner,same to you eclipsegts!!! or just sell that junk and get a ur gt35r with a real garret turbo.

[03clipsegts]

Originally Posted by Perrin

03clipsegts: Thank you for the phone call. It was nice to speak to you! I look forward to getting the information from you that we need to help resolve your concerns with the installation. Again, I am out for the weekend, but plan to hear from you via e-mail over the weekend. I will try my best to check PM's and vm during that time.

Thanks again!

Adam

I hope so too but im very doubt full. There are so many posts on here about fitment issues with these kits. Im really thinking of just staying in the stock location. Maybe sbr35r or something. I honestly dont know what to do. Iv wasted thousands of dollars on Perrin products and everyone of them had fitment issues except for the fuel rails.

[PERRIN]

03eclipsegts: I am sorry you are upset. But you didn't buy everything at one time. I am really interested to find out more about the turbo that you are using with our up and down pipes. Each kit is tested to fit here before packaging. We have already let the community know about the issues in late december and early January involving some changes in mfring that were immediately changed. I just hope you are willing to work with us to solve the problem. We want you to get what you paid for. If it turns out you need to get a different turbo then at least we know where the problem was.

hybooststi: Please note that the client referenced above is NOT using a PERRIN FMIC. Thus he had to make changes to the kit to make it work with his FMIC kit. No criticism but it should not be taken as a certainty that if all PERRIN components were used that it wouldn't fit. I can post photos of my own STi and everything does fit, as have MANY other clients. Not ranting or pissing just trying to better explain that while a picture is worth a thousand words it may not still tell the whole story.

Thanks everyone!

Adam

[03clipsegts]

Originally Posted by Perrin

03eclipsegts: I am sorry you are upset. But you didn't buy everything at one time. I am really interested to find out more about the turbo that you are using with our up and down pipes. Each kit is tested to fit here before packaging. We have already let the community know about the issues in late december and early January involving some changes in mfring that were immediately changed. I just hope you are willing to work with us to solve the problem. We want you to get what you paid for. If it turns out you need to get a different turbo then at least we know where the problem was.

hybooststi: Please note that the client referenced above is NOT using a PERRIN FMIC. Thus he had to make changes to the kit to make it work with his FMIC kit. No criticism but it should not be taken as a certainty that if all PERRIN components were used that it wouldn't fit. I can post photos of my own STi and everything does fit, as have MANY other clients. Not ranting or pissing just trying to better explain that while a picture is worth a thousand words it may not still tell the whole story.

Thanks everyone!

Adam

I have a Garrett 3076 82ar turbo there should be no need for a diff turbo. Why would you guys modify the exhaust housing specially for your exhaust kit instead of just making the kit fit any t3 flange turbo.

[PERRIN]

Simply put it is our kit! We frequently make changes to lots of products to make them better etc. We sell it as a KIT not a sum of parts.

Jeff Perrin will be here shortly to better explain.

ALSO Please note I said SEND ME PHOTOS SHOWING WHAT YOU HAVE SO I CAN TRY TO HELP REGARDLESS OF WHAT TURBO!

Lets work to a resolution instead of trying to banter online. I WANT to help. Allow me to do so!

Adam

[STimo]

Originally Posted by Perrin

Please note that the client referenced above is NOT using a PERRIN FMIC. Thus he had to make changes to the kit to make it work with his FMIC kit. No criticism but it should not be taken as a certainty that if all PERRIN components were used that it wouldn't fit. I can post photos of my own STi and everything does fit, as have MANY other clients. Not ranting or pissing just trying to better explain that while a picture is worth a thousand words it may not still tell the whole story.

Thanks everyone!

Adam

Well, im using a perrin FMIC with the perrin rotated 30R kit and i had a professional shop working on trying to make the same adapter piece fit for hours (compressor side of turbo connecting to FMIc piping, ALL PERRIN) and in the end it just WOULD NOT fit.. I had to have the shop weld the piping straight to the comp. side of the turbo and fabricate aluminum tubing so it would fit properly.. Not only that, but they also worked on trying to install the recirc piping for the BOV and that wouldnt fit correctly either!! To top it off my DP hits the crossmember on hard right turns.. It's pretty sad that a production kit by such a big company doesnt even fit correctly.. If you want pics, it's on page #3 of the thread i made titled "harman motive 30R" or something like that.. I dont think it's right that the customer has to fork out extra money to make a kit fit that should have already fit correctly in the first place.. And this isnt even all of the problems i've had with the kit!!
The turbo inlet hose that is provided with the kit places the MAF housing too close to the turbo causing turbulance, and my car will stall when i clutch in above ~2K rpm half of the time.. Im now going to have to pay to get a custom intake made, as well as pay to get the car retuned so it runs correctly.. I've emailed my problems to perrin, they asked to see pics so i told them where all the pics are, and i NEVER got a response.. Honestly i've had no support from perrin, and IMO they should be offering to fix the problems for me at no charge since there shouldnt have been any problems in the first place..
I've already paid to have some of the problems fixed, but i'd like to see PERRIN step up for once and either replace my intake with their new cold air intake, pay to have Harman motive custom fab one up for me that works correctly, and also pay to have it retuned.. So far nothing..

[STIBungy]

Why dont you have Jeff give me a call since no one from Perrin ever gives me a return call.

03eclipsegts, you're best bet is to have a custom pipe made that connects the turbo to your existing fmic. That pic of modaddict's engine bay is pretty hideous looking with all the couplers like that.

Originally Posted by Perrin

Simply put it is our kit! We frequently make changes to lots of products to make them better etc. We sell it as a KIT not a sum of parts.

Jeff Perrin will be here shortly to better explain.

ALSO Please note I said SEND ME PHOTOS SHOWING WHAT YOU HAVE SO I CAN TRY TO HELP REGARDLESS OF WHAT TURBO!

Lets work to a resolution instead of trying to banter online. I WANT to help. Allow me to do so!

Adam

[03clipsegts]

Originally Posted by STIBungy

Why dont you have Jeff give me a call since no one from Perrin ever gives me a return call.

03eclipsegts, you're best bet is to have a custom pipe made that connects the turbo to your existing fmic. That pic of modaddict's engine bay is pretty hideous looking with all the couplers like that.

Thats pretty much what im thinking man.

[STimo]

Originally Posted by STIBungy

Why dont you have Jeff give me a call since no one from Perrin ever gives me a return call.

.. Same problem i've been having. They ask for pics and i gve them pics of ALL the problems i've had with the kit, and i never get a return email, no nothing.. I had to pay extra just to make the damn kit fit, and the recirc piping for the BOV WOULD NOT go on correctly so i had to ditch that and run my BOV 100% atmosphere.. Whatever tho, no big deal.. My big problem though is with the intake.. That POS intake that comes with the kit is HORRIBLE!! My tuner worked on it for a while and WOT is ok, but idling is rediculous.. My car will stall half of the time when i clutch in above 2K rpm unless i give it a little gas and keep the RPMS around 1K for a couple seconds.. I have to do this EVERYTIME i clutch in above 2K rpm, if i dont the car will stall and the power steering/brakes go out.. Honestly it's not safe at all and has almost caused me to rearend a person before.. I've been trying to get this resolved for a while now but PERRIN just doesnt wanna step up to the plate i guess.. All i want is an intake that functions correctly and a car the runs the way its' supposed to.. So far Perrin has not offered me anything, no support AT ALL.. all they have done is asked for pics, and when i gve them pics i get no response.. This is why i say, as well as most of the other people that have bought the perrin kit, that i wish i would have just gone with UR.. It costs more but i've probably forked out just as much as the dfference in price and my car still doesnt run correctly..

[03clipsegts]

Heres where im at I just cant see it fitting iv tried so many diff ways.

[03clipsegts]

The only way it will is when its directly in the way of the throttle body.

[PERRINJeff]

03clipsegts,
Good chatting with you via IM. I hope we got you rolling in the right direction. Parts will ship out to you Monday! To get you by try clocking the turbo down, and pulling the couplers out a little. This should help along with those pics i sent.

We are here Via Email, AIM, phone, or if you just walk in. I am not sure why you say we don't call you back. Sometimes we are busy, and it might be a day or so, but in no way are we as bad as you make it out to be.

STimo,
Idle with the intake is fine, if tuned properly, and with the right BOV. But we have had certain cars (time to time) that have strange issues, where there are tons of people with no issues.

Because of this (weather it be tuner related or something strange with the car) we offered the blow thru setup. This eliminates soooo many possible problems. And it works sooooo good.

Again, the coupler issue like 03clipesgts is having, comes up from time to time. This was because we wanted the kit to fit to alot of things. But like we have said before, who cares, it needs to fit ours.

ANNOUNCMENT
Starting at this very moment in time!!!
These are special prices for past retail turbo kit customers. This is a special price for you only! You will need to call us on this and speak to a sales manager John Leitl.
-New Rotated intake pipe only (uses your filter and existing clamps) $100
-New updated turbo to intercooler coupler (2" or 2.5") $40
-Blow-thru boost tube $200

Just remember you need to have a Blow-Thru boost tube to use the new intake. Which the $200 price is also special.

I hope people see that we are trying to help. Like we have mentioned before, our turbo kit has done very well over the last coupler years. And while we have had many happy customers, the few with problems have made us look to improving it. Which is what you see on our site now.

[modaddict]

Originally Posted by STIBungy

That pic of modaddict's engine bay is pretty hideous looking with all the couplers like that.

Originally Posted by hybooststi

That looks hideous!!! im glad i went with Ultimate Racing 's kit. zero problems and proven by many! good luck with that ,you should have some shop fab you up a pipe so it looks cleaner,same to you eclipsegts!!! or just sell that junk and get a ur gt35r with a real garret turbo.

Originally Posted by AaronWRX

OMG! Dude... wow. At first I laughed ^^ then I cried. jesus.

damn guys! it didn't look THAT bad. If you look at Freon's, ours is/was the same!

Adam was right, I was using the ebay fmic. Since then, i have grown up.

here's how it eventually looked:
















BUT! here's how it looks now:

[STIBungy]

PerrinJeff, I PM'd you. Lets try to get my issue resolved.

03eclipsegts, with how your IC piping is on the driver's side, would you consider reversing the flow direction? You can easily get an IC pipe fabricated to connect to the throttle body and then turn the turbo's compressor housing down and getting it connected to your passenger side IC piping down on the side of the strut frame. I didnt see a pic of the passenger side but I would imagine it'd be pretty easy.

Modaddict, does your IC piping going to the throttle body run under the car?

[03clipsegts]

Originally Posted by STIBungy

PerrinJeff, I PM'd you. Lets try to get my issue resolved.

03eclipsegts, with how your IC piping is on the driver's side, would you consider reversing the flow direction? You can easily get an IC pipe fabricated to connect to the throttle body and then turn the turbo's compressor housing down and getting it connected to your passenger side IC piping down on the side of the strut frame. I didnt see a pic of the passenger side but I would imagine it'd be pretty easy.

Modaddict, does your IC piping going to the throttle body run under the car?

Thanks for your input. Its a good thought but id have to fab up a few pipes and I already have the blow thru boost tube to relocate my maf. Like Jeff said I talked with him for quite sometime earlier tonight and I think I should be all fixed up.