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Old 06-10-2014, 10:06 AM   #1
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Event: Custom Tune/Dyno
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Elevation: ~1000ft above sea level

Car: 2011 Sti
Tuner: Cleo @ IAG Performance
Peak HP at RPM: 365whp
Peak Torque at RPM: 369ft-lbs
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The car is running the stock drivetrain. IAG put in some weekend time to get the tune done fast and fix boost leaks and a failed FPR and FP. Overall I am very happy but I still have some issues to work out. The wastegate actuator is the medium sized one from Full-Race and is maxed out at 21 psi which may not be a bad thing given the stock block/clutch etc.


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Old 06-10-2014, 10:06 AM   #2
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Some pictures courtesy of Mr. Galaxy S5. Not a whole lot to see in the engine bay but I do love America!










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Old 06-10-2014, 11:59 AM   #3
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I know we chatted about it on iwsti.com but good to see the dyo chart finally of fellow 7163 user.

TBH after seeing how it spools, it has a great powerband and even though you are closer to sea level then my 5000ft elevation, the 93oct will still have a discrepency from the E85 I ran on my 7163.

That powerband is definetly fun on the streets I bet! Also good to note is that we both reached peak boost at the same RPM =D
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:44 PM   #4
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Is stock block/clutch the only reason why you went medium actuator?

Do you plan on running more boost eventually with it?
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Old 06-10-2014, 01:39 PM   #5
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I was unaware at time of purchase that 21 psi would be a ceiling. I would have gotten the large actuator if I had known. Id like to do around 24psi or so. Not sure why they offer a small or medium
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Old 06-10-2014, 01:46 PM   #6
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1) So this is on a stock motor and all?
2) Do you have any engine bay shots?
3) How do you think the stock clutch will hold up to that power?
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:02 PM   #7
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1. Stock motor and all
2. Once imjur complies with my other uploads ill have some pictures posted.
3. Well I wont be launching it but my tuner suggested they can hold a tad over 400whp before slipping...It is all subjective.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:42 PM   #8
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nice powerband! Is your meth kit installed with the tune?
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:51 PM   #9
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1. Stock motor and all
2. Once imjur complies with my other uploads ill have some pictures posted.
3. Well I wont be launching it but my tuner suggested they can hold a tad over 400whp before slipping...It is all subjective.
Nice. thanks for the response.
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Old 06-11-2014, 07:38 AM   #10
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nice powerband! Is your meth kit installed with the tune?
Thank you, I must say this turbo is awesome. Full-Race has also made some improvements to their kit since the release. They sent me the updated parts and such to make it fit (better).

No meth yet. Going to play around a bit more with what I have. My next go fast bits will be equal length headers and either an Aquamist or AEM meth kit. Leaning towards Aquamist because after the failsafe and such for AEM they come out around the same price.

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Nice. thanks for the response.
No problem.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:30 AM   #11
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Very fun for DD.

Looks real close to my dom1.5 on 93. iirc i was in the 375whp range with the same spool.

I cant speak to running 93 ( I only run e85) but if the tune is good you'll be fine at that power level. I've been at 425whp for almost 30K miles now on the stock clutch and bottom end and I beat on it daily.
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:14 AM   #12
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Only one E-85 station in the Baltimore area close to me. Not sure if ill do that or not.
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:54 PM   #13
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Why such low power? Isn't this a mid 400whp turbo on pump?
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:49 PM   #14
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Why such low power? Isn't this a mid 400whp turbo on pump?
how many mid 400 whp pump gas setups are out there? This one is pushing 21 psi, how high do you think it should be? Without head work and cams, Subaru motors usually do about this much on 20-ish psi, which is about what you get if you don't want to be knocking.

What looks nice about this one is it appears to spool early, full boost by 3,750 is nice, usually mid-size turbos are hitting full boost over 4,000, maybe 4,500.
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how many mid 400 whp pump gas setups are out there? This one is pushing 21 psi, how high do you think it should be? Without head work and cams, Subaru motors usually do about this much on 20-ish psi, which is about what you get if you don't want to be knocking.

What looks nice about this one is it appears to spool early, full boost by 3,750 is nice, usually mid-size turbos are hitting full boost over 4,000, maybe 4,500.
Powers all relative to the turbo so not all turbos @ 20psi make the same power. The tuner never mentioned holding back for the sake of the stock motor and says he'd like to push it to 24 with a different actuator. That's why I asked, the power comes on slower than I'd expect from this turbo.
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Powers all relative to the turbo so not all turbos @ 20psi make the same power. The tuner never mentioned holding back for the sake of the stock motor and says he'd like to push it to 24 with a different actuator. That's why I asked, the power comes on slower than I'd expect from this turbo.
Thats why i said it looks alot like my dom1.5 on 93.
I make 22psi before 3500 rpm on corn. Id be pissed if i spent all that extra dool and could have got better results with a lowly dom.

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Old 06-12-2014, 08:46 PM   #17
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The spool really is exceptional. And those are good numbers for pump gas too. This turbo should be able to hit 30+ psi pretty easily, so there is certainly more left in it. Very nice build.
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Thats why i said it looks alot like my dom1.5 on 93.
I make 22psi before 3500 rpm on corn. Id be pissed if i spent all that extra dool and could have got better results with a lowly dom.
e85 helps spool quite a bit. When did you spool on your pump gas map?
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e85 helps spool quite a bit. When did you spool on your pump gas map?
3700 ish
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3700 ish
So about the same out of a smaller turbo. The 71763 is pretty impressive. Especially since it's still the "stock" location setup with a tmic.
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Old 06-12-2014, 09:41 PM   #21
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So about the same out of a smaller turbo. The 71763 is pretty impressive. Especially since it's still the "stock" location setup with a tmic.
I have yet to see any numbers that show it to be impressive though. From what I've seen it performs about the same as a 2.5xtr. Nothing mind blowing or living up to all of the hype as of yet.
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I have yet to see any numbers that show it to be impressive though. From what I've seen it performs about the same as a 2.5xtr. Nothing mind blowing or living up to all of the hype as of yet.
The benefit of it is going to be response, everything in one package, and yes, even a bit of power. As I stated, 21psi isn't pushing the turbo at all really. Certainly can go higher. The current build is being held back by the stock engine and tmic (yep, even a great quality spearco). The other issue is stock location, imho, rotated really is the way to go.

Regardless, if it hits full boost the same as your smaller turbo, but makes the power of the next size up, what's not to love? Especially when throwing in better throttle/transient response, something that doesn't show up on dyno graphs.
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The benefit of it is going to be response, everything in one package, and yes, even a bit of power. As I stated, 21psi isn't pushing the turbo at all really. Certainly can go higher. The current build is being held back by the stock engine and tmic (yep, even a great quality spearco). The other issue is stock location, imho, rotated really is the way to go.

Regardless, if it hits full boost the same as your smaller turbo, but makes the power of the next size up, what's not to love? Especially when throwing in better throttle/transient response, something that doesn't show up on dyno graphs.
That's the thing, Ive not seen it make any more power than a dom1.5/2.5 and response with those two turbos (basically the same) is very fast.

For the price of the 7163 sl setup you could get a rotated GTX3071 with a tial housing and make 500whp with really good response. Hell, phatron has a guy running almost mid 10's with that setup (TMIC and all).

Hate to say it but I'm beginning to think these things were over hyped, I just haven't seen any data to the contrary.

I loved the integral BPV and high flow IWG designs I was and still on the list for one too.
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Old 06-12-2014, 11:26 PM   #24
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That's the thing, Ive not seen it make any more power than a dom1.5/2.5 and response with those two turbos (basically the same) is very fast.

For the price of the 7163 sl setup you could get a rotated GTX3071 with a tial housing and make 500whp with really good response. Hell, phatron has a guy running almost mid 10's with that setup (TMIC and all).

Hate to say it but I'm beginning to think these things were over hyped, I just haven't seen any data to the contrary.

I loved the integral BPV and high flow IWG designs I was and still on the list for one too.
It can make more power than a Dom1.5/2.5 though. It still flows 10-12lb/min more. That's a good 100chp. I have no doubt we will see them putting out sme great numbers, but people need to push them too. 30+ psi, fmic, fully built lb, fuel system, E85 (or even pump, these should shine on pump when built correctly). Just because people aren't pushing the turbo doesn't mean it can't make power.

Granted, there has been an issue with holding that kind of boost. Hopefully that will get sorted out quickly.

I still feel the tech is there too. Boost threshold and transient response (granted, from Perrins blog) seems to be stellar. Even better than Garret options. Is that worth the extra money? To me it would be, to others probably not.


I'm just ecstatic that a company with such great OEM / diesel turbo options is finally making something specific for the aftermarket. It can only get better.
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Diesel turbo FTW!! Curious why no bov??
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