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Old 02-25-2013, 01:15 PM   #6876
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Damn man.... when did you order? I'm guessing Jan13 due to your join date?

And is that two weeks at the dealership for accessories?
I ordered Jan 22, and that's at the dealership
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:07 PM   #6877
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Read back several pages for my comments on flashing with cobb's off the shelf maps.

The stock tune is HORRIBLE.
That read's HORRIBLE in english.

It's bad for you, bad for your car, and bad for me when I sleep at night.

It has a 2 second delay for open/closed loop transition, which when you romp on it and build boost quickly, means that you run LEAN until it goes into open loop and lowers the AF/R.
You are more then welcome to go through ALL the effort I and many others have done to end up proving me right, or you can just take my and many others words for it (you read it on the internet, duh?).

FLASH STAGE 1.
I did it within 1hr after picking up my car. 1st time I built boost I nearly puked at the fueling and surging and nonsense.
The end.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:13 PM   #6878
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Arent you supposed to break in before flashing to stage 1?
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:19 PM   #6879
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the less time on the stock tune, the better. that's how i look at it
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:20 PM   #6880
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Arent you supposed to break in before flashing to stage 1?
Logically why would that make sense if stage 1 tune is better than the factory? Wouldn't you want to break the motor in under more ideal running conditions?

It probably won't make much difference either way since you don't build boost much during the break in. But I wouldn't be afraid to flash after rolling it off the lot.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:29 PM   #6881
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Once you drive the car you'll understand that "not building boost" is simply not an option.

This isn't a 60mm turbo, it will spool as you daily drive around trying to impersonate a 90yr old without her glasses, nothing you can do about that.
What you can do is prevent your ECU from IMPROPERLY FUELING while this is happening.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:30 PM   #6882
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Read back several pages for my comments on flashing with cobb's off the shelf maps.

The stock tune is HORRIBLE.
That read's HORRIBLE in english.

It's bad for you, bad for your car, and bad for me when I sleep at night.

It has a 2 second delay for open/closed loop transition, which when you romp on it and build boost quickly, means that you run LEAN until it goes into open loop and lowers the AF/R.
You are more then welcome to go through ALL the effort I and many others have done to end up proving me right, or you can just take my and many others words for it (you read it on the internet, duh?).

FLASH STAGE 1.
I did it within 1hr after picking up my car. 1st time I built boost I nearly puked at the fueling and surging and nonsense.
The end.
Not everyone a rich engineer like you man!!! I'm on the fence about getting one. Too much money, I have all kind of payments to worry about. May be I should sell my AR15
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:38 PM   #6883
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Nvm. Ill be flashing right when I get mine.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:39 PM   #6884
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May be I should sell my AR15
Don't know if I could justify getting rid of my AR
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:42 PM   #6885
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Oh I completely understood what you were saying, which is why I fashioned the response I did.

See, quick throttle transitions and aggressive driving are not what makes the oem tunes doo doo ability shine.
It needs only input from it's sensors, to exhibit it's horrible calculations and foul everything up. You'll be feeding it plenty of said input regardless of how you drive.

Oh and everyone seems to think that there are no other cars on the road that WILL influence how you drive yours.
Everyone babies their car, until some idiot floors it when you pull out and to avoid being rear ended you have to GO SON GO.
That is just one example, but **** happens you will need to ask your car to answer you at least 20 times in the first 200 miles let alone 1000.

Better to be prepared.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:46 PM   #6886
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you will need to ask your car to answer you at least 20 times in the first 200 miles let alone 1000.
Luckily us NH/Mainers don't have to worry too often about dbags putting you into an uncomfortable position.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:48 PM   #6887
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I wish, i'm in atlanta and this is my daily driver.

Breaking the car in properly was easy, not collecting 20 felony assault charges before I got to work was the challenge.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:52 PM   #6888
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Thanks for the responses. Your background in understanding how the ecu works is very useful, just goin back in forth with you around a few threads I've learned quiet a bit and honestly you saved me from making a couple of mistakes with a brand new car.

Cheers. Now to keep waiting...
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:24 PM   #6889
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New to the forums but not subies used to have a 04 sti. Went to the dealer last Wednesday and ordered a 2013 wrx will be in march 20!
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:29 PM   #6890
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Today marks 6 weeks since I ordered. No info yet. I will be calling my dealer in a little bit so see if that have any new info.
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:47 PM   #6891
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Don't know if I could justify getting rid of my AR
I can't either but all this madness about Gunpocalypse is driving the ammo price insanely high, HARD to find. The gun is just very hard to enjoy now. I only have about 200 rounds left and it hurts me every time I pull the trigger. I wish they would make up their mind already and either ban or not ban the damn thing. May be I should sell my Barretta instead since I got a 1911 now.
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Old 02-25-2013, 05:17 PM   #6892
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4 weeks down.
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Old 02-25-2013, 05:21 PM   #6893
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I can't either but all this madness about Gunpocalypse is driving the ammo price insanely high, HARD to find. The gun is just very hard to enjoy now. I only have about 200 rounds left and it hurts me every time I pull the trigger. I wish they would make up their mind already and either ban or not ban the damn thing. May be I should sell my Barretta instead since I got a 1911 now.
I've got an idea, stop pulling the trigger. And don't sell or give up your AR for an aftermarket tune. Not worth it IMO. I'm sure you know that your AR is worth 3x more then what you paid for it under these gun/ammo shortages. Keep it.

On another note, 7 weeks since I ordered my WRX. Should hopefully get a VIN in the next couple of weeks.
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:47 PM   #6894
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I've got an idea, stop pulling the trigger. And don't sell or give up your AR for an aftermarket tune. Not worth it IMO. I'm sure you know that your AR is worth 3x more then what you paid for it under these gun/ammo shortages. Keep it.

On another note, 7 weeks since I ordered my WRX. Should hopefully get a VIN in the next couple of weeks.
But then my AR15 just sitting there doing nothing but looks pretty lol. It'll probably kill me to sell it. Just a thought
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:20 PM   #6895
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Read back several pages for my comments on flashing with cobb's off the shelf maps.

The stock tune is HORRIBLE.
That read's HORRIBLE in english.

It's bad for you, bad for your car, and bad for me when I sleep at night.

It has a 2 second delay for open/closed loop transition, which when you romp on it and build boost quickly, means that you run LEAN until it goes into open loop and lowers the AF/R.
You are more then welcome to go through ALL the effort I and many others have done to end up proving me right, or you can just take my and many others words for it (you read it on the internet, duh?).

FLASH STAGE 1.
I did it within 1hr after picking up my car. 1st time I built boost I nearly puked at the fueling and surging and nonsense.
The end.
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Logically why would that make sense if stage 1 tune is better than the factory? Wouldn't you want to break the motor in under more ideal running conditions?

It probably won't make much difference either way since you don't build boost much during the break in. But I wouldn't be afraid to flash after rolling it off the lot.
Mainly quoting you guys because you seem to be pretty knowledgeable regarding COBB.

I'm a subienoobie, so this may sound like a retarded question.Please don't flame, I'll set myself on fire

Could I do a stage 1 flash with no modifications? I don't want to do the whole Intake/Exhaust etc.

I didn't plan on doing anything performance wise; however, by the sound of it, it seems like the stage 1 ecu tune is "Better" for the longevity of my car.

Anyone else with knowledge on this, feel free to chime in
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:24 PM   #6896
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Mainly quoting you guys because you seem to be pretty knowledgeable regarding COBB.

I'm a subienoobie, so this may sound like a retarded question.Please don't flame, I'll set myself on fire

Could I do a stage 1 flash with no modifications? I don't want to do the whole Intake/Exhaust etc.

I didn't plan on doing anything performance wise; however, by the sound of it, it seems like the stage 1 ecu tune is "Better" for the longevity of my car.

Anyone else with knowledge on this, feel free to chime in
Yes you can run stage 1 tune with zero other mods. Go to cobbtuning.com and it will give you all you need. Download the map you want and your done.
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:04 PM   #6897
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Yes you can run stage 1 tune with zero other mods. Go to cobbtuning.com and it will give you all you need. Download the map you want and your done.
Thanks Anubis. I found this Chart. I know I wouldn't run the ACN because I don't live in AZ, but other than that, which one would I go for?




I'm probably overthinking this and losing credibility as I post
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:17 PM   #6898
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Run normal 91 or 93 octane if you have it in your area. Monitor your boost levels and make sure your within target on the map notes.

Trust me the stock OTS cobb maps are very safe and conservative.
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:20 PM   #6899
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You can PM me if you want when you get it and i will help you out. Like I said i ran the cobb AP on my last 2 cars so i have some decent experience.
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:36 PM   #6900
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You can PM me if you want when you get it and i will help you out. Like I said i ran the cobb AP on my last 2 cars so i have some decent experience.
Sweet... Thanks! I sent you a friend request.
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