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Old 08-06-2012, 05:14 PM   #1
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Default Moving to Arizona, looking for some helpful advise with car prep

Hi Ladies and Gents,

I'm moving from Portland to Phoenix and I'm doing everything I can to make sure my car (02' WRX) is as prepped for the AZ sun as possible.

I have a few questions about items I was considering installing on the car but don't know if they are effective, or gimmicks, or detrimental. Also, some items might be good for the PacNW and not desirable in AZ. I figured SWIC would know best.

Water Wetter - good/bad/useless?

Grimmspeed lower temp Thermostat - yay or nay?

Grillcraft steel mesh grill to replace top grill and cover lower bumper (not installing on hood scoop) - too big a detriment to air flow or a stylish way to effectively protect your engine bay?

PTP turbo blanket - too hot for Arizona or a good way to minimize heat transmitted to the intercooler?

Also, my car has been tuned by Cobb up here in Oregon. I heard gas sucks in AZ, do you think I need to get a new tune when I get to Phoenix?

Any other suggestions or warnings?

Look forward to meeting some of you when I get down to SWIC Country.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:26 PM   #2
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Im not sure about a lot of that stuff but you will most likely need a tune. Our premium is 91 instead of 93.

Get your windows tinted if it's not already. Also service your AC system. Also make sure your battery is good. The heat out here kills batteries and they rarely last more than 2 years.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:34 PM   #3
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What C-grunt said, plus make sure your tires are happy. Summer brings on lots of blow-outs.
You'll probably want to change your windshield wipers after the summer heat is gone (assuming they're decent to begin with), as the heat tends to kick the **** out of rubbery stuff.
Good luck with the move to the surface of the sun.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:37 PM   #4
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Im not sure about a lot of that stuff but you will most likely need a tune. Our premium is 91 instead of 93.

Get your windows tinted if it's not already. Also service your AC system. Also make sure your battery is good. The heat out here kills batteries and they rarely last more than 2 years.
Like he said you will need a tune when you get down here. And window tint is huge out here, I honestly don't know how people can live without it out here. I would also think that the turbo blanket and any other kind of heat wrap would be good to use. You don't necessarily need any of it, but hey if you like it and you run your car hard then use it!

Oh and during the summer, don't leave anything of value that is susceptible to heat in your car if its in the sun or it will become junk.

Other than that...

Welcome to AZ man!
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:46 PM   #5
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Oh and during the summer, don't leave anything of value that is susceptible to heat in your car if its in the sun or it will become junk.
Oh. Yeah. Your trunk survival kit will change drastically (speaking as someone who came from Reno, NV). Everything melts. No chapstick, sunscreen, or anything that melts easily on a stovetop (as a temp comparison). Keeping water in your trunk doesn't usually work unless it's like survival-ly sealed, 'cause the plastic container will degrade fairly shortly. I don't keep anything flammable in my car anymore either. No matches, lighters, anything. I think I might have a flare or two, but that's it.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:49 PM   #6
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All the stuff you said is really un necessary.(heat wraps not a bad udea though) in phx during summer all you really need to run is distilled water and your good. My buddy with a lower temp thermostat had a hard time getting his car warmed up enough for avcs to work,(daily driving) but I guess thats not an issue for your car.
Just make sure your radiator system is in good working order, and you should be good togo...

Also depending what kind of weight oil you run may change here

And yes, you will need a retune. I think cobb does an ots tune for cali piss gas/ low elevation that should get you by
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:13 PM   #7
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Wow, thanks so much for the quick and numerous responses!

I didn't think about the window tinting, I'll definitely have to get that going.

I'm in the process of repairing the A/C as we speak.

I spent my younger childhood in Phoenix so I know all about leaving stuff in the car (RIP Gameboy)

Again, thanks for the advice, can't wait to make it to some meets.
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:08 PM   #8
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welcome

wont see me around for a bit maybe when you come down. (my thread is the reason why)

edit: but i also say the tune, tint, a/c should be your biggest concerns

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Old 08-06-2012, 07:42 PM   #9
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When I moved from the nwic to the swic a coulple years back a tune was about the only thing I did. If you need new tires or a new battery (DieHard brand), let me know as I work @ a Sears Auto Center and can get you hooked up. Pretty much everything has already been listed. What part of the valley are you moving to?
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:53 PM   #10
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On the window tinting...make sure it is one with metallic or ceramic in it so it actually blocks heat, not just a coloring. (Prolly best to wait till you get here to do it). Also, you are allowed to do a mild tint on the front windows, and as dark as you want on the rear windows/glass.

I would say nay on the lower temp Tstat, but yay on a coolant flush if you have not done it in a while.

Do recharge your A/C, check it for leaks before you leave.

No need for the grillcraft. Though a clear bra is helpful if you don't already have rock chips.

definitely get a retune--and don't go WOT until you do. Goodspeed or ForcedAir can do those for you.

If I were to do anything for temp reduction, it'd be an oil cooler with a Tstat or a larger radiator.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:34 PM   #11
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So far I've bought new tires and just had the A/C recharged and I installed a mishimoto radiator last Summer. Looks like I need to get a good tint and then I'll be all set.

Thanks again guys and girls.

Also, I'm headed to Tempe to finish my last two years of school courtesy of the Gi Bill.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:04 PM   #12
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I recently moved here as well and immediatly noticed a significant decrease in power thanks to the crappiest gas in the country and the extreme heat rendering my intercooler fairly useless. Been here for about 2 months now and so far I have replaced my radiator with a Koyorad, got a new Process West TMIC, wrapped UP and DP and used DEI Reflectagold on most of the intake surfaces, intercooler and on the back of my turbo heat shield. I also just got converted to E85 as well since the 91 "premium" gas is pathetic here... what a huge improvement that was! Unfortunatly, not very many stations carry it in the east side of town. I also added some of that WaterWetter stuff... not sure how much if any impact it had...

Car seems to handle the heat much better now after all that anti-heat work done to it. I would highly recommend doing whatever you can like that to help your car here.

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Old 08-07-2012, 01:15 AM   #13
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AZ gas isn't too bad when compared to places like Utah. It's not 93, but it isn't bad.

Water wetter helps, but really shouldn't be a problem unless your cooling system already had problems to start with. Stick with an OEM thermostat.

As everybody else has said, tint is awesome. Preferably the stuff that actually has the heat blocker/uv blocker, but any kind of tint helps.
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:51 PM   #14
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Agree ^^ just stay away from all the crap gas stations here! I only go to three top tier rated stations, and that is Shell, Chevron, QT! Have fun moving!
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:57 PM   #15
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Agree ^^ just stay away from all the crap gas stations here! I only go to three top tier rated stations, and that is Shell, Chevron, QT! Have fun moving!
I go out of my way to get my gas from QT. Both my Subie and my G have really liked their gas.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:15 PM   #16
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What he said! ^^
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:35 PM   #17
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I moved from Portland to Phoenix in June of 08 with a 02 wrx. Only thing I did was a retune and limo tint. Down the road I did a more efficient TMIC and cooler plugs. I had a wrapped header previously as well.

You WILL lose power, you WILL think your car is slow.

I would deff do

ICE cold AC
Tint
Cooling system in order
RETUNE (most important)
tires because the heat can cause blow outs which can be scary


get out and get used to the heat because it takes some time. Say goodbye to green as well!
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:59 PM   #18
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Buy a windshield sunscreen for when your parked. And get in the habit of using it. Super heated steering wheels are uncomfortable!
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:37 PM   #19
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Buy a windshield sunscreen for when your parked. And get in the habit of using it. Super heated steering wheels are uncomfortable!
Great one to do/buy for sure
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:59 PM   #20
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Buy a windshield sunscreen for when your parked. And get in the habit of using it. Super heated steering wheels are uncomfortable!
Also helps from heating up the penis portion of your seat belt to 1,000,000 degrees. Its a fun time when your arm touches it as your getting in the car.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:38 PM   #21
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Buy a set of summer tires because thats all you will end up using.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:22 PM   #22
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I just moved to Phoenix 5 days ago from Portland! GF's 04 wrx made it great. AC blows cold and the stock thermostat is great. I've idled in a parking lot with AC cranked for 30 mins and it didn't even bat an eye on the temp gauge. Car has trouble moving when it's 110 and ac is cranked though lol. I do need to re tune it though once I get some time.
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:55 PM   #23
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I just moved to Phoenix 5 days ago from Portland! GF's 04 wrx made it great. AC blows cold and the stock thermostat is great. I've idled in a parking lot with AC cranked for 30 mins and it didn't even bat an eye on the temp gauge. Car has trouble moving when it's 110 and ac is cranked though lol. I do need to re tune it though once I get some time.
Hey bro welcome. glad you had a safe trip. see you around sometime. you too Sodajones
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:22 AM   #24
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Also, my car has been tuned by Cobb up here in Oregon. I heard gas sucks in AZ, do you think I need to get a new tune when I get to Phoenix?
What up SWIC? I'm in the same boat as what seems to be already a few people. I'll be moving to Avondale from Portland and just as Sodajones mentioned, my bugeye has the accessport and a tune on the 92 here. i know i need a re-tune, but being a student and having just gotten out of the military, i'm a little broke.

no worries though! I'm running a vf34 turbo on essentially what has become more and more stock to start from scratch when i finish my move. I am just trying to figure out if by replacing the stock wrx injectors with some STi pinks and switching to my Econ. map until i can afford the tune, would help or if driving the subie regardless on lower grade will just destroy it.

it says "scooby newbie" for a reason, yall, so please go easy Just looking to maintain the wagon. A/C's getting recharged, set of new tires(4), and window tint with the UV blocker will all be done a week before I make it down. Looking forward to meeting ya'll!
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What up SWIC? I'm in the same boat as what seems to be already a few people. I'll be moving to Avondale from Portland and just as Sodajones mentioned, my bugeye has the accessport and a tune on the 92 here. i know i need a re-tune, but being a student and having just gotten out of the military, i'm a little broke.

no worries though! I'm running a vf34 turbo on essentially what has become more and more stock to start from scratch when i finish my move. I am just trying to figure out if by replacing the stock wrx injectors with some STi pinks and switching to my Econ. map until i can afford the tune, would help or if driving the subie regardless on lower grade will just destroy it.

it says "scooby newbie" for a reason, yall, so please go easy Just looking to maintain the wagon. A/C's getting recharged, set of new tires(4), and window tint with the UV blocker will all be done a week before I make it down. Looking forward to meeting ya'll!
Welcome bro. See you around have a safe trip
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