Accelerated Performance's BRZ-300 Kit gets more boost thanks to EcuTek !

Visconti · 08-08-2012, 12:36 AM

Event: Dyno Tune !
Location: Accelerated Performance| Toledo, OH
Ambient Temp: 80 degrees
Elevation: 790-800ft
Weather: Pretty Warm

Car: 2012 Subaru BRZ
Tuner: Visconti
Dyno Info: DynoJet 224
Peak HP at RPM: 278 @ 7200
Peak Torque at RPM: 215 @ 5500
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: 161WHP/136WTQ
Target AFR:

Fuel: Straight 93 unleaded
Engine/Power Modifications: Stock Header, Accelerated Performance BRZ-300 Turbo Kit @ 10PSI, OMNI 4 BAR Map Sensor

Well it's been a few weeks since I first posted up the results of this turbo kit on low boost..

Last time on the dyno we ran into ecu limits preventing us from increasing the boost. Since then EcuTek has been working super hard on defining this ECU. Well their hard work paid off because now this car is taking boost like a champ!

Accelerated Performance BRZ/FRS-300 Turbo Kit @ 10PSI - YouTube

I'll post up more info later - Have a turbo automatic to tune tomorrow so need to get ready for that!

-John

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xluben · 08-08-2012, 12:42 AM

Wow, those results look great! That is such a linear powerband!

z · 08-08-2012, 01:00 AM

Very nice. Do you think that's about all the boost it can take unless you lower the compression? Or is there more on the table?

pooster.online · 08-08-2012, 01:05 AM

stock header??

SoCal_Scooby · 08-08-2012, 01:05 AM

Do headers and a full straight pipe...

Visconti · 08-08-2012, 01:10 AM

I think it'll make a little more with a header and larger injections.

Port Injectors are maxed out and I dont trust the direct injection enough to increase the volume of fuel coming out of them for additional hp..

-John

SoCal_Scooby · 08-08-2012, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visconti

I think it'll make a little more with a header and larger injections.

Port Injectors are maxed out and I dont trust the direct injection enough to increase the volume of fuel coming out of them for additional hp..

-John

Can you use Boost a pump from kenne bell?

Visconti · 08-08-2012, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal_Scooby

Can you use Boost a pump from kenne bell?

Fuel volume is not a problem at this point in time - so no boostapump

I have a few different sized injectors from Spray It Racing coming that I need to try out.

This is a good power level for this car right now.

Once I get the Per Gear Boost Control from EcuTek we can start turning up the boost - until then it'll be pointless.

-John

SoCal_Scooby · 08-08-2012, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visconti

Fuel volume is not a problem at this point in time - so no boostapump

I have a few different sized injectors from Spray It Racing coming that I need to try out.

This is a good power level for this car right now.

Once I get the Per Gear Boost Control from EcuTek we can start turning up the boost - until then it'll be pointless.

-John

Antilag for ****s and giggles please

Visconti · 08-08-2012, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCal_Scooby

Antilag for ****s and giggles please

I have no problem setting that up when I have a BRZ with a built motor - until then just normal launch control !

-John

RallySport Direct · 08-08-2012, 01:42 AM

Wow nice, and the numbers just keep growing and growing!

Thanks,
Rick

domestic_abuser · 08-08-2012, 02:26 AM

I'm curious to know why these cars aren't making torque like our boxers...(wrx/legacy/fozz/etc)

Besides the obvious 2.5L reasoning...I'm talking 2L to 2L...RWD?

Irv Weissmanhowerton · 08-08-2012, 05:06 AM

reminds me of the low torque from any other fwd turbo'd honda, its the reason all of those guys even with 500+whp go to a lower hp subie, the torque being so low and the traction

2gnt2wrx · 08-08-2012, 08:17 AM

What is the price point of these turbo kits? any smaller turbo options?

Visconti · 08-08-2012, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by domestic_abuser

I'm curious to know why these cars aren't making torque like our boxers...(wrx/legacy/fozz/etc)

Besides the obvious 2.5L reasoning...I'm talking 2L to 2L...RWD?

I have a really weak wastegate spring in the car so boost doesn't come on hard, it slowly rolls in.

If I were to put a 10PSI spring in it I think it would come on harder

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2gnt2wrx

What is the price point of these turbo kits? any smaller turbo options?

I believe their about 5k + Tune
Smaller - Nope, only bigger

-John

xluben · 08-08-2012, 08:41 AM

Does this motor use a cam driven fuel pump? Has it been considered when increasing power? I know that on some other direct injection platforms it is a huge limitation, and is often replaced if you're going to do anything past stock or Stage 1.

CatfaceType-R · 08-08-2012, 08:45 AM

Good job, John. Nice to see u on the leading edge.

Carmi

Visconti · 08-08-2012, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xluben

Does this motor use a cam driven fuel pump? Has it been considered when increasing power? I know that on some other direct injection platforms it is a huge limitation, and is often replaced if you're going to do anything past stock or Stage 1.

So far so good with fueling.

I've increased the demand on the direct injection system a good amount - but having tuned other DI platforms i know what kinda mess could lie ahead.

This is why during WOT I mostly use Port Injection - but nothing to date has given me any concerns on this DI system - works SURPRISING well. I think its fair to assume Toyota & Subaru didn't ask for Mazda's help lol

-John

Quote:

Originally Posted by soon2bblackongold

Good job, John. Nice to see u on the leading edge.

Carmi

Thanks

Squidz · 08-08-2012, 08:48 AM

Awesome job guys! Graph looks really nice.

Does the BRZ come from the factory with port injection and direct injection? Or did you add the port injection for the turbo kit?

Visconti · 08-08-2012, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squidz

Awesome job guys! Graph looks really nice.

Does the BRZ come from the factory with port injection and direct injection? Or did you add the port injection for the turbo kit?

Comes with both Port and direct injection from the factory

-John

arf80 · 08-08-2012, 08:55 AM

So what's it like to drive now?

Squidz · 08-08-2012, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visconti

Comes with both Port and direct injection from the factory

-John

Wierd...wonder what the reasoning is behind that. Havn't tuned or worked with many direct injection cars.

CatfaceType-R · 08-08-2012, 09:23 AM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3172

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6572

Direct is for wot and port for startup/idle, no?

Visconti · 08-08-2012, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soon2bblackongold

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3172

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6572

Direct is for wot and port for startup/idle, no?

Its a lot more complicated than that.

To be honest the way it's setup from the factory doesn't make 100% sense to me.

During WOT in the midrange its only using Direct

-John

Squidz · 08-08-2012, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visconti

Its a lot more complicated than that.

It always is.

I found some good info in our tech manuals and online that kinda filled me in. Interesting way for them to get around some of the DI driveability problems...

Either way..sorry to jack. The turbo BRZ is da sex.

08-08-2012, 02:26 AM	#12
domestic_abuser Scooby Specialist Member#: 126696 Join Date: Sep 2006 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: las vegas Vehicle: 2002 Fatbody bugeye 03 R1 09 Raptor 700R	I'm curious to know why these cars aren't making torque like our boxers...(wrx/legacy/fozz/etc) Besides the obvious 2.5L reasoning...I'm talking 2L to 2L...RWD? Last edited by domestic_abuser; 08-08-2012 at 05:53 AM.

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08-08-2012, 12:42 AM	#2
xluben NASIOC Supporter Member#: 261612 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Minneapolis, MN Vehicle: 2011 WRX 5 Door NF Performance Stage 1	Wow, those results look great! That is such a linear powerband!

08-08-2012, 01:00 AM	#3
z Scooby Specialist Member#: 41762 Join Date: Aug 2003 Chapter/Region: International Location: House of Pancakes Vehicle: 04 STi CT-DE-FL rinse+repeat	Very nice. Do you think that's about all the boost it can take unless you lower the compression? Or is there more on the table?

08-08-2012, 01:05 AM	#4
pooster.online Scooby Newbie Member#: 120461 Join Date: Jul 2006 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Bay Area/ L.A Vehicle: 2004 WRX STi JBP	stock header??

08-08-2012, 01:05 AM	#5
SoCal_Scooby Scooby Specialist Member#: 210777 Join Date: May 2009 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Laguna Niguel Vehicle: .. Don't worry bout' it Brah	Do headers and a full straight pipe...

08-08-2012, 01:10 AM	#6
Visconti NASIOC Vendor Member#: 156247 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Norwalk, CT Vehicle: 05 STI-10.6 @ 134 GTR - 9.31 @ 151.78	I think it'll make a little more with a header and larger injections. Port Injectors are maxed out and I dont trust the direct injection enough to increase the volume of fuel coming out of them for additional hp.. -John

08-08-2012, 01:42 AM	#11
RallySport Direct NASIOC Vendor Member#: 33174 Join Date: Feb 2003 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Salt Lake City Utah Vehicle: We are Open Late! 888-457-2559 Every day!	Wow nice, and the numbers just keep growing and growing! Thanks, Rick

08-08-2012, 05:06 AM	#13
Irv Weissmanhowerton Scooby Specialist Member#: 278519 Join Date: Apr 2011 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Area P, Alliance Fab Vehicle: KBiz KeeganLB 30rSTI phatron tuned	reminds me of the low torque from any other fwd turbo'd honda, its the reason all of those guys even with 500+whp go to a lower hp subie, the torque being so low and the traction

08-08-2012, 08:17 AM	#14
2gnt2wrx Scooby Specialist Member#: 123625 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Waukesha, WI Vehicle: 2002 wrx vf34 Tuned at Cobb	What is the price point of these turbo kits? any smaller turbo options?

08-08-2012, 08:41 AM	#16
xluben NASIOC Supporter Member#: 261612 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Minneapolis, MN Vehicle: 2011 WRX 5 Door NF Performance Stage 1	Does this motor use a cam driven fuel pump? Has it been considered when increasing power? I know that on some other direct injection platforms it is a huge limitation, and is often replaced if you're going to do anything past stock or Stage 1.

08-08-2012, 08:45 AM	#17
CatfaceType-R NASIOC Supporter Member#: 81102 Join Date: Feb 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: busy cat	Good job, John. Nice to see u on the leading edge. Carmi

08-08-2012, 08:48 AM	#19
Squidz Scooby Guru Member#: 142608 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Cute fuzzy cuddly kitten hell. Vehicle: 2003 Sonic Yellow Marginally well behaved.	Awesome job guys! Graph looks really nice. Does the BRZ come from the factory with port injection and direct injection? Or did you add the port injection for the turbo kit?

08-08-2012, 08:55 AM	#21
arf80 Scooby Newbie Member#: 125580 Join Date: Sep 2006 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: North NJ Vehicle: 2011 WRX 5dr OBP	So what's it like to drive now?

08-08-2012, 09:23 AM	#23
CatfaceType-R NASIOC Supporter Member#: 81102 Join Date: Feb 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: busy cat	http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3172 http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6572 Direct is for wot and port for startup/idle, no?