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Old 08-16-2012, 02:12 PM   #151
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Can anyone confirm that armrest extension was NOT able to be ordered?? I am hearing it wasn't an option yesterday?
I have a Subaru Sold Order confirmation printout from yesterday afternoon that says otherwise... it's included on the order clear as day. Though I understand it's not hard to install it yourself later on if it comes to that.
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Old 08-16-2012, 02:30 PM   #152
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Agreed. The center armrest extension IS on my vehicle order sheet.

Speaking of vehicle order sheet...got my VON.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:01 PM   #153
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Speaking of vehicle order sheet...got my VON.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could do something with it.

My dealer's great and all, but I'm the type of guy that would log in and check status 8x a day given the opportunity. Seriously who wouldn't, we want our toys NOW and constant updates make it come faster and stuff
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:48 PM   #154
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Ordered (VON Received): 5-23
First ETA: Month of June
Second ETA: Month of July
SoA Cancels Order: 7-29
New Order Placed: 8-2
VIN Received: 8-15
Third ETA (Estimated Arrival): 9-10
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:10 PM   #155
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To all who are considering the 2014. I am not saying it won't be a great car but remember they are talking about this new electric turbo for those models. I am not saying it will be bad BUT it will be brand new technology. It may be better than ever but new tech always has the potential to be problematic. It has been in development for a few years so it may be fine. That being said I am getting a 2013 cuz I know what it will look like and it has proven tech. And by proven I mean tested in a day to day real world environment. Consider your options with your hard earned money!!
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:23 PM   #156
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To all who are considering the 2014. I am not saying it won't be a great car but remember they are talking about this new electric turbo for those models. I am not saying it will be bad BUT it will be brand new technology. It may be better than ever but new tech always has the potential to be problematic. It has been in development for a few years so it may be fine. That being said I am getting a 2013 cuz I know what it will look like and it has proven tech. And by proven I mean tested in a day to day real world environment. Consider your options with your hard earned money!!
Since the 2013 will be the last year to have the current engine and drive train it is the pinnacle of the ej series.
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:35 PM   #157
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I have a Subaru Sold Order confirmation printout from yesterday afternoon that says otherwise... it's included on the order clear as day. Though I understand it's not hard to install it yourself later on if it comes to that.

I was 100% able to add that item to all of the orders I put in as well.
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:23 PM   #158
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Nope, it is a car and not an investment. Nobody can estimate what the depreciation will be on your 2013, it should be better with a WRX but who knows. If gas shoots through the roof and is $6 a gallon, there might not be a big market for sub-30MPG cars. If the 2014 is a mega hit and folks all want the new WRX setup, then yours is out dated and you might take a bigger hit. The opposite, if people hate the new platform, the 2013 model could be well sought after.

My point, your guess will be just about as accurate as anybody elses.

Oh yeah, a car is not an investment. If you think about it like that, you will be disappointed. It is an asset which depreciates, invest in your house, the market, your education, you buy a car.
Hmmm I see...I'm just really regretting paying the extra money for the STi. It just seems empty compared to other cars out there. The bang for your buck comes in at a performance cost. I'd like to have a nice sound system like the Bose I had in my cadillac. The fact that everything is a la carte makes me cringe.

I'm kinda regretting getting even a WRX if worst comes to worst.

Will I enjoy myself you think? I'm not trying to sound superficial but the alcantara seats is really what made me want an STi, besides it's big brembo pack, suspension, DCCD, bigger turbo (?), and 6 speed trans.

I'm second guessing again... I've been car shopping since january lol...

first world problems here lol
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:38 PM   #159
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To everyone that wants or has on order the STS for their new car. SAVE your money!!! I had it added to my 2012 wrx and personally I can't tell the difference. It is as tall as the stock the the throw is like a boat oar. buy the Kartboy/Cobb or any one you would like and if you don't believe me just ask around everyone I know that got the STS is not happy with it.
I can certainly tell the difference. It's the STI I can't tell enough to pay the price for one.

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I don't think there would have been as much of a log jamb if there was no tsunami. Certainly not to the point we have now where I haven't had a 2012 Impreza in stock for sale for almost 6 months (other than 2 base 4door 5-speeds).

No question that they need another plant if they want to reach these lofty sales goals over the next 2-3 years. I just don't see there being this kind of issue with Impreza/WRX/STi if the Tsunami never happens. That was almost a total of 6 months of no production.
They had only stopped production for a little over a month. We don't get many Impreza's either, but we have already doubled our last full year's number, so they are getting them out. Just not enough for demand. That is why I don't think the tsunami did anything but delay.

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Anybody know how long it takes for the "revised eta" to be updated typically? Gives an estimated eta right off the bat but does have a space for a revision in the pipeline report I saw.
If we told you, we'd have to kill you. We(my dealership) can't see any rhyme or reason to when/why/how they update and move vehicles in their distribution. We had a 2011 Forester in the "released" phase for nearly 2 months and then it showed up on the SAME truck as a full load of 2012s. There's just no telling with the Imprezas and Foresters. Now, the Outbacks, Legacys, and Tribecas are a little easier to track. If you order something today and it gives you an ETA of, say, October, don't even think about it till the last week of September.

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Wouldn't it be nice if we could do something with it.

My dealer's great and all, but I'm the type of guy that would log in and check status 8x a day given the opportunity. Seriously who wouldn't, we want our toys NOW and constant updates make it come faster and stuff
I am kinda the same way when it starts getting "close" to the ETA and then when it has a VIN. Otherwise it is just a passing thing if I happen to be in Subarunet.

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To all who are considering the 2014. I am not saying it won't be a great car but remember they are talking about this new electric turbo for those models. I am not saying it will be bad BUT it will be brand new technology. It may be better than ever but new tech always has the potential to be problematic. It has been in development for a few years so it may be fine. That being said I am getting a 2013 cuz I know what it will look like and it has proven tech. And by proven I mean tested in a day to day real world environment. Consider your options with your hard earned money!!
That's what they said about the Lineartronic CVT and that is a bit more critical of a part. Subaru has a rep for reliability. If they are going that route, it will probably be for ALL their turbos at some point. If it's true, they have probably been testing that for the better part of a decade. MY experience with Subaru? I will trust the tech.

I have wondered how long they had worked on the development of the Lineartronic CVT. Also for Eyesight. I have an idea about Eyesight since they had it on the 2005 Alpha Exiga Concept vehicle. That just gives me a basic idea on how long they will work on something to make it reliable before putting it in a production vehicle.
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:54 PM   #160
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Hmmm I see...I'm just really regretting paying the extra money for the STi. It just seems empty compared to other cars out there. The bang for your buck comes in at a performance cost. I'd like to have a nice sound system like the Bose I had in my cadillac. The fact that everything is a la carte makes me cringe.

I'm kinda regretting getting even a WRX if worst comes to worst.

Will I enjoy myself you think? I'm not trying to sound superficial but the alcantara seats is really what made me want an STi, besides it's big brembo pack, suspension, DCCD, bigger turbo (?), and 6 speed trans.

I'm second guessing again... I've been car shopping since january lol...

first world problems here lol
Just get the STI. I sold my '05 back at the end of '07 and have missed it ever since. I traded it on a BMW 335XI which was a big mistake. That car was just plain boring, comfortable, but boring. Then I got a Porsche 996 TT which I absolutely love and will hopefully have forever. That said, I still miss my STI, and will be getting a 2013 STI for winter duty and kid hauling. I'm very excited to get back into an STI - still haven't told the wife!
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They had only stopped production for a little over a month. We don't get many Impreza's either, but we have already doubled our last full year's number, so they are getting them out. Just not enough for demand. That is why I don't think the tsunami did anything but delay.
Sorry broham, not looking to argue but they certainly were not back to full production after a month. A month after the Tsunami there were still rolling power outages, and many of the suppliers of vital components still are not back to full operation from damages.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:45 PM   #162
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Sorry broham, not looking to argue but they certainly were not back to full production after a month. A month after the Tsunami there were still rolling power outages, and many of the suppliers of vital components still are not back to full operation from damages.

Well, sorry.....broham......your statement was NO production. Not limited production; but I am seeing the light and agree a little more with you. I think they are doing wrong now though. We have 55 Foresters in our pipeline and 12 Impreza's. Stop making Foresters and make more Imprezas!!!!!!!!!!! If they reversed those numbers, we'd still sell out of Imprezas before Foresters.
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Well, sorry.....broham......your statement was NO production. Not limited production; but I am seeing the light and agree a little more with you. I think they are doing wrong now though. We have 55 Foresters in our pipeline and 12 Impreza's. Stop making Foresters and make more Imprezas!!!!!!!!!!! If they reversed those numbers, we'd still sell out of Imprezas before Foresters.

You are right my wording was incorrect. (I didn't mean "broham" in a smart ass way either, I just call people that )

From the higher ups I have talked to they are well aware that they need another facility. There is no way they would stop making Foresters or swap the amounts with the Impreza though. They do very well with the Forester line. They just need another factory.

I sell 20+ IMprezas a month, I just cannot get one for stock. We sell off our pipeline as soon as the next allocation is released. The good news is we can actually make a profit on them
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Yeah it sure does suck

Either way I hope you all screen capped or saved those pictures...lol

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Anyone have the sheet with invoice/MSRP pricing for the 13's that they can send to me privately? I saved it, but then deleted it because I figured it was available here. Doh.
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:12 PM   #165
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I sell 20+ IMprezas a month, I just cannot get one for stock. We sell off our pipeline as soon as the next allocation is released. The good news is we can actually make a profit on them

HA!!!! THATS where they are all going!!!!! We are at 37 for the year...
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Anyone have the sheet with invoice/MSRP pricing for the 13's that they can send to me privately? I saved it, but then deleted it because I figured it was available here. Doh.
This guide is very pretty helpful http://www.cars101.com/subaru/wrxsti/wrxsti2013.html
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HA!!!! THATS where they are all going!!!!! We are at 37 for the year...
We are at 126...

Not quite 20/month, my bad...



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Just get the STI. I sold my '05 back at the end of '07 and have missed it ever since. I traded it on a BMW 335XI which was a big mistake. That car was just plain boring, comfortable, but boring. Then I got a Porsche 996 TT which I absolutely love and will hopefully have forever. That said, I still miss my STI, and will be getting a 2013 STI for winter duty and kid hauling. I'm very excited to get back into an STI - still haven't told the wife!
Yeah I feel pretty confident that the car will hold it's value pretty well... That's one of the reasons I'm spending a 7 thousand dollars over my budget.

Anyone else feel this way?
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We are at 126...

Not quite 20/month, my bad...



(couldn't resist sorry)
Yeah, we have been for the past couple years. When they did that big ole re-arranging to the current region/zone/district setup, we pretty much got screwed. We are in TN and they swapped our port from Baltimore to Vancouver. WTF? THEN, they just recently swapped us back and we were in hiatus for about 6 months with our cars taking forever to get to us. Lost a couple dozen deals over that crap. It's getting better though. Still not getting Imprezas like another dealer in our current district though. We outsold them in Imprezas AND WRX/STIs last year. They are over twice the Impreza sales now.

And now with this new sold order/allocation thing, that will hurt us a little.
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There is no way they would stop making Foresters or swap the amounts with the Impreza though. They do very well with the Forester line.

I see now. You sell more Foresters than Outbacks. We sell Outbacks 2 to 1 over the Forester. That is why 55 Foresters is a bit much and we'd like to have Imprezas instead.
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Anyone have the sheet with invoice/MSRP pricing for the 13's that they can send to me privately? I saved it, but then deleted it because I figured it was available here. Doh.
I have a copy of it...
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I have a copy of it...

Please don't post it up...in public
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I see now. You sell more Foresters than Outbacks. We sell Outbacks 2 to 1 over the Forester. That is why 55 Foresters is a bit much and we'd like to have Imprezas instead.

I just meant nationally.

We are almost dead heat between OB/For 162/158 right now.
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And now with this new sold order/allocation thing, that will hurt us a little.

This new thing is gonna SUCK for the first few months. Once they get the details sorted out it will help keep some of the dealers from whoring out the system like they have been doing...
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:49 PM   #175
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This new thing is gonna SUCK for the first few months. Once they get the details sorted out it will help keep some of the dealers from whoring out the system like they have been doing...

It's stupid to me because they were the ones pushing sold orders. They have changed so much for us, we can't hardly get bonuses anymore. Our AOR got soo huge, it's ridiculous. I don't think they fully understand our demographic. Anyway. I'm off topic and ranting. I'll quit. Sorry folks.
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