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Old 05-15-2013, 01:15 AM   #576
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I must have the stg5 and the prolevel setup mixed up, my mistake.You are right the 850whp set is the stg 5 and is just under 1k for the pair.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:09 PM   #577
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How is the Radium fuel system holding up? Do you have any more pics of the fuel lines. Do you have the 6466 in yet? I have a 6466 coming with my ETS rotated kit. I just stumbled across your crazy build today. Lot of great ideas in here.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:32 PM   #578
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How is the Radium fuel system holding up? Do you have any more pics of the fuel lines. Do you have the 6466 in yet? I have a 6466 coming with my ETS rotated kit. I just stumbled across your crazy build today. Lot of great ideas in here.
The radium setup works awesome!
I only have the one picture that is posted on the first page but I can take some more when I go to the shop tomorrow if you would like?!

I'm using the 6266 and not the 6466, unless someone were trying to trade lol

If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:18 AM   #579
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The radium setup works awesome!
I only have the one picture that is posted on the first page but I can take some more when I go to the shop tomorrow if you would like?!

I'm using the 6266 and not the 6466, unless someone were trying to trade lol

If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
I would really appreciate seeing how you brought your lines from the stock pump house to the sump. Did you use Russel quick connect 3/8" fittings on the oem house?
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:41 PM   #580
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I would love to know the same thing actually. Also are u running any kind of fuel damper?
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Old 05-26-2013, 10:33 AM   #581
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I would love to know the same thing actually. Also are u running any kind of fuel damper?
I know I already talked to you about my setup but I'll post for thosethat don't know!

Whenever we cut out all the stock hard lines, I cut out the stock quick connect to the pump assembly that are pressed into the stock lines! Simply took a razor to cut the line, pulled the connector, pressed it into the new -6 lines and secured them with clamps!

Also, I'm using no type of fuel damper
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Old 06-06-2013, 04:13 PM   #582
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A lil update...

I drove down to AndrewTech in Maryland the other day and dropped off the transmission to be torn down and replace the differential, pinion and bell housing!

Apparently this was the first Andrew has seen this type of thing happen and after I showed him the video of a 1.40 60" he understood why it broke lol

That is all being taken care of and I placed the order through our parts supplier @ TPG Tuning for a Quarter Master twin-plate clutch w/ hydraulic release bearing that should be able to take the abuse we are planning on throwing at it for Import Face-Off on June 30th!
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:49 AM   #583
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We got the power, we got traction...
But we have a broken transmission!

AndrewTech called me yesterday to let me know that we broke the tranny more than we even imagined unfortunately...

Here are the pictures they sent to me of the carnage:







Note to self...
This is the result 614wtq(close to 700 Dynojet), slick tires and multiple 1.4-1.5 60 ft runs!

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Old 06-12-2013, 12:07 PM   #584
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are you dumping the clutch? Thats why I keep my torque low
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:13 PM   #585
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Wow, nice job on the tranny and front diff! Dial your DCCD to the rear/ locked and add more air to your front tires!
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:52 PM   #586
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are you dumping the clutch? Thats why I keep my torque low
What's the point in building a fast car if your going to to baby it?

Slipping the clutch with a 5800rpm launch!
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:57 PM   #587
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Wow, nice job on the tranny and front diff! Dial your DCCD to the rear/ locked and add more air to your front tires!
Da' fuq?

So you want me to put the power to the rear which its even more driveline loss through driveshaft and rear end?

Repeat... we had a 1.4 sec 60 ft!
Prove to me that what your saying will get new a faster time slip and I'll do it lol
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:17 PM   #588
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Da' fuq?

So you want me to put the power to the rear which its even more driveline loss through driveshaft and rear end?

Repeat... we had a 1.4 sec 60 ft!
Prove to me that what your saying will get new a faster time slip and I'll do it lol
hes saying you may have a non broken trans then...
honestly this is only like the 2nd time i have heard of a sti trans blowing up like this..and im sure there are quite a few guys getting 60 foots down there like yours
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Not that i am saying that his advice is good personally i say rebuild that **** and go back out and get lower times
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:11 PM   #589
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Put it in lock (full front) not rear! and like he said add a couple of psi's to the front tires. I got 1.4's all day on DOT Hoosier Radials w/o a problem and knock on wood no broken trannys or axles (stock) yet!

You could step it up another notch and get a DCCD Pro and lock it in 1st and 2nd gear and then switch up the ratio in all other gears. I haven't needed that yet but when the time comes that is what I will be doing.
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you should be able to still 60 ft just as well with less power and you will notice after more passes under your belt that once you get the 60 nice and consistant than the car will want to spin once it gets out into 2nd and 3rd gear(when you get off the concrete launch pad lol).Just curious what kind of boost are you leaving on.\?
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Da' fuq?

So you want me to put the power to the rear which its even more driveline loss through driveshaft and rear end?

Repeat... we had a 1.4 sec 60 ft!
Prove to me that what your saying will get new a faster time slip and I'll do it lol
You're gonna have driveline loss regardless of where you send the torque. I know that's a good 60' and I don't think you will lose anything time wise, maybe gain some and not break the front diff!

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Put it in lock (full front) not rear! and like he said add a couple of psi's to the front tires. I got 1.4's all day on DOT Hoosier Radials w/o a problem and knock on wood no broken trannys or axles (stock) yet!

You could step it up another notch and get a DCCD Pro and lock it in 1st and 2nd gear and then switch up the ratio in all other gears. I haven't needed that yet but when the time comes that is what I will be doing.
I said to the rear, locked and it's only 59% anyway. If he puts the bias to the rear and adds air to the front tires it will put less strain on the front diff. and maybe not break it! He should probably let some air out of the rear tires to get more squat and make it leave more like a rear drive but without all the spinning!
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You're gonna have driveline loss regardless of where you send the torque. I know that's a good 60' and I don't think you will lose anything time wise, maybe gain some and not break the front diff!
I understand it will make my chances off breaking the front diff lower but by sending power to the rear making my chances of blowing the rear diff higher so what's the point?

Yes, of course there is going to be driveline loss, of course! But by shifting power to the rear end, the majority of power now has to go through the output shaft, drive shaft, rear diff, axles then to the wheels and all parts are going to twist and create less power put to the ground

The purpose of AWD is to use all four wheels to put the power to the ground so why would I want to favor front or rear so I don't break anything? I want to go fast and as quickly as possible, things are going to break lol

If I wanted to put the power the rear, I would buy a turbo 400 built auto

If I wanted to put the power to the front...
I would buy a Honda and sell my sti
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These Subaru's are not really built to be drag cars but you know that. The R180 and rear axles (if yours are stock) are stronger anyway. It won't hurt to experiment some and see what will work best with your build.

Did you do the driveshaft and axle upgrades like I think you mentioned earlier?
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The purpose of AWD is to use all four wheels to put the power to the ground so why would I want to favor front or rear so I don't break anything?
Because weight transfer...
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^^^he does make a good point some of the fastest subys in the world that are still awd still kinda pull the frt tires off the grnd-ex. rigolis 8 sec car and the blue st.lucias car at p&l come to mind.JR would be a good one to chime in on that setup.
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Old 06-13-2013, 12:22 AM   #596
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You pulled a 1.4 60'? There isn't any point to running all that Tq especially at the drag strip. Your tuner must think its funny for you to blow up transmissions. Could be avoid with a different strategy, just my suggestion.
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You pulled a 1.4 60'? There isn't any point to running all that Tq especially at the drag strip. Your tuner must think its funny for you to blow up transmissions. Could be avoid with a different strategy, just my suggestion.
No point in torque?
Well I better go buy a Honda then!

How do you come up with the assumption he thinks it's funny?
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No point in torque?
Well I better go buy a Honda then!

How do you come up with the assumption he thinks it's funny?
If you think breaking parts is cool be my guess. There is plenty of cars that are faster than yours that don't break parts like you are doing. To me it seems that your car is tuned to edge just for one glory pass.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...&postcount=152

again people have achieved 60' like yours on drag radials and without breaking stuff.



That crazy peak torque is doing nothing for your times since it tappers like crazy at the end. I bet your tuner can lower the peak torque and maybe carry a little more torque at redline.
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If you think breaking parts is cool be my guess. There is plenty of cars that are faster than yours that don't break parts like you are doing. To me it seems that your car is tuned to edge just for one glory pass.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...&postcount=152

again people have achieved 60' like yours on drag radials and without breaking stuff.

That crazy peak torque is doing nothing for your times since it tappers like crazy at the end. I bet your tuner can lower the peak torque and maybe carry a little more torque at redline.
Of course people have went faster than me lol

But last time I checked, no one has a GR chassis faster than mine?

**** breaks, rebuild and move on...

Nate has put a great deal of his own time and effort into my sti so saying he tuned it for one glory run, that is completely false!

So please explain how Lance Lucas was so impressed with our times in a full street trim GR w/ 62mm that he asked me to send him the video link to show his co-workers @ Cobb Surgeline...



But apparently it's not impressive to you and the rest of the people who disagree with our strategy for the car that makes close to 700 whp/wtq on a dynojet?

Andrew @ AndrewTech invited Nate and myself to bring the car down to the Turbo XS dyno to beat his record which is 604whp from what he told me...

Luke Munnell @ Import Tuner also wants to go for a ride in the car when he comes through the Pittsburgh area later this summer...

Guess these guys wouldn't know anything about making fast cars and time slips to prove it would they?

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Dude, ease up a little! This is all constructive criticism from everyone who has posted suggestions and none of this should be considered attacks on you or Nate. You guys have put together a nice build and it's making great power!

You won't loose any HP with what suggestions have been made. I think what a lot of us are saying is to build a more gradual torque ramp that holds the torque out longer without the spike and fall. Edit: it's still making a lot of torque at 7k! It will probably make your car faster in the long run!

The other thing is the strategy for launching to make it squat back more and leave like a RWD, using the natural rearward weight shift, loading the rear tires more and lessening the load on the front of the drive line. This should help your times and hopefully even the durability of the car. FYI, Junior wants me to try just rear drag radials on my car and matching up the diameter with my 26.7" tall street tires in the front. There's a MT 265/40-18 that will match up really close for me but I'm not quite there yet as I have other stuff I'm doing to the car, $$'s etc... I do want to try this and see how it goes for me. I'm not comparing my build to yours as you are making way more power than me but the approach is basically the same.

You don't really like to break **** do you and spend more money unnecessarily? I'm sure we're all just trying to help.....that's all!

NO disrespect!!
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