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Old 08-14-2012, 12:05 AM   #1
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Default Michelin Alpin PA3 Vs Dunlop Sp winter sprt 3d

I'm looking to get a performance winter wheel/tire set from TR this year for the northeast. They'll see a lot of dry interstate pavement but I need a little better grip in the snow than the current allseasons. I drive from Long Island to the backwoods of WV and everything in between.

Has anyone tried the above mentioned tires and can comment on how they performed relative to one another? From what I can tell the 3D's are a little stiffer but worse snow grip relative to the Michelins?
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:38 PM   #2
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I've had Michelin Alpine, Dunlop Sp winter sprt, Yokohama IG20, and the Hankook IPikes, (I used to work at Discount tire). My favorite tires where the Hankook's; I felt I had the most traction in them and second favorite where the Michelin Alpine's they gripped well and lasted a long time. Try and keep the tires skinny.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:28 AM   #3
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Is Michelin Pilot Alpin or Primacy Alpin?
Link to info?

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Old 08-15-2012, 08:33 AM   #4
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:02 AM   #5
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Pilot Alpins are the best dry weather winter tires, if somebody needs something like this.
Primacy Alpins are more like regular performance winters with better balanced dry, wet and snow, ice.

I have experience with Dunlops 3Ds and they are good all around.
PA3 will be similar but with lower rolling resistance.

They both were tested by ADAC in 2009

http://www.adac.de/infotestrat/tests...05_55_R16.aspx

use google to translate.

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Old 08-16-2012, 08:36 PM   #6
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I am very pleased with my Wintersport 3Ds. During the especially mild Winter of 2011/12 I had the opportunity to drive them in 50-60 degree weather for like 15K miles! Despite this, they wore very well. This winter will be their 3rd with approx. 30K miles on them.

They're firm enough to be safe at highway speeds and I had absolutely no problem driving through 1.5 feet of fresh snow on top of packed snow/ice.

The Michelens are also a great tire. You can't go wrong with either. My next set will be Altimax Arctics, though. A friend has them on a TL Type-S and you'd swear he had awd.
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I would expect Altimax Arctics to have worse dry/wet performance than 3Ds.

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Old 08-16-2012, 11:40 PM   #8
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I would expect Altimax Arctics to have worse dry/wet performance than 3Ds.

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Old 08-18-2012, 12:55 AM   #9
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I'll second the guy who said the winter ipikes. I know it wasn't your original choice but of all the winter/all season tires I've run in the new England winters, those are my choice. Price isn't bad either!
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:27 PM   #10
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I may check out the Ipikes as I realized that Tirerack still doesnt offer programmable TPMS sensors, so I will probably buy local.

However, are the Ipikes a performance winter oriented tire or are they a regular studless winter tire? I drive a crapload for work on dry pavement...probably 20,000 mi over the winter.
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Be careful w/ the performance oriented vs regular snow tire. Chances are you drive mostly on dry roads and with AWD, you don't need the absolute bestest traction evar. A good performance-oriented snow tire will do just fine and you won't want to hang yourself when you're running on or off ramps in the dry in the winter. I had a set of Nokian RSIs on my GC OBS, and yeah, the snow handling is dope, but I felt like I was driving on marshmallows.

My friend ran the Pilot Alpin's on his STI and loved them. FWIW. I ran a set of 3Ds on an RX-8 and I thought the grip was not as good as the Pirelli SnowSports I had before. But the handling was pretty good.
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